Hot damn, ninjas! Today officially marks the 20th anniversary of the extremely lyrically dark influential LP ‘Tales from the Lotus Pod’. Insane Clown Posse, Twiztid, Blaze Ya Dead Homie, and Marz literally scared the underground straight to hell and back on Tuesday, July 17th, 2001! And those who attended the 2nd annual Gathering of the Juggalos were able to scare themselves to hell and back, a little earlier. Can you remember where you were precisely when you were first bumping the OG ‘Tales from the Lotus Pod’?! What was going on in your personal life twenty years ago?! Leave your thoughts below! With that being said, Twiztid History and a few of our staff members are sharing their own memories/thoughts in honor of 20 years of Dark Lotus taking over the wicked underground with “Tales from the Lotus Pod”!
Words By: Twiztid History
Rosco:
After The Great Milenko and The Amazing Jeckel Brothers, I didn’t delve too deep into the underground world of Juggalo music. I saw the promo images for Twiztid‘s Mostasteless and they looked sick as fuck but because it wasn’t ICP, I didn’t really check it out. Keep in mind I was only 12 years old at the time and my favorite music to bump was shit like Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, and the Bloodhound Gang.
So although I never gave Twiztid a chance back then, I loved ICP and would check out as much as I could.
It was around that time I saw this image on a message board:
On my next trip to the CD store (yes, they still existed back then) I found it.
It was beautiful.
It was mysterious.
It was black with a shiny red cross on the cover.
It was $34 for some reason.
It was “Tales From The Lotus Pod“!
On the way home, with my Mom driving and me sitting in the back seat with my Discman, I was introduced for the first time to Jamie Madrox, Monoxide Child, and Marz. The introduction talking about the coming of the almighty 6th Joker’s Card gave me mad goosebumps. I immediately fell in love with it. When Ali Baba hit my eardrums I was in shock. I literally couldn’t believe I had been putting off checking out anything in the Juggalo underground besides ICP. They had mad talent on their roster and I was fucking sleeping on it!
Needless to say, the Joker’s Cards made me fall in love with ICP. The Lotus made me fall in love with the family.
The main thing I took away from my experience with Dark Lotus is exactly what they say on the CD. It’s not hidden in the lyrics. It’s right there on the second last track:
Say what you will of me. I’ll always have Juggalo family.
Chad Thomas Carsten:
I honestly first heard “Tales from the Lotus Pod” in the winter of 2007. But holy shit did the album shake my musical soul to its very core! I was only 18 years old living with my Grand Parents at the time in Northern Michigan, right in the woods. I had bumped all of ICP’s Joker’s Cards, Blaze Ya Dead Homies, Twiztid’s releases that were available at the time. I was deeply craving for more wicked underground hip-hop flavor. So I finally decided to bump the original “Tales from the Lotus Pod” during the midnight hours, in a pitch-black room located in the basement of my Grand Parents home, while sporting Dollar Store headphones. I grinned evilly the entire time in complete astonishment towards the lyrically awesome wickedness my eardrums were hearing from Dark Lotus for the very first time. When “Black Crows” hit my dome I started to feel a strange paranormal-like presence near me. Like someone/something was in the room with me as I was laying in bed by myself. It gave me the chills across my body. Oddly enough, shortly after that feeling, the power went out for about 15 minutes or so. And that’s when I decided to get the hell outta the basement and sleep in the living room the rest of the night. I ended up bumping the entirety of “Tales from the Lotus Pod” the next day when the sun was shining, as I was a little shook. *Laughs* Fast forward to the Gathering of the Juggalos 2016 at Legend Valley. I was finally able to see Dark Lotus (first and only time) live around the 3/4 a.m. hours, shortly after interviewing Alla Xul Elu. And, wow! My jaw kept dropping in complete bewilderment towards their epic set! The beyond-packed Juggalo crowd roared in positivity the entire set! Definitely in my top 5 live shows. Wish I could travel back in time to that same exact Dark Lotus set. True story!
Faygoluvers Comments
Tcraze340
Comment posted on Saturday, July 17th, 2021 11:19 am GMT -5 at 11:19 am
I actually like the version with ABK better
The Warlock
Comment posted on Saturday, July 17th, 2021 12:25 pm GMT -5 at 12:25 pm
My 7th grade school year had just started in the Fall of 2001.. Me & my dad drove to Idaho for my older brothers wrestling tournament.. while we had some time to kill, we drove to the mall in Spokane, WA.. ICP & twiztid were always in the rap section of cd stores but I found Dark Lotus in the metal section.. as soon as I saw it, the line from “the shaggy show” played in my head, so I bought it.. the album blew me away, I was a rock fan at the time & loved the dark gothic image of nu metal bands but the Lotus album was much more darker & really helped stir me into the direction of more rap music..
wicket_juan
Comment posted on Saturday, July 17th, 2021 03:34 pm GMT -5 at 3:34 pm
The Good Ol’ Daze! 🤘🤡🤘
Noawareness
Comment posted on Saturday, July 17th, 2021 04:08 pm GMT -5 at 4:08 pm
Now I feel old as shit.
Hypnotic
Comment posted on Saturday, July 17th, 2021 04:08 pm GMT -5 at 4:08 pm
Damn, has it really been that long? 2001 was the first time I heard about ICP and then, later on that same year, Twiztid. I was 18 years old and going through a rough time and being, as they say, young, dumb, and full of…..raging emotions. Anyway, I picked up Dark Lotus at a Dimples Records store in the Sacramento area and loved how dark the sound was. I still have that now scratched up old CD and its revised version. 2001 also marked the year I was introduced to Faygoluvers by an old friend. I think this site was named Faygoluvers Heaven, or something like that, at the time. Remember the TMNT VHS when I thought he said “Faygo” but you looked up the script and he actually said bagels, Scottie? lol, good times. Anyway, wish y’all are doing well out there and MCL
Mr. Fucker
Comment posted on Sunday, July 18th, 2021 02:57 am GMT -5 at 2:57 am
When I first heard this album, I was so impressed by how dark it sounded w out trying to be “satanic” or some shit like that. This really was an instant classic. Marz stole the show w out a doubt, his verses were the most grim and brutal over all. Then they “revised” it w ABK, what a mistake that was. The abk version was and always will be trash. His verses don’t even sound like they fit in the songs that he’s on, it was a disaster lol Idk if it’s abk himself or what but black rain was the weakest lotus album too. Opaque and mud air blood n water were dope af tho. No ABK on em either except for a guest spot. Can’t be a coincidence lol but yeah this album (the original marz version the only one that counts lol) will always be amazing
Noawareness
Comment posted on Sunday, July 18th, 2021 04:34 am GMT -5 at 4:34 am
I like black rain a lot but it doesn’t feel like a lotus album. I think it has some of Shaggy’s worst verses and delivery but I guess it was the peak of his alcoholic period so that will probably explain it.
Mr. Fucker
Comment posted on Sunday, July 18th, 2021 12:19 pm GMT -5 at 12:19 pm
Yeah I don’t dislike black rain, but as far as a lotus album goes it just wasn’t there to me. It sounded like an album w everybody on it but everybody wasn’t in the lotus mind set. And yeah shaggy was fuckin terrible on black rain. J n twz fr fr carried black rain, everybody else were pretty mediocre imo. On the black rain tour my city got canceled along w some others bc somebody was “sick” coulda been shit w shaggy. I remember being pissed not being able to go that bc, even tho that was the 2nd lotus album in a few yrs, it wasn’t like they went on tour all the time as lotus, so yeah black rain just wasn’t the best of times all around lol
purplekushy
Comment posted on Sunday, July 18th, 2021 04:57 am GMT -5 at 4:57 am
This OG version is in my top 10 all time, in no particular order
Wu Tang 36 chambers
Icp Riddle Box
Twiztid Mostasteless
Dark Lotus Tales from the Pod
Smiff n Wessun Da Shinin
Nas Illmatic
Raekwon Cuban Links
Biggie Ready to Die
Tupac All eyez on me
The Game Documentary
Honourable mentions
Eminem slim shady lp
Dr Dre The Chronic and 2001
Snoop Doggy Style
Red Man Dare iz a darkside
Tcraze340
Comment posted on Sunday, July 18th, 2021 07:37 am GMT -5 at 7:37 am
My top 10 is
Makaveli the 7 day theory
Jay z the blueprint
Icp riddlebox
Dmx its dark and hell is hot
Dr.dre 2001
Kurupt tha streetz are amother..
Twiztid-Abominationz
Eminem the eminem show
Esham kkkill the fetus
Big Pun Capital punishment
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