Slumerican502 said
I don’t “winning” is quite the word for it…And who in the holy fuck is messy marv?

Messy Marv

Marvin Watson Jr. (born March 19, 1976),^[1] better known by his stage name Messy Marv, is an American rapper who grew up in the Fillmore district of San Francisco, California. He is the cousin of San Quinn, Stevie Johnson, and Ya Boy.^[2][3]

Recent career

On November 2, 2007, Messy Marv was released from jail after serving twelve months on weapons charges.^[4] In the spring of 2012, Messy Marv released the hit mixtape, Da Frank Lucas Dat Neva Wore Da Mink Coat and released the hit single, “You Gotta Pay Me”. In 2013, he announced the release of his newest LP “Playboy Gangsta” under his new moniker LilPaperdupMess, and released 3 singles as promotionals for the album: “We Killas”, “Beautiful Kalifornia”, & “A Girlfriend Ain’t What I Need”. Marv confirmed via Twitter a release date of July 23, 2013 for the LP.

Controversy

Obie Trice

In 2005, he was in a feud with G-Unit, which escalated when Obie Trice, a member of Shady Records, went to the radio station KMEL and said, “in San Francisco I have to cover my a**.” A diss track was released by Guce and Messy Marv, “50 Explanations”, on the album Pill Music: The Rico Act, Vol. 1. 50 Cent and Sha Money XL then exchanged words over the phone with Guce’s camp. He afterwards said, “it’s over with, and it never kicked off”.^[5]

San Quinn

Messy Marv started a feud with his cousin San Quinn on September 22, 2008, by calling the latter a “snitch”.^[6] On December 11, Quinn told HipHopDX that he “loves” Messy Marv despite the diss tracks that they have both sent to each other.^[7] In a 2010 interview with WordofSouth, he stated the reason for the beef was because he was “talking too much”, but that they are attempting to squash the feud.^[8]

Too Short

On August 3, 2011, Watson Jr. started a beef with rapper Too Short on Twitter.^[9] According to HipHipDX, Messy Marv was apparently calling the latter’s support of peers into question, while Short offered to meet face-to-face to discuss the matter in private.^[10] It is unclear how the beef started, but one way it possibly started was when Too Short was featured on a song by 40 Glocc called ‘Welcome to California”, where he reportedly said that the Bay Area was not a place for Crips and Bloods. “I guess he took that [to mean] I was talking about him. I don’t know [what he thought]. It went way over my head. One of my Frisco homies told me the other day he was mad at me over the 40 Glocc song,” said the rap legend, as Marv is affiliated with a Piru Blood gang. Another cause for the beef might have been, states the report, that Marv and other area emcees may wrongfully recall being threatened if they did not align with Short’s Up All Nite imprint in 2007.

Spider Loc

On April 19, 2007, rapper Spider Loc released a diss track at Marv, E-40 and Game called “Ova Killa” featuring Papa Smurf.^[11]

Click Clack Gang

He is involved in a feud with the Click Clack Gang, a label which Marv himself started, because they were “utilizing the hard work and the blood and the sweat and the tears that I done put in to this machine that I’m running right now, and try to use that to sell records.” “There ain’t no Click Clack Gang if I don’t say there’s a Click Clack Gang. And the n****s that are saying they’re them ain’t The Click Clack Gang because I own that.”, he told WordofSouth.

Mistah F.A.B.

In 2009, Messy Marv mocked rapper Mistah F.A.B.’s chain getting stolen repeatedly.^[12] This led to diss tracks being sent between the rappers, including F.A.B. sending one entitled “Okay” where he impersonates Watson Jr.[1