Maaaan.....Messy Marv has been played out for years. Gets no respect from anyone in the Bay these days and is so lazy and half-assed in the music he makes. I hate the way some indie gangsta rap has gone recently; saturate the market with alarmingly frequent releases of increasingly dubious quality to make as much money as possible. Artists like The Jacka used to put out consistent dope but everything he has released recently has been weak.