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9:01 pm
September 18, 2012
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I'm sorry but I just have to say something about this because It's been really irritating me lately.
Let me grab my tampon, it's time for a Lucem Ferre bitch fest.
There are a bunch of rappers out there that say stupid shit like “I'm a juggalo who raps but I'm not a juggalo rapper, juggalo rappers suck” and it fucking irritates me. If you are a juggalo that raps then you are a juggalo rapper, especially if you are going to rep the hatchet and paint your face like a fucking clown. If you are sporting a hatchet man chain or hatchet gear in your music video then you are a juggalo rapper. Then you have rappers that sit there and make songs that diss 'generic horrorcore rappers' on a horrorcore album (I'm sorry Warlock but I have to call you out on that) Saying stupid shit like “I don't do horrorcore I do wicked shit I don't do wicked shit, I do murder rap, I don't do murder rap I do gore hop, I don't do gore hop I do sick hop, I don't do sick hop I do satanic rap, I don't do satanic rap I do devil shit, I don't do devil shit I do occult rap, I don't do occult rap I do gothic rap, I don't do gothic rap I do dark hip hop, I don't do dark hip hop I do shock rap, I don't do shock rap I do blah blah blah”. Creating thousands of different names for the same genre. What is the difference between wicked shit and horrorcore? What is the difference between satanic rap and devil shit? Absolutely not a damn fucking that other than rappers have a holier than thou attitude and, even though they do horrorcore, they are better than horrorcore artists so now they have to create a new genre to show that they are better and so much more different than other artists. Fuck it, I know I do horrorcore but I'm so much more different and so much better than my counterparts that I'm putting my own music under it's own genre; shitcore. Yup, I'm a shitcore artist. Fuck horrorcore, it's all about my shitcore. Oh, what do I do that makes me so much more different and so much better than horrorcore artists? Oh I do shitcore, that makes me better. The name of my genre is different so I am far better. If you are so much better than other artists in what ever genre you are in you don't have to announce it and you don't have to create a new name for what you do. Oh, and don't be so quick to tag yourself with such names anyways because many artists don't fit under one genre. I am a musician, that is for sure so that is what I will call myself. If you want to call me horrorcore or wicked shit or juggalo rap go ahead because I technically fit under those categories and I honestly don't give a fuck because those tags don't affect my music.
Ahh I'm finally done bleeding out of my vagina.
Now go out and support Lucem Ferre and his shitcore music that is sooooo much better than the generic sound of horrorcore.
Whoop Whoop King Lucem Ferre :
Nyro 
9:14 pm
March 31, 2012
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Lucem Ferre said:
I'm sorry but I just have to say something about this because It's been really irritating me lately.
Let me grab my tampon, it's time for a Lucem Ferre bitch fest.
There are a bunch of rappers out there that say stupid shit like “I'm a juggalo who raps but I'm not a juggalo rapper, juggalo rappers suck” and it fucking irritates me. If you are a juggalo that raps then you are a juggalo rapper, especially if you are going to rep the hatchet and paint your face like a fucking clown. If you are sporting a hatchet man chain or hatchet gear in your music video then you are a juggalo rapper. Then you have rappers that sit there and make songs that diss 'generic horrorcore rappers' on a horrorcore album (I'm sorry Warlock but I have to call you out on that) Saying stupid shit like “I don't do horrorcore I do wicked shit I don't do wicked shit, I do murder rap, I don't do murder rap I do gore hop, I don't do gore hop I do sick hop, I don't do sick hop I do satanic rap, I don't do satanic rap I do devil shit, I don't do devil shit I do occult rap, I don't do occult rap I do gothic rap, I don't do gothic rap I do dark hip hop, I don't do dark hip hop I do shock rap, I don't do shock rap I do blah blah blah”.
lol its cool i already explained to you what a generic horrorcore “rapper” is in my opinion & yes its a horrocore album. some kid on the rapmusic forum broke it down perfectly he said “when horrorcore is done wrong (that typical generic shit) it's some of the wackest shit in all of hip hop however when its done right it's some of the dopest (originality/lyricism)” & on that song i even say “Wicked shit death rap whatever you wanna name it, I act like it's not but it's really all the same shit” so obviously i agree with your latter statement it doesnt matter what someones tries to label it its all the same sub-genre of hip hop
9:17 pm
March 31, 2012
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HA and no to the last line.
9:19 pm
March 31, 2012
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Lucem Ferre said:
If you are a juggalo that raps then you are a juggalo rapper, especially if you are going to rep the hatchet and paint your face like a fucking clown. If you are sporting a hatchet man chain or hatchet gear in your music video then you are a juggalo rapper.
essentially yes BUT there's juggalos who rap that dont paint there face or rep the hatchetman soo theyre not exactly a “juggalo rapper” they have their own entity king gordy, psycho jesus & even myself are perfect example of this
9:57 pm
September 18, 2012
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What makes one non generic? I can say that a lot of artists I like could fit under 'generic' horrorcore but they have certain attributes that make them different. Or, if I like an artist and there is another artist that sounds like said artist I will probably like both artists.
I don't know if you are familiar with Industrial/EBM music but Agonoize and Suicide Commando both sound extremely similar. They both are technically generic Industrial/EBM music. Goth dudes making electronic music with a death scream/whisper usually wearing a black dress shirt with a red tie. Musical topics involve mutilation, suicide, depressing dark shit. I like that shit though, and they do it well.
SickTanicK, people like to name him as generic horrorcore. He strains his voice and raps about murder, rape, and blasphemy yet he does it well. He doesn't suck and honestly, even though he is generic horrorcore, he does something that nobody else does; he actually raps with an actual meaning hidden in it. If you know about occultism or Thelema you'd notice these ideas being presented in his music. People tag him as generic horrorcore and claim that he sucks for sounding exactly the same as every other horrorcore rapper. Honestly though, he has made EBM music and I have never heard a rapper do EBM music.
Mars, he's tagged as generic horrorcore when in all honesty he is one of the most unique artists in horrorcore. He strains his voice but his voice is so unique sounding that it automatically makes him different from every other artist. His music just has this sound, like the beat selection, that nobody else really has. I'm not that big of a fan of Mars, He as a few bomb ass songs and the songs off of his newest album kind of show this really huge improvement in his music but other than that his music just sucked. The only reason to listen to him is to laugh.
Two rappers that both fit under generic horrorcore but one of them is waaayyy better than the other. SickTanicK kills Mars any day. He still fits the tag of 'generic' horrorcore though. I mean, if an artist sucks it's just because they suck, not because they are too generic. It's just that, what makes a horrorcore rapper generic and what is it that you do that makes you so much better. Or that one dude from Dark Half, I don't know his name, but he strains his voice and raps about the generic horrorcore shit. Frozen Body Boy strains his voice and raps about the generic horrorcore shit. What's the difference? The way the dude from Dark Half strains his voice works for him. The actual lyrics he uses, even though has the same topic, is done far better than Frozen Body Boy's. Frozen Body Boy has a shitty flow, uses basic predictable rhymes and his voice just sounds awful.
I mean, If you are not a fan of that sound then of course it's all the same shit and it's all going to suck. That's why reviewers shouldn't listen to genres they don't like.
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Nyro
10:15 pm
March 31, 2012
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Lucem Ferre said:
What makes one non generic? I can say that a lot of artists I like could fit under 'generic' horrorcore but they have certain attributes that make them different. Or, if I like an artist and there is another artist that sounds like said artist I will probably like both artists.
im sure everyone has their own or can make their own definition of what generic horrorcore is.. i pretty much broke it all down in my song.. zero flow just talkin with that strained voice, exact same subject matter & even often times lyrics being said
I don't know if you are familiar with Industrial/EBM music but Agonoize and Suicide Commando both sound extremely similar. They both are technically generic Industrial/EBM music. Goth dudes making electronic music with a death scream/whisper usually wearing a black dress shirt with a red tie. Musical topics involve mutilation, suicide, depressing dark shit. I like that shit though, and they do it well.
cool…
SickTanicK, people like to name him as generic horrorcore. He strains his voice and raps about murder, rape, and blasphemy yet he does it well. He doesn't suck and honestly, even though he is generic horrorcore, he does something that nobody else does; he actually raps with an actual meaning hidden in it. If you know about occultism or Thelema you'd notice these ideas being presented in his music. People tag him as generic horrorcore and claim that he sucks for sounding exactly the same as every other horrorcore rapper. Honestly though, he has made EBM music and I have never heard a rapper do EBM music.
cool.. anyone who strains their voice like that is generic in my eyes.. & dont icp have hidden meaning in their shit??
Mars, he's tagged as generic horrorcore when in all honesty he is one of the most unique artists in horrorcore. He strains his voice but his voice is so unique sounding that it automatically makes him different from every other artist. His music just has this sound, like the beat selection, that nobody else really has. I'm not that big of a fan of Mars, He as a few bomb ass songs and the songs off of his newest album kind of show this really huge improvement in his music but other than that his music just sucked. The only reason to listen to him is to laugh.
i dont listen to him but im sure i couldnt stand his shit
Two rappers that both fit under generic horrorcore but one of them is waaayyy better than the other. SickTanicK kills Mars any day. He still fits the tag of 'generic' horrorcore though. I mean, if an artist sucks it's just because they suck, not because they are too generic. It's just that, what makes a horrorcore rapper generic and what is it that you do that makes you so much better. Or that one dude from Dark Half, I don't know his name, but he strains his voice and raps about the generic horrorcore shit. Frozen Body Boy strains his voice and raps about the generic horrorcore shit. What's the difference? The way the dude from Dark Half strains his voice works for him. The actual lyrics he uses, even though has the same topic, is done far better than Frozen Body Boy's. Frozen Body Boy has a shitty flow, uses basic predictable rhymes and his voice just sounds awful.
I mean, If you are not a fan of that sound then of course it's all the same shit and it's all going to suck. That's why reviewers shouldn't listen to genres they don't like.
the bolded is pretty much how i feel & im a juggalo so i like the wicked shit. thousands of rappers who all sound the same is just hella lame tho & personally i feel being generic in itself is wack haha i think hopsins wack.. sure i can see he has some skill but he sounds too much like a slim shady clone for me to not fuck with him
what is it that you do that makes you so much better.
ive never heard anyone who sounds like me im sure theres someone in the world who does but we've never crossed paths & as far as ive heard (which is everyone makin some noise) there's no one who's as lyrical as me in my state.. no i dont feel like im the best ever im my own worst critic so i can see & know my flaws i dont act like im the best but i know what im capable of.. & after rapping & studying it for 10 yrs now ive grown a certain set of standards.. i know it isnt the 80s anymore but unoriginality is something i still heavily look down upon
10:44 pm
September 18, 2012
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You say that anybody that strains their voice is generic but how many people out there don't do that? How many people out there rap with the same type of flow and the same type of delivery. Yes, you do have a unique sound but there are sooooo many other artists out there that you like that sound almost exactly the same as other artists.
ICP counted as generic horrorcore? I mean, I was comparing SickTanicK to generic horrorcore and SickTanicK's deeper message is completely different from ICP's. Tons of artists have a deeper message. SickTanicK is the first artist I've ever heard who preached about Thelema, Aliester Crowley and secular humanism.
How do you know anything for sure if you don't listen for yourself? Do you always let other people's descriptions and opinions influence your own?
Being generic is just wack but what is it that you actually rap about that makes you different? You're voice is completely unique but what makes you non generic from anything? Every artist is generic in some way.
I listened to only 4 songs of Hopsin's and he's NOTHING like Eminem. Maybe his voice sounds similar and maybe you know that Hopsin looks up to Eminem but he is NOTHING like Eminem. Eminem raps so much about doing drugs and that shit but Hopsin actually raps against that shit. Ill mind of hipsin 5 or what ever it is. Never EVER heard a rapper actually point any of that out in a song. Eminem is much darker than Hopsin as well. Nocturnal Rainbows, never heard a song similar to it. Pillow Man, like, do you even listen or do you just go off of what people tell you?
Your voice is incredibly unique which is why I see great possibilities. I've seen the people talk shit on the forums but honestly I think your voice is fucking fresh. Nothing like it, and it isn't so different that it's just weird. Great lyricist too, could possibly be the best out of your state but I wouldn't be too sure if I were you. I used to think I was the best lyricist out of my state until I met this artist named I.V. that dude is completely crazy. Having a different sounding voice and being a great lyricist doesn't mean that you are not generic though. Bob E. Nite, most unique voice out of horrorcore. He doesn't strain his voice yet he's still extremely generic.
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11:06 pm
September 18, 2012
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That also reminds me, way back you wanted a hook up on beats because I said I'd give them out for free only if you make some absolutely great shit. I could offer you one beat, you record it on a good mic, make sure there are no distortions, no issues with the volume changing, make sure you provide perfection in the delivery, every word is heard well and send me the vocals. I'm pretty confident that your verses would be fresh but I don't think I've heard a hook or chorus by you. Make sure that it's really good as well. Remember, just send me the acapella version after you recorded your verses and I will mix and master it.
Are you down?
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Nyro
11:24 pm
March 31, 2012
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Lucem Ferre said:
You say that anybody that strains their voice is generic but how many people out there don’t do that? How many people out there rap with the same type of flow and the same type of delivery. Yes, you do have a unique sound but there are sooooo many other artists out there that you like that sound almost exactly the same as other artists.
looool yes there is people with similar deliveries but i guess theyre slightly unique enough for me not to notice haha i prefer emcees with deep voices but i cant think of any who sound identical & also as far as horrorcore is concerned there's not enough people who dont strain their voice haha
ICP counted as generic horrorcore? I mean, I was comparing SickTanicK to generic horrorcore and SickTanicK’s deeper message is completely different from ICP’s. Tons of artists have a deeper message. SickTanicK is the first artist I’ve ever heard who preached about Thelema, Aliester Crowley and secular humanism.
nah they arent.. & i dont know what any of that shit is
How do you know anything for sure if you don’t listen for yourself? Do you always let other people’s descriptions and opinions influence your own?
& whats this referring to?? if mars, yes i heard his song on tunnel runners & maybe an extra track or 2 as well & thought it was wack & no i dont let it influence my opinion.. i have to have listened to something 1st to stand by an opinion.. but i can easily take a description & form an opinion like everyone has the right to.. right?
Being generic is just wack but what is it that you actually rap about that makes you different? You’re voice is completely unique but what makes you non generic from anything? Every artist is generic in some way.
lol sure in a sense. i rap about everything.. there’s literally zero subjects i wont speak on too name a few ive done.. gangsta, wicked, video games, boxing, wrestling, tropical environments, snowy environments, inspiration, depression, hip hop culture, love, weed, alcohol, cars & clothes, politics etc
I listened to only 4 songs of Hopsin’s and he’s NOTHING like Eminem. Maybe his voice sounds similar and maybe you know that Hopsin looks up to Eminem but he is NOTHING like Eminem. Eminem raps so much about doing drugs and that shit but Hopsin actually raps against that shit. Ill mind of hipsin 5 or what ever it is. Never EVER heard a rapper actually point any of that out in a song. Eminem is much darker than Hopsin as well. Nocturnal Rainbows, never heard a song similar to it. Pillow Man, like, do you even listen or do you just go off of what people tell you?
lol really??? fuck off yo haha the mind of ill hopsin 4 is just like late 90s slim shady i can just picture em’s nasally voice over every line in that shit.. i guess its just subject matter & the way its written.. & people are prolly sayin that cuz to every emcee its obvious haha
Your voice is incredibly unique which is why I see great possibilities. I’ve seen the people talk shit on the forums but honestly I think your voice is fucking fresh. Nothing like it, and it isn’t so different that it’s just weird. Great lyricist too, could possibly be the best out of your state but I wouldn’t be too sure if I were you. I used to think I was the best lyricist out of my state until I met this artist named I.V. that dude is completely crazy. Having a different sounding voice and being a great lyricist doesn’t mean that you are not generic though. Bob E. Nite, most unique voice out of horrorcore. He doesn’t strain his voice yet he’s still extremely generic.
haha thanks & yeah just like theres always someone who’s stronger i feel theres always someone who’s doper which is why i said “as far as ive heard” & yeah man like i said what’s generic is up to opinion.. most people here do either chicano gangsta rap or hardcore nut-riding juggalo shit.. i think as far as NM is concerned im def unique.. i classify what i do as hip hop cuz there isnt a subgenre im not willing to delve into
11:26 pm
March 31, 2012
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Lucem Ferre said:
That also reminds me, way back you wanted a hook up on beats because I said I’d give them out for free only if you make some absolutely great shit. I could offer you one beat, you record it on a good mic, make sure there are no distortions, no issues with the volume changing, make sure you provide perfection in the delivery, every word is heard well and send me the vocals. I’m pretty confident that your verses would be fresh but I don’t think I’ve heard a hook or chorus by you. Make sure that it’s really good as well. Remember, just send me the acapella version after you recorded your verses and I will mix and master it.
Are you down?
haha yeah im down i use a NT1-A.. do you use pro tools?? cuz i could just lay down a bunch of vox & send the entire session for you to tweak around
11:51 pm
September 18, 2012
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No I don't use protools, just send each track as mp3s as you consolidate them and I'll mix it.
How can you say Ill mind of Hopsin 5 is just like late 90s Eminem? In the late 90s Eminem was rapping about being a drug addict and how many pills he swallows. That completely contradicts what Hopsin is rapping about. I mean, Eminem is infamous for his Slim Shady drug addict persona.Hopsin strongly dislikes that life style. I honestly find it weird that Hopsin looks up to Eminem so closely because of how completely opposing Hopsin's lyrics are compared to Eminem's lyrics. I guess Sag My Pants could be a bit like Eminem but still. People compare artists to other artists waaayyyy to much now days.
When it comes to my music I just make what I feel, all of my emotions go into my music. I don't care about being different or being generic or what ever, I make music to reflect my emotions and I make music to sound how I like it to sound. I personally love my own music when It's perfected to how I want it to be (not every song I've done is perfected yet). My music is me, I guess that's what I can say I rap about is me and the world around me.
But, yeah, If you're down I'll try to upload an instrumental tomorrow.
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12:08 am
March 31, 2012
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Lucem Ferre said:
No I don’t use protools, just send each track as mp3s as you consolidate them and I’ll mix it.
How can you say Ill mind of Hopsin 5 is just like late 90s Eminem? In the late 90s Eminem was rapping about being a drug addict and how many pills he swallows. That completely contradicts what Hopsin is rapping about. I mean, Eminem is infamous for his Slim Shady drug addict persona.Hopsin strongly dislikes that life style. I honestly find it weird that Hopsin looks up to Eminem so closely because of how completely opposing Hopsin’s lyrics are compared to Eminem’s lyrics. I guess Sag My Pants could be a bit like Eminem but still. People compare artists to other artists waaayyyy to much now days.
i said Ill mind of Hopsin 4… go listen to that then listen to eminems “evil freesyles” & “still dont give a fuck” or maybe listen to em first.. & also since i forget to mention this about mind of ill hopsin 5 dudes rappin about how rappers are bad influences yet in 4 he wore a skirt & rapped about killin people haha
When it comes to my music I just make what I feel, all of my emotions go into my music. I don’t care about being different or being generic or what ever, I make music to reflect my emotions and I make music to sound how I like it to sound. I personally love my own music when It’s perfected to how I want it to be (not every song I’ve done is perfected yet). My music is me, I guess that’s what I can say I rap about is me and the world around me.
But, yeah, If you’re down I’ll try to upload an instrumental tomorrow.
yeah im down but yeah i feel ya i rap what i feel as well however i also like to storytell
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