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June 5, 2012
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Just wanted to say my thoughts on Esham because I've read a lot of threads concerning him lately. I'll start by saying this, Esham is still pretty fuckin fresh. I've heard many stories about him being dicks to fans and not showing up to his shows, but lyrically the guy can still spit fire. I know everyone has albums they like more than others, but if you look at his recent DMT Sessions and say it was whack IMO you don't know good hip hop. The guy can still flow.

On the topic of PSY who he has beef with IDK if it'll ever be squashed. I don't know any of the artists personally, but I do feel Esham is the one keeping it from getting squashed. I can sort of see where he is coming from, he created the shit and ICP and Twiztid just ran with it and made the wicked shit much bigger than Esham could ever dream about. That's gotta way on Esham's mind all the time, it's only natural. However, I do feel if there never was beef and Esham was still on PSY he would have been made a Don by now like Twiztid, Billy Bill, and MEC were. 

Only time will tell in what will happen. Until then, order Esham's merch only through amazon not acidrap.com. If you still like his music then support him beef aside. 

Two Whoops

June 5, 2012
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Carnivalkilla44 said:

 if you look at his recent DMT Sessions and say it was whack IMO you don't know good hip hop. The guy can still flow.

 

COSIGN!!!! to the fullest yo i couldnt agree more! Ive BEEN sayin that shit!

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June 5, 2012
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Its always been like this. Over the years, Esham & Psychopathic have gotten in to it suviral times. Violent J even talked about it in Behind The Paint. It seems like one year Psychopathic & Esham are getting alon, chillin, making music together, tour. Then the next year, thier not getting along for whatever reason & diss each other. Im the same why, I dont know these guys personally, I dont know whos in the right & whos in the wrong I am not taking sides. Esham still shows juggalo love & he help make the juggalo culture what it is today. Esham is one of my all time fav artists. I really hope & wish that this shit does eventually get squashed, hopefully sooner then later. Esham & Psychopathic make some really good music together, even if hes not signed to Psychopathic, the still make great music together.

June 5, 2012
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DMT Sessions had a few alright songs but overall Esham has fallen off IMO...when it comes down to him stealing other peoples album artwork, not showing up for shows, being a dick to fans (he actually went off on an emotional tirade towards me on youtube because I dared to say that accusing J of being a pedophile and him raping Twiztid sounded a lil farfetched...he was even in XXL magazine accusing Eminem and Royce of stealing his ideas on their "Bad Meets Evil" record...huh?!?!?!...listen to that album and ANYTHING Esham has ever done and tell me where exactly they ripped him off...dude's bitter at the end of the day and it's a shame because with a clear head and some positive energy (as well as getting off the drugs/alcohol) in his life maybe he wouldn't be stuck in such a hole and would focus on just making great sounding music instead of bringing up beefs from almost 10 years ago to keep his name around

June 5, 2012
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uhh they bite the wicked shit i didnt hear that cd but i know there was wicked shit on the bad meets evil song from the slim shady lp

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June 5, 2012
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don't get it fucked up though...Closed Casket, Dead Flowers, KKKill the Fetus, Tongues, Repentance...all favorites of mine...not just trying to be a hater with what I said above it's just my personal opinion on the matter

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Esham was an inspiration to ICP and Em and all them guys. I like his music. I think his latest album releases, Sacrificial Lambs to the present, weren't as good both production and lyrical wise. Anything Tongues and before that were all good albums. Still have my OG Closed Casket, got all my other RLP CD's stolen a few years ago.

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i strongly disagree with the "lyrical"-wise e's pen game has stepped up since his psy days & the shit before it dont get me wrongs hes always had some hot shit ever since boomin but hes stepped his shit up in the recent years i mean look at MDMA he wasnt spittin like that on yola

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Ya i feel to his pen game stepped up a notch over the past years. I can see why a lot of ninjas don't like his new stuff though because he sounds nothing like he sounded in early 2000's and before. I personally like his sound better since Yola. Not as whiny of a voice IMO. More stoned out if you will.

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idk about whiny haha but yeah its much more chill now & i dig the new direction its like hes on that innovative hip hop tip now instead of that ol wicked shit for lack of a better term lol

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for my part, the old shit is where its at.  eshams new shit sounds like he threw it together quick. 

its interesting, but thats not the same as great.

still better than listening to the radio, though. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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yo i emailed you back that track yo

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You know what i'm going to say Fuck Escam.

June 6, 2012
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yeah i already knew but sucka please, sucka fat dick!  haha

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Slow your thought process down while I rape you I want it to come back to you later on in life. Lol bitch ass

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lol

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Carnivalkilla44 said:

Just wanted to say my thoughts on Esham because I've read a lot of threads concerning him lately. I'll start by saying this, Esham is still pretty fuckin fresh. I've heard many stories about him being dicks to fans and not showing up to his shows, but lyrically the guy can still spit fire. I know everyone has albums they like more than others, but if you look at his recent DMT Sessions and say it was whack IMO you don't know good hip hop. The guy can still flow.

On the topic of PSY who he has beef with IDK if it'll ever be squashed. I don't know any of the artists personally, but I do feel Esham is the one keeping it from getting squashed. I can sort of see where he is coming from, he created the shit and ICP and Twiztid just ran with it and made the wicked shit much bigger than Esham could ever dream about. That's gotta way on Esham's mind all the time, it's only natural. However, I do feel if there never was beef and Esham was still on PSY he would have been made a Don by now like Twiztid, Billy Bill, and MEC were. 

Only time will tell in what will happen. Until then, order Esham's merch only through amazon not acidrap.com. If you still like his music then support him beef aside. 

Two Whoops

 

DMT sessions was a good record. i still have yet to buy it. and when it comes to Esham possibly being a don, psychopathic actually gave esham the opportunity to be a don when he first signed to the label. i remember J talking about it in a murder dog interview back when the Wraith(Shangi-la) came out. its the magazine where there on the front page dressed like Run DMC. if someone has a link to that interview POST THAT SHIT CUZ

 

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Esham's dope hoe, just dont buy his shit from acidrap.com/helluvastore.com confused

June 6, 2012
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I never got ripped off by him I was pre warned bout the hellava store just bizarre from d12 has ripped me off as far as online purchases ive made.

June 7, 2012
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ripped me off a while ago, so now i sell his bootlegged cd's at GOTJ.  look for the dude in the ape suit on the mini bike.   but natas and old esham are what made me the person i am today.  nothing is better.  i havent liked anything from E since he signed to psychopathic.

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that sucks. open up your mind man

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