Yeah i agree, but thats because Psy does hiphop, but its a carnival way. 

i dislike socal n subnoise only ones sound decent on there is potluck hell its just all about weed wit kmk

supporting me? lol i didnt say it was "more hip hop" its just in this day & age allot of the OGs are overlooked & under-appreciated so i feel a festival which brings out allot of vets is a great way to show love.. & psychopathic puts out more Rap/Hip-hop records than subnoize so i dont see your point... im sure iLL was referring to underground cats

lol yeah im well aware of the culture.. & i dont follow subnoize so i figured iLL was just talkin about the music aspect.. what does subnoize do for hip hop outside of rap??

I think Subnoize has more groups people can like easier than Psy mainly because of the "Juggalo" aspect (face painted white guys trying to act black to other people), but I think Subnoize is underrated. Undeniably. And when Warlock said about Subnoize signing someone to release only 1 album or something like that, i understand, but Psy done that. Latest example- Dayton Family. I like their other work, outside of Psy, but I also loved their Psy album sooo much. It was amazing to me. Straight Gangster, yet still incorporate horror core.But anyways, I feel like even if Subnozie does try to put out something new but it fails, its not like Psy putting out things like Dayton Family and reintroducing them, but just to a different crowd of people. My dad also did say that Kottonmouth Kings were better at live performances that Twiztid, because during the Kaos & Kronik tour, Twiztid performed last, but they went straight through their set. Rarely a pause between songs to say anything, but Kottonmouth Kings constantly shouted out and make it interesting. My dad likes rock like Kiss, AC-DC and the older stuff like that. But my dad also stated that if Kottonmouth didn't have extras like Taxman & DJ Bobby B, or even Dirtball, that they still would've been better than Twiztid, because of more crowd interaction. (My dad is NOT NOT NOT a juggalo, and doesn't really like the fact I am a juggalo)Also, at the same show, Big B from Subnozie went over to the merch booth, had a big stack of 8x10 pictures of him and was signing them for free and giving them away. I even got a picture with him their. I also saw recently at a (hed) P.E. show, someone got a picture with their lead vocalist Jared because he was at the merch booth. Psy should do that. and for my last birthday, my "present" was a V.I.P.package to a show. I really want to meet ICP & KMK but just based off of how they act to fans, I like them both equally as artists, but I am going to chose to see KMK next time they have a V.I.P. package available.

The Warlock said:

they released 2.. an ep & an lp.. & it wasnt a shelved album

 

 

 

 

I think the EP was just to get it out there, like a "teaser" fot he album, because all of hose tracks were on the album. But you could but it at the F.Y.E.s near me... 

well the main album is even better, because I didnt really like the song "the Gathering" ft ICP, but the main album has some other good songs that make it worth it. my top 4 songs from the album are, in no particular order; Cocaine (on the EP & LP), When The Feds Come Run'n (LP), Aint No Sunshine (EP & LP), & Quit Snitch'n (feat. Dink Sosa) (LP). There are other good songs that are worth a listen, but I dont want to just rant about songs I like and bore you to death.