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10:49 am
July 6, 2014
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Mr. Tidwell said
BlazinStranger said
I'll make a bet with everyone I bet at gathering 17 ICP will announce that Young Wicked is officially the third member of ICP what do y'all think?I have some inside info on this.
You're kinda right but kinda wrong.
It's gonna stay two members but...
well, shit, look.
Nova told me that J and Shaggy are retiring and they are going to officially hand the ICP gimmicks to her and young wicked.
That would be...horrible beyond words. I mean of course YW is going to be around, like the next generation of ICP or whatever. But Nova? Seriously? She does not sound like a psychopathic artist.
If this were true, it would be so disastrous that...I don't even want to think about it.
@robtidwell are you serious or are you trolling us all??
11:19 am
May 4, 2014
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Carnivalkilla44 said
Unfortunately most probably this, which is something that could just as easily be reported on a Tuesday morning at FLH. Seriously, I never thought the FBI thing was a big deal. Who gives a fuck? Were people's lives really that messed up (who didn't already have prior records and most likely put themselves in a dumb situation) by the gang labeling?
FUCK THE FBI.
JC said
... @robtidwell are you serious or are you trolling us all??
Rob's one of our resident
so I'm betting he just likes being on a first-name basis with Ms. Rockafeller. This
seems more likely to happen in Detroit than that other thing.
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11:35 am
April 4, 2012
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krunkazphuk said
Carnivalkilla44 said
Unfortunately most probably this, which is something that could just as easily be reported on a Tuesday morning at FLH. Seriously, I never thought the FBI thing was a big deal. Who gives a fuck? Were people's lives really that messed up (who didn't already have prior records and most likely put themselves in a dumb situation) by the gang labeling?
FUCK THE FBI.
Right... so... who cares...? Sorry, no offense as maybe you do, but I never saw what the big deal was. Don't commit crimes and you should have nothing to worry about...
11:44 am
January 5, 2015
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I was joking. Seriously.
J has been encouraging her to be more juggalo though.
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12:17 pm
May 4, 2014
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Carnivalkilla44 said
Right... so... who cares...? Sorry, no offense as maybe you do, but I never saw what the big deal was. Don't commit crimes and you should have nothing to worry about...
Ideally; but by that logic, staying in well-lit areas and not dressing provocatively should keep everyone from being raped, right? Unfortunately that doesn't happen. As long as people are criminally profiled by musical tastes, tattoos, fashion, etc., I see it as an exploitable problem and a violation of U.S. rights. Plus, it opens the door for tools like this guy
https://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/.....-workshop/
to teach workshops. He shows "everyday items, including music, logos, technology and identifiers and the true meaning behind many of the products." To quote a friend, "There are few things worse than a zealot with a boner."
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12:34 pm
April 4, 2012
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krunkazphuk said
Carnivalkilla44 said
Right... so... who cares...? Sorry, no offense as maybe you do, but I never saw what the big deal was. Don't commit crimes and you should have nothing to worry about...Ideally; but by that logic, staying in well-lit areas and not dressing provocatively should keep everyone from being raped, right? Unfortunately that doesn't happen. As long as people are criminally profiled by musical tastes, tattoos, fashion, etc., I see it as an exploitable problem and a violation of U.S. rights. Plus, it opens the door for tools like this guy
https://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/.....-workshop/
to teach workshops. He shows "everyday items, including music, logos, technology and identifiers and the true meaning behind many of the products." To quote a friend, "There are few things worse than a zealot with a boner."
The above bolded I never said nor inferred.
As far Uncle Winslow's younger brother is concerned, aside from a Hatchetman/Hatchetgirl he has KMK stuff up there along with a beer pong player silhouette and four loko advertisements. What are the "true" meaning behind those and how do they relate to lo's/lette's being classified as gang members? Does playing four loko beer pong (that shit gets you drunk) while listening to KMK put me on a gang list also? No. He's just another wack job like us who would fit in well on the forums...
Repping the hatchet or attending GOTJ didn't put us on the FBI's list either. It's idiots like that chick posting pictures of herself with the gun online along with the I'm sure thousands of inmates in penitentiaries right now with hatchetman tattoos. Again, not saying it's right nor do I feel we deserve to be on said FBI list, but I don't believe it has negatively affected a mass amount of juggalos/juggalettes simply because the only thing they did was have a sticker, or t-shirt, or tat.
12:50 pm
May 9, 2014
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Honestly, I've never had any shit for wearing my hatchetgear either. A cop came into my room once (I wasn't in trouble for anything), and he was nice. I had hatchetgear all over my room (riddlebox blanket, posters, my shirt), and he wasn't like, "Stop! Gang Member!"
But I'm sure there's probably problems like that in other towns or big cities or sumn like that. Different towns, different people, or maybe that one cop was just nice, fuck if I know. I just know I was never harassed.
Were Lo's living outside of the US considered gang members too, since it was just the FBI.
And yeah, Wicked is defiantly the third member, and on the fourth jokers card, it'll be flipped, Wicked will take J's spot as rapping most, and J gets one solo, and Shaggy just gets to yell over songs.
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Carnivalkilla44 said
Were people's lives really that messed up (who didn't already have prior records and most likely put themselves in a dumb situation) by the gang labeling?
the ones that joined [or tried and failed to join] the military around that time were. i can verify that.
maybe not all of em, maybe not even most of em, but it happened; i saw it more than once.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
1:23 pm
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Mr. Tidwell said
BlazinStranger said
I'll make a bet with everyone I bet at gathering 17 ICP will announce that Young Wicked is officially the third member of ICP what do y'all think?I have some inside info on this.
You're kinda right but kinda wrong.
It's gonna stay two members but...
well, shit, look.
Nova told me that J and Shaggy are retiring and they are going to officially hand the ICP gimmicks to her and young wicked.
That's the day psychopathic merch sales plummet by 50%
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King Lucem Ferre1:32 pm
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Carnivalkilla44 said
krunkazphuk said
Carnivalkilla44 said
Right... so... who cares...? Sorry, no offense as maybe you do, but I never saw what the big deal was. Don't commit crimes and you should have nothing to worry about...Ideally; but by that logic, staying in well-lit areas and not dressing provocatively should keep everyone from being raped, right? Unfortunately that doesn't happen...
The above bolded I never said nor inferred...
Fine, replace the term 'raped' with 'car jacked' or any other violation. It's a logical comparison. If avoiding crimes should keep you out of trouble, then avoiding criminals should keep you out of trouble as well. Doesn't seem to always work.
Carnivalkilla44 said
...He's just another wack job like us who would fit in well on the forums...
Speak for yourself. I see him as just another bible salesman. This wack job responding to you knows enough to question authority, especially when it wants to explain the "true meaning" of things. I'll decide for myself. That's my fucking job.
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scruffy said
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lol you're an idiot. If you really think Icp is making money off the gotj you're smoking crack. THEY DO LOSE MONEY. J has said it countless times "we lose money each year but continue to do this for the family" why the fuck would someone say they lose money at the gotj? you're fucking retardedseriously, other than 'j said so', how do you know?
did you do the math? i did. did it back when whoever was claimin that they made a cool ten million every gathering [which is equally wrong].
[edit] typo fix.
Lol you didn't do any math figures because you don't know what they are paying anybody. They have tons of mainstream acts, that probably get paid a hefty amount. Vendors, Carnival rides, food, Plumbing, golf carts, rent of property, and all the other stuff.
If you literally think they are profiting off of merch sales and the 10-20k (if that) people that attend then LOL.
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krunkazphuk said
Carnivalkilla44 said
krunkazphuk said
Carnivalkilla44 said
Right... so... who cares...? Sorry, no offense as maybe you do, but I never saw what the big deal was. Don't commit crimes and you should have nothing to worry about...Ideally; but by that logic, staying in well-lit areas and not dressing provocatively should keep everyone from being raped, right? Unfortunately that doesn't happen...
The above bolded I never said nor inferred...
Fine, replace the term 'raped' with 'car jacked' or any other violation. It's a logical comparison. If avoiding crimes should keep you out of trouble, then avoiding criminals should keep you out of trouble as well. Doesn't seem to always work.
Carnivalkilla44 said
...He's just another wack job like us who would fit in well on the forums...
Speak for yourself. I see him as just another bible salesman. This wack job responding to you knows enough to question authority, especially when it wants to explain the "true meaning" of things. I'll decide for myself. That's my fucking job.
People are like this they think ONE single extreme solution fits all situations. I hate that. It is exactly why racism, extremism and any other form of evil still exists because people truly believe that one simple extreme action can prevent all issues in a single category.
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King Lucem Ferre1:42 pm
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krunkazphuk said
It's a logical comparison.
uh... not really.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
1:48 pm
May 4, 2014
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scruffy said
krunkazphuk said
It's a logical comparison.uh... not really.
Interesting; please elaborate.
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Two important things that only a bit of reading well teach you.
First. THE FBI TOOK JUGGALOS OFF THE GANG LIST FOUR YEARS AGO. ICP are now trying to make sure it never happens again to anybody else, not just juggalos.
Second is the reason why they put juggalos on the list is because in Salt Lake City they found a few unconnected marijuana dealers that were juggalos. They literally had no concrete evidence to put juggalos on the gang list. All though I have met a lot of juggalos that have claimed to 'bang juggalo' and tell me that so and so is the juggalo leader of this or that section and so forth. So the real reason why juggalos are on the list is Mormons. We have to kill all the Mormons. Or at least eradicate them from our political system.
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for one thing, committing a crime and bein the victim of a crime are, by any standard, complete opposites.
dont get me wrong, a good semanticist can stretch the comparison any direction they wanna. given enough time, i could metaphorically prove that the whole fbi gang thing is just a total rehash of the franco-prussian war.
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King Lucem Ferre said
So the real reason why juggalos are on the list is Mormons.
there is a grain of truth to this.
petty shit in salt lake city figured heavily into the affidavit. i read the thing, a few times.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
2:01 pm
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Nyro said
krunkazphuk said
Carnivalkilla44 said
krunkazphuk said
Carnivalkilla44 said
Right... so... who cares...? Sorry, no offense as maybe you do, but I never saw what the big deal was. Don't commit crimes and you should have nothing to worry about...Ideally; but by that logic, staying in well-lit areas and not dressing provocatively should keep everyone from being raped, right? Unfortunately that doesn't happen...
The above bolded I never said nor inferred...
Fine, replace the term 'raped' with 'car jacked' or any other violation. It's a logical comparison. If avoiding crimes should keep you out of trouble, then avoiding criminals should keep you out of trouble as well. Doesn't seem to always work.
Carnivalkilla44 said
...He's just another wack job like us who would fit in well on the forums...
Speak for yourself. I see him as just another bible salesman. This wack job responding to you knows enough to question authority, especially when it wants to explain the "true meaning" of things. I'll decide for myself. That's my fucking job.
People are like this they think ONE single extreme solution fits all situations. I hate that. It is exactly why racism, extremism and any other form of evil still exists because people truly believe that one simple extreme action can prevent all issues in a single category.
When did I infer any of this? Damn people. Sorry that not breaking the law doesn't put you in trouble with the police doesn't make any sense...
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scruffy said
Carnivalkilla44 said
Were people's lives really that messed up (who didn't already have prior records and most likely put themselves in a dumb situation) by the gang labeling?the ones that joined [or tried and failed to join] the military around that time were. i can verify that.
maybe not all of em, maybe not even most of em, but it happened; i saw it more than once.
See, that's truly the bone right there and is a very screwed up situation if in fact the only reason there was for he/she not being admitted into the military was because they had juggalo related tattoos. (I assume that was the case and not when asked if they were ever or are currently a gang member they said yes...)
Thank you for simply responding to my question without putting words into my mouth.
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Carnivalkilla44 said
Sorry that not breaking the law doesn't put you in trouble with the police doesn't make any sense...
it makes sense.
dont always work out that way, but makes sense.
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2:16 pm
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scruffy said
Carnivalkilla44 said
Sorry that not breaking the law doesn't put you in trouble with the police doesn't make any sense...it makes sense.
dont always work out that way, but makes sense.
lol, I know I came off sounding like a dick when I said that and I do apologize. What I'm getting at is like @jiffylong said above. The FBI isn't waiting for you to make an arrest at the record store to see if you go in and attempt to purchase an ICP or Twiztid album. The majority of people having the gang status effect them negatively most likely did something to deserve it completely unrelated. Yes I acknowledge there are extreme cases and therefore, as I said previously, I do disagree with the label.
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