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why did Soopa Villianz flop?
July 17, 2015
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It seemed like a powerhouse idea and the music made on the record was ahead of its time for psychopathic (at that time at least)

 

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July 17, 2015
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I loved Furious. Two reasons:

1. Soopa Heroez never happened.

2. It wasn’t taken on the road.

July 17, 2015
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I think the beef surrounding the clowns and Esham from the past and present at the time was one of the main daggers. It was indeed a fantastic concept, but the album sort of flopped IMO. Maybe the reception just wasn’t good enough…?

And yes, Soopa Heroez would have been fresh.

July 17, 2015
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I really dug the whole concept of the SV. Was looking forward to a release from the SH camp but yeah, with Esham and Lavel leaving the label I believe thats why it all flopped. Lavel not being paid, Esham holding onto grudges, they bounced. Furious was dope, it took a little bit to grow on me but I liked it. The album Esham dropped on Acidrap.com was alright too, but seemed more like a ‘collaboration’ than a SV album, or they were tracks that  didn’t make the cut on the Furious album. Weren’t they talking about doing a tour at that time? Performing under SV costumes or something?

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July 17, 2015
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I thought the concept was a little light and with all the other super groups it just didn’t hold any water. It could have been really dope but the songs didn’t really do anything for me and so there was just nothing worth holding on to.

 

July 17, 2015
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honestly it had some really fun songs but as far as concept and all that goes the album got pretty repetitive, even with it being a shorter album…I guess maybe that was part of the point since they were mocking other styles of hip hop but it still felt rushed and thrown together at times…its a fun album to revisit though and I keep The Van, Mr. Club, and I Shot the DJ on my mp3 player constantly (while occasionally adding others from that album)

as far as it flopping with juggalos?…probably because it doesn’t sound like Riddlebox or Dark Lotus or Rydas or something else they already did lol

I think if they had stuck together they could have put together a really dope follow up album…a few of those songs on that Esham SV podcast thing were pretty fresh they were just unmixed/incomplete due to them leaving and taking all those joints with them…Everyone is my shit

July 17, 2015
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Shaggy should have rapped instead of just screaming choruses. They didn’t really talk about then doing stuff with their super powers that much.

July 17, 2015
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SV fucking sucked.

July 17, 2015
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Pigg said
Shaggy should have rapped instead of just screaming choruses. They didn’t really talk about then doing stuff with their super powers that much.

^ this is the first important factoid about SV. At least a few raps here and there. would’re ruled. I understand he is Mr. Club, the DJ Killa, but damn. However, the screamed choruses, while repetetive, were occasionally awesome. 

More:

– The Podcast album had “Everyone”, one of my favorite tracks ever. J at his best. He just embodied that beat to the fullest. I love it.

– “Slow Your Roll”, aka The Faggot Song, is bullshit. It is needlessly hateful, and J’s verse in particular is wack. It sounds like he is rapping from Joseph Bruce the Taxpayer’s perspective, not Mr. Diamond the Soopa Villain from outer space. It is pure bullshit, but I am giving credit where it is due, the song still is catchy and entertaining. Like Guns N Roses’ “One in a Million” or “Nigger Hatin Me” by Johnny Rebel. Sad to admit.

– I bought that album and played it with weirdos at a shitty hotel, doing a bunch of pills and cocaine. Not ever really my style, but I loved how it befuddled the folks who had no clue what it was.

– Lavel is usually the weakest link in the group, but he did well in the Mr. Heart role. 

– An SV comic is dope. I love the cd inserts with the old school “hero attributes”.

July 18, 2015
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Old Mr Dangerous said

Pigg said
Shaggy should have rapped instead of just screaming choruses. They didn’t really talk about then doing stuff with their super powers that much.

^ this is the first important factoid about SV. At least a few raps here and there. would’re ruled. I understand he is Mr. Club, the DJ Killa, but damn. However, the screamed choruses, while repetetive, were occasionally awesome. 

More:

– The Podcast album had “Everyone”, one of my favorite tracks ever. J at his best. He just embodied that beat to the fullest. I love it.

– “Slow Your Roll”, aka The Faggot Song, is bullshit. It is needlessly hateful, and J’s verse in particular is wack. It sounds like he is rapping from Joseph Bruce the Taxpayer’s perspective, not Mr. Diamond the Soopa Villain from outer space. It is pure bullshit, but I am giving credit where it is due, the song still is catchy and entertaining. Like Guns N Roses’ “One in a Million” or “Nigger Hatin Me” by Johnny Rebel. Sad to admit.

– I bought that album and played it with weirdos at a shitty hotel, doing a bunch of pills and cocaine. Not ever really my style, but I loved how it befuddled the folks who had no clue what it was.

– Lavel is usually the weakest link in the group, but he did well in the Mr. Heart role. 

– An SV comic is dope. I love the cd inserts with the old school “hero attributes”.

yeah Shaggy rapping might have helped too idk…mainly it was just repetitive like I said earlier…the constant screaming choruses got old and my favorite songs tend to be the ones where its switched up from that…it had potential but the project felt too narrow minded at the end of the day…had they expanded the concept a bit more it would have been great but unfortunately they didn’t have the chance since Esham and Lavel split soon after…I do like that its one of those rare Psychopathic releases though…fun to listen to when playing GTA but then again so are the Rydas lol

July 18, 2015
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Repetitive as fuck, no shaggy raps, lavel. It could have been so much better. Hell I would have rather just had an E&J album then this 

July 18, 2015
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Because compared to Migraine Headache, Silence Of The Hams, and especially Soopa Villains from Shangri La it was terrible.

July 18, 2015
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I thought the album was garbage. I bought it from HG when it was up for preorder and was so pissed. I gave it away. The production was garbage. If it would have sounded like the shit they released prior to that album it would of been dope. 

July 18, 2015
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BZA said 
Because compared to Migraine Headache, Silence Of The Hams, and especially Soopa Villains from Shangri La it was terrible.   

this just about covers my viewpoint. 

agree with some of the other stuff yall are sayin, too.  for me, though, the big problem was that songs like these had me eagerly awaiting a completely different album. 

 

id estimate that, say, half the tracks on furious are decent-to-good;  the rest keep the album from havin much replay value. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

July 18, 2015
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Migraine Headache is one of my faves. 

still waiting on that Planned Panic record, hahshs

July 18, 2015
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why does everyone assume that anything Psychopathic works on is gunna be 100% golden.

 

like cold 187um, soopa villianz was a whack idea that should have never gone forward.

July 18, 2015
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SV was a dope idea. And the original songs they made were dope as fuck. It’s the way they executed it and the “new” production they went with. Just like drive by, they fucked that all up to the original drive by songs were fire then we get that shitty version. It’s because juggalos buy anything

July 18, 2015
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I liked SV more when it came out than I do now.  The chorus on every song is basically the name of the song repeated a few times with the word “soopa” thrown in there, which kind of got annoying to me.  But I think it’s pretty good at least.  I thought the characters were cool, and I thought they did rap about their powers. I liked how each member had their own song that talked about their powers specifically. I loved when they revealed the idea and all the drawings at the ICP seminar that year. Everything was cool. Then Esham, Lavel, and ABK left Psychopathic and shit got weird.

 

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July 19, 2015
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I do like the album even though its definetly  not my favorite…the production and the use of the fast guitars(and the fact that esham was all over it) is what drew me into it.

If u think about it some of the electronic techno-ish sounds (cant call it EDM since that wasnt poppin like that ten years ago) is a little reminiscent  of missing link lost

July 19, 2015
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EDM has existed for like 30 years. It just used to be called Techno.

 

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