Mike "Peezy 4 Sheezy" Puwal III started in '96 "Grand Funk Railroad" & produced 10 albums b4 joining Psychopathic Records also iz a guitarist & produced about 30+ albums & iz in Zug Izland (guitar player,producer & writer on the group's 1st 2 cd'z) & earned 9 number one's & 24 top 10'z on the billboard charts. 

Mike E.arl Clark started in '88 Viv Akauldren "Witness" & he too produced 10 albums b4 doin COC  wit ICP & 6 more b4 joining Psychopathic Records & also is a DJ & produced about 70+ albums

I think they are both good,but Mike clark is the man....

The Warlock said:

i prefer mike e's shit from before mike p came in the picture the most however i do prefer mike p's shit over mike e's new shit...

Agreed...

I like em both and wanna hear them collab for ICP's next card just to mix it up a bit. Milenko and Shangri-La both have awesome production but they also had big budgets too. So I think that has something to do with it. They went to high tech studios to record those albums. Something they haven't done since Shangri-La. But at the end of the day it's ICP's call on how good an album is. Riddle Box was recorded in a basement and it's a classic. No amount of production can save lame content but great content can always save cheap raw production (ICP's early work). Some of the best music ever made is from struggling artists with little money. Music from the heart. But they're wack now and production won't matter much. ICP albums I like aren't judged on production. Very little anyway. Shit I'd rather listen to Golden Goldies bootlegs and have a real laugh than listen to most of the garbage they've been putting out lately. It ain't the production's fault.

The biggest problem is ICP is boring and are throwing a bunch of stuff at the wall hoping some of it sticks. Totally different mentality than their start to finish sound they did during the first 6 cards. Where their voices stayed consistent throughout the albums and they felt like one long song. The reason ICP albums lately haven't been good is because ICP haven't been good. It's really that simple. They're trying to do too many things and have lost their identity and what works. They used to be entertaining. They're not anymore. Only bits and pieces here and there but rarely.

But I'm all for big production. It would be dope if they stopped being cheap with it and went out to big studios again. Maybe spending the money will motivate them to not be ass.

Hells yeah!

Hilarious.

Give me them fucking nuggets bitch or I'll punch your fuckin face!! 

Mike P is talented but Mike E for the win

& fritz & twiztid...