Fuck your opinion.

So the new shit isn't wicked it's Hot Topic bullshit? I'm sorry, I've never really been inside of a Hot Topic so correct me If I'm wrong but isn't Hot Topic a shop that sells clothes for goth kids and Marylin Manson fans, shit along that line? I have to point out that every thing about Marylin Manson-the look, the lyrics the sound-is all 10x more wicked and even more in your face than ICP has ever been. That's what you say real juggalos like, right? ICP music that's dark, wicked, and in your face with hidden truths? That has Marylin Manson written all over it which, to me, seems like the type of shit Hot Topic stands behind, that and Hello Kitty. Again, I've never really been inside a Hot Topic just the assumptions based on people's descriptions of the store. If I'm right about Hot Topic, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, then by this dude's definition of REAL juggalos a REAL juggalo should stand behind Hot Topic, am I wrong?

Saying that Hell's Pit isn't wicked is like saying that Ghandi was a violent dictator. Hell's Pit probably had some of the darkest, wickedest, most depressing sick and twisted lyrics of any ICP album yet. Yeah, Riddle Box was dark, but it had much more of a happy joking feeling to it than Hell's Pit did. Hell's Pit talked about suicide, manic depression, how it feels to be isolated and caged in a mental hospital with only the high of sedatives to keep happy. Falling Angels, probably one of the darkest songs ICP has ever done, a song about shooting angels out of the sky until he finds his lover so he can ask her why she died, how is that not wicked or dark?

Saying that only fake juggalos can actually get into the new shit is some bullshit, complete bullshit. Yeah, in no way is the new shit going to compare to the old shit, but what do you want them to do? The best music comes from taking the time to pull it out from inside of you, it's a part of the artist. ICP aren't nearly as angry and depressed as they used to be so they are not going to make music that is as dark and depressing as the old shit because it wouldn't be real shit. Yeah, I was highly disappointing in the lack of wickedness in the album (especially in the title track) but so the fuck what? I still thought it was a good album. Like they haven't done happy shit in the past? If I want the old school sound of ICP I'll listen to the old school ICP songs.

This whole “the fam has gone down hill” shit is also bullshit. I believe that juggalos are like the rest of the planet, majority of us have been, still are, and always will be stupid ass, selfish mother fuckers. People say that the “family” thing has brought us down, fuck you. The “family” thing is what has shown us who the true ones are and who the fakes are. I believe in family, but I don't see it as just a juggalo thing, I treat every body like they are apart of the “juggalo family”. The only thing that separates how I treat juggalos from other people is that we both are into a kind of  esoteric culture that not every one knows so we can both geek out on it. I find it pathetic that some one has to sport a hatchet man to give some people a reason to respect you, but I'm pretty sure that there were juggalos that only respected other juggalos before the family era. I'm pretty sure there were juggalos trying to guilt other juggalos into helping them with shit using the juggalo thing as an excuse before the family era as well. I'm pretty sure there were sheepalos before the family era.

I also find it bullshit that every juggalo that disagrees and actually likes some of the new shit is a “sheepalo”. Now days I see two groups of juggalos fighting each other; the juggalos that think any juggalo that doesn't ride ICP's dick to the end is a juffalo and the juggalos that think that just because you like certain songs that they don't like you are a sheepalo. Fuck both of you ignorant imbecile bastards. The first category of juggalos obviously falls under the term “sheepalos”. For the second category I have come up with the perfect name for them. As much as I hate this term because it gets tagged to people just for liking a certain genre and the real definition for the term was a description for young, white males who listened to jazz in the 40s and 50s, I think it fits quite well with the second category. Hipsterlos, combining the term “Hipster” with the term “juggalo”. The term Hipster is used now days to describe people who only listen to the underground genres and songs of genres that were made before the said genre was popular. They think that you have to follow an underground trend, or as I say “anti-trend” or you will be tagged as a mainstream sheep. Yes it is hypocrisy that they tell you to think for yourself while at the same time they shun you for not thinking the way they think. One of the most common things a hipster would say is, “I've listened to this before they got popular” as if to say that they have more credibility than anybody who didn't listen before something became popular. I think this new term, “Hipsterlo” fits perfectly for those old school, “REAL” juggalos.

You want me to defend my opinion of Mighty Death Pop? It's not like I have to defend my opinion but I will anyways. First off, they lyricism has definitely been stepped up on this album. Hell, listen to Shaggy on Kickin' Kickin', definitely a step up. Any fan of lyricism can appreciate this, I'm pretty sure both Warlock and iLLtheClown can back me up on this. The production is still good, they do have fresh ass beats on there, maybe the mixing could have been better on some songs (Daisy) but the beats were still pretty fresh. This album has emotion in it, they are not young, angst filled teens anymore, they are aging parents so you can feel that. They still retain a peace of their past while showing that they have changed, especially on The Blaster when he talks about his son killing the bully, it's like he's passing his hatchet down to his kids. Anybody that couldn't feel the hidden emotions in that part must be numb. The raw emotion of Hate Her To Death, any body who has ever been through a tough break up or even if there was a girl that you knew would never date you could feel that song. Forever was a peaceful song, like they are finally at peace in their life and if that makes you mad then you are a heartless bastard for wanting them to forever be in the dark tormenting hatred pit they were in for the longest time. This new album has grown in maturity, there are some deep subject matter and really deep messages in this album. Where's God was an extremely deep song for me as an atheist and I'm pretty sure it's just as deep for religious people as well. Even the haters praised how deep that song was. Daisy, even though the mixing was shit on that song, was extremely deep and completely poetic. The whole message of that song is just beautiful and if you can't appreciate that then you can swallow a 10 foot dick.

And for the last bit of this essay, I must call bullshit on the whole “now juggalos have become the misfit” rant. Since when has ICP not rapped about being the misfit? Since day one they have painted this whole dark carnival thing as a place for misfits. The Juggla talks about him being a nerd who goes psycho on his class. Never Had It Made talks about how he's been a misfit since the beginning of his life. Toy Box from the beloved Riddle Box album talks about how he's a misfit nerd again. I'm sorry, but when has the juggalo image been about being the cool kid in class or the normal guy?

ahha34 said:

The wicked shit was never about how much horrorcore they could put in a song, the wicked shit was the old icp which is talking about those things but with a sense of humor, with a fresh fuckin beat…seriously I cant believe i have to describe the wicked shit to juggalos but THATS the wicked shit

 

based on your guys fuckin definition all horrorcore black metal ect is the WICKED SHIT. no the wicked shit is fucking ICP but hellz pit didnt feel like icp it felt like a hotttopic like CD for kids who want to feel understood. I didnt want a fucking straight up horrorcore cd thats not ICP icp are fucking clowns meaning they are funny but spit that WICKED SHIT again i cant believe im explaining this but I do understand there isnt very many REAL juggalos because we know that wicked shit

 

After J started smoking weed he changed up his style and (LOL) started TALKING about smoking weed rapping faster and actually sounded like he was trying. I cant even listen to the MDP because I feel embarressed; it all sounds so fucking corny.

 

Listen to “12” and you'll know what that real shit sounds like; this new shit sounds like mainstream garbage

 

again I havent gotten a single response about why the new shit is good is that so fucking hard I mean everyone just whoop whoops until there fucking dick seems to fall off but cant give one explanation WHY its good. Doesnt make the family look good if you ask me.

 

and props to whoever said fuck icp because twiztid makes icp looks like a fucking highschool band, and they seriously should be running psychopathic.

No, you are completely wrong on the definition of the Wicked Shit. Esham created the Wicked Shit with his first album “Boomin' Words From Hell” which came before ICP spit wicked shit and I don't think much of that album is funny. I think Wicked Shit is dark, spooky, horrorcore type shit that has a hidden, deeper message to it. In reality Wicked Shit really is just another word for horrocore, but MY definition seems to be what sets the wicked shit artists apart from the horrorcore artists. Not humor, but the deeper message. The humor in ICP's music was just part of the wicked clown gimmick, not the wicked shit. A REAL juggalo knows this.

I'm getting real sick of this 'mainstream vs. underground' bullshit. So what you are saying is that you can't think for yourself so you let the underground think for you. A REAL juggalo knows that to be a juggalo one thinks for their self. They don't listen to music based on how “mainstream” it is but on how good they think it is.

I left a whole paragraph on how the new album was good with out saying “whoop whoop” once. In fact., I only remember somebody posting 'Whoop Whoop' only one time on this whole entire forum. Just talking out of your ass with assuming ignorance right there.

Yeah yeah, most of us prefer Twiztid over ICP, but I don't think ICP really runs Psychopathic, I know they got rid of Alex Abyss but I'm pretty sure they have someone new managing it for them.

Continue with your hipsterlo comments though, tell us more about how you are a REAL juggalo because you have been down since a certain album dropped and you prefer a certain sound over a more current sound and anybody who disagrees is a “sheepalo”.

Anyone who really gives two shits about a title like “REAL juggalo” probably isn't one.

I can agree that ICP's best work is behind them, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate their recent releases. If you think I'm not a REAL juggalo because I like Mighty Death Pop, I really don't care.

Ahha 34 u still havent answered my question u like that gay ass twiztid huh mr real juggalo u prolly bump juggalo island u trick ass buster