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What should Psychopathic do to avoid crashing and bankruptcy?
March 2, 2013
10:57 pm
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Lucem Ferre said:

Rhetoric is the way you say something.

Like if I were to say, "The sun is a flaming torch that sends dull rays of light in an attempt to lighten up this dark world." that would be a very somber rhetoric.

If I were to say, "The sun is a big ball of happiness that sends little rays of joy and happiness to this spectacular planet." that would be quite the opposite.

 

In this case he's saying that all of what they are saying is nothing more than words with no true meaning.

in a nutshell. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

March 2, 2013
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I didn't really need a definition for it as I understood what it meant in scruffs initial post. It was just a word I never took time to really know what it meant.

March 3, 2013
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iLLtheClown said:

I didn't really need a definition for it as I understood what it meant in scruffs initial post. It was just a word I never took time to really know what it meant.

Yeah, people don't usually use it for the true definition.

March 3, 2013
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ClowninPrincess said:

have a little faith fuck. 

Now that's what I'm talkin bout. Way better than a pity fuck.

March 3, 2013
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wow a chick said:

ClowninPrincess said:

have a little faith fuck. 

Now that's what I'm talkin bout. Way better than a pity fuck.

cant argue with that logic.

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

March 3, 2013
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homisyde said:

Saw it awhile ago somewhere on the net. When they were on Howard stern Howard mentioned icp made 10 mill last year. That's one yr...how long have they been goin strong for? Their fat paid...if u can't accept that your fucking dumbass. Psychopathic will b round as long as they want it to be round

to which violent J's response was along the lines of "thats what they say...it sounds good to me, so i wont argue with it." and when howard followed up by asking if they were millionaires, J straight up said "i dont have a million in the bank"

 

nobody on here ever claimed to be all-knowing, but when a thread such as this is posted, some will find interest in it and some wont...i dont understand why some feel the need to constantly point out the obvious "its all speculation/nobody on here has any idea what theyre talking about blahblahblah"

 

its a messageboard...if you dont enjoy discussing the topic, dont click the thread...?

March 3, 2013
3:06 pm
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Whatever happen to sticking Faygo in their songs again?  In the end, nothing will be changed...this is the new ICP.  ICP's vocals are different compared to the 90's.  I guess puberty never stops.

Sure I would like to ICP to go back to how there sounded in the early years but those days are done...I've moved on. Took me from The Wraith to Bang Pow Boom to realize it.  I like ICP with other artist better now then just them. The Forever & Chris Benoit songs with Geto Boys and Ice Cube were sweet. I liked Playin' In The Woods song the best - basically a Violent J solo.

March 3, 2013
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BillBurr said:

to which violent J's response was along the lines of "thats what they say...it sounds good to me, so i wont argue with it." and when howard followed up by asking if they were millionaires, J straight up said "i dont have a million in the bank"

 

Then 2 Dope continues and says "you want to take a ride in my whip, it's on my wrist" as he throws his wrist up glazed in diamond.

March 3, 2013
6:31 pm
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Thats this interview regarding the 10 million

 

March 3, 2013
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To many people worried about money that ain't theirs
and after 20 plus years im sure icp knows what there doing
Let's not get caught up in the business side of it and let's just enjoy the music and tha enjoyment that comes from it

March 3, 2013
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SouthideNinja414 said:

BillBurr said:

to which violent J's response was along the lines of "thats what they say...it sounds good to me, so i wont argue with it." and when howard followed up by asking if they were millionaires, J straight up said "i dont have a million in the bank"

 

Then 2 Dope continues and says "you want to take a ride in my whip, it's on my wrist" as he throws his wrist up glazed in diamond.

...and?...so you think J is lying to "keep it scrubby" to avoid a juggalo backlash or you think a bracelet speaks more than the face of the group straight up saying he has less than a million dollars?

March 3, 2013
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that watch aint even that blingin...

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March 4, 2013
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the_almighty_smack said:

I heard twiztid is going to be on shark tank next year they filmed an episode trying to sell their name using psyhcopathic's bussiness model, they quickly got dissmiss by 3 sharks but Kevin O'leary made fun of them a bit before he said no and then they begged Lauren to get them on QVC they said they could sell a million records on QVC but Lauren also passed on their offer later on that day Monoxide was seen bumming smokes in the parking lot.

Perfect response to this rumor and any other thing posted on this thread or any other thread like this.

 

March 4, 2013
1:33 am
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BillBurr said:

homisyde said:

Saw it awhile ago somewhere on the net. When they were on Howard stern Howard mentioned icp made 10 mill last year. That's one yr...how long have they been goin strong for? Their fat paid...if u can't accept that your fucking dumbass. Psychopathic will b round as long as they want it to be round

to which violent J's response was along the lines of "thats what they say...it sounds good to me, so i wont argue with it." and when howard followed up by asking if they were millionaires, J straight up said "i dont have a million in the bank"

 

nobody on here ever claimed to be all-knowing, but when a thread such as this is posted, some will find interest in it and some wont...i dont understand why some feel the need to constantly point out the obvious "its all speculation/nobody on here has any idea what theyre talking about blahblahblah"

 

its a messageboard...if you dont enjoy discussing the topic, dont click the thread...?

Well, it's threads like these that get nasty little rumors started. Let's say I start a thread that says, "The Truth About BillBurr And His Homosexual Tendencies!!!!" and the whole thread was full of people posting rumors and speculating on your sexuality. If you don't like the thread don't click on it, right?

Or lets say you get into a minor fight with your wife or girl friend or what ever and people start speculating on you guys getting broke up. Rumors get started that you cheated on her, that you are broke and she's leaving you for a much more successful man, or that you couldn't please her in bed... shit like that. If you don't like the speculation than don't pay attention right?

Or, just to be fair, what if it were ICP who started the speculation on you since you are so willing to speculate and start rumors on them?

It's more about us telling you to mind your own business and quit talking about shit you have no clue about. It's rude. This message is more so for the people who just talk mad shit on certain artists (cough cough almighty smack cough cough) when they have no real clue. Person doesn't have enough for his groceries once because the bank screwed something up with the credit card (which happens often) and BAMM all of a sudden everybody thinks he's broke and people start saying that he's homeless. ICP lose both Twiztid and Boondox and BAMM all of a sudden they are going down hill and everybody thinks they are going bankrupt. It's just stupidity.

March 4, 2013
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Lucem Ferre said:

Well, it's threads like these that get nasty little rumors started. Let's say I start a thread that says, "The Truth About BillBurr And His Homosexual Tendencies!!!!" and the whole thread was full of people posting rumors and speculating on your sexuality. If you don't like the thread don't click on it, right?

Or lets say you get into a minor fight with your wife or girl friend or what ever and people start speculating on you guys getting broke up. Rumors get started that you cheated on her, that you are broke and she's leaving you for a much more successful man, or that you couldn't please her in bed... shit like that. If you don't like the speculation than don't pay attention right?

Or, just to be fair, what if it were ICP who started the speculation on you since you are so willing to speculate and start rumors on them?

It's more about us telling you to mind your own business and quit talking about shit you have no clue about. It's rude. This message is more so for the people who just talk mad shit on certain artists (cough cough almighty smack cough cough) when they have no real clue. Person doesn't have enough for his groceries once because the bank screwed something up with the credit card (which happens often) and BAMM all of a sudden everybody thinks he's broke and people start saying that he's homeless. ICP lose both Twiztid and Boondox and BAMM all of a sudden they are going down hill and everybody thinks they are going bankrupt. It's just stupidity.

well...with all due respect, that has to be one of the most off-base responses to any internet posting etiquette summit i have ever seen.

 

you really tried to draw a connection between a few fans discussing how famous musicians (read: celebrities: a famous person; the state of being well known) could improve the success of their record label (pure speculation,yes...but offensive/out of line?not in the least) and a bunch of strangers starting a gay rumor about a username?...or someone going through a break-up because apparently their relationship wasn't strong enough to survive gossip?...or here's my favorite one, icp starting vicious rumors about me personally...i don't know if its possible for you to have missed the point anymore so (...unless your trolling, in which case...well played sir)

 

i do love how worried you seem to be about this thread somehow changing the course of history and single handedly bankrupting psychopathic records...like if we talk about it, its more possible or its gonna start some uncontrollable "rumor" that leads to the destruction of the insane clown posse...relax, it's not that serious.i promise.

 

you don't seem to be able to comprehend what comes with the territory of being a celebrity. you talk about icp like they are a anonymous stranger getting bullied. you would think they were children with the way your defending them...shit, wtf happen to being serial killas? you are not the insane clown posse, so i dont see how you could be talking on their behalf, or drawing a line in the sand as to what is acceptable conversation and what is not aloud...but regardless, discussing the state of their label and what we (as fans) speculate the case to be IS NOT in anyway past any point of decency.i did not make this thread, but i have enjoyed reading it far more than anything i have seen you post (especially responses such as cryptic the clown's...some grade A speculation!)

 

you really think it's "stupidity" to question if a record label could be in any trouble in 2013 when they lose one of the only two acts that has successfully carried it for over a decade?...it's just THAT preposterous?its THAT beyond the realm of possibility? seems like a pretty decent cause of concern to me so i guess i'm THAT stupid

 

so yeah...feel free to try again, but a few fans talking about the success of a famous band's record label is NOT comparable to someone making up lies about the sexual orientation of strangers or any other second grade metaphor you care to come up with.

March 4, 2013
11:54 am
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No i just think money is a private issue to them and i dont really think it concerns us, what should he have to do next? Show us his bank account. Come on man, get fucking real.

March 4, 2013
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BillBurr said:

i dont understand why some feel the need to constantly point out the obvious "its all speculation/nobody on here has any idea what theyre talking about blahblahblah"

Lucem Ferre said:

It's more about us telling you to mind your own business and quit talking about shit you have no clue about. It's rude. This message is more so for the people who just talk mad shit on certain artists (cough cough almighty smack cough cough) when they have no real clue.

BillBurr said:

relax, it's not that serious.i promise.

that oughtta streamline the discussion a bit. 

 

bill, the point that lucem is [rather indelicately] making, is that none of this blather is doing anybody any good.

lucem, the point that bill is [apparently] making, is that all of this blather is equally unimportant, unless it goes against his pov, in which case it is somehow even more unimportant. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

March 4, 2013
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psy. lost Twiztid. yell  Boondox quit.

K R U S H - K I L L - D E S T R O Y !

March 4, 2013
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Just read his response, he has some horrible reading comprehension skills. Really awful.

I like how he jumps the gun and tries to claim that I said that this thread would bring down the business. When did I say that? Then again gossipers do tend to over exaggerate things, don't they? I simply said it was rude, nothing about what he mentioned.

I said that the message is more so for the people who just come on and start rumors just to talk shit as well, another point which he ignored. Hell, not only did he ignore that statement but he also took the whole post as a personal attack towards him. I even named a specific name in there.

Even though I didn't even mention it and have no clue why you think my post was about this ,yes, stupid fucking rumors do have the potential to do harm. Who would want to sign to Psychopathic if there is a rumor going around about them being broke? Nobody.

 

His response is a perfect example of gossip logic, he over exaggerates, picks and chooses what parts he sees and what parts he doesn't and makes something out of nothing.

 

What I enjoyed from this thread were the comments about how hilarious it is that a bunch of people who (assuming) don't own business's are trying to give their ideas on how to run a business.

 

Oh, and gossiping about a celebrity isn't any better than gossiping about a neighbor. The only difference is the safety of celebrity gossip compared to neighbor gossip.

March 4, 2013
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wow a chick said:

ClowninPrincess said:

have a little faith fuck. 

Now that's what I'm talkin bout. Way better than a pity fuck.

Unless a priest is involved....C.P.K. all day baby

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