I honestly don't think (can't be for certain, though) that anyone on this forum would actually attack a homosexual or transgendered person for their views. It's funny (I assume) because they AREN'T gay. For example, when I make fun of one of my gay friends, I talk about how he loves pussy and girls because he thinks they're disgusting. However, I do feel there are some people on here who legitimately hate homosexuals or will troll to the point of not being able to tell the difference. The thing is, if they are gay, lesbian, transgendered, or otherwise, shouldn't they be proud of it? How is calling a gay person gay an insult? 

RobTidwell said

Pigg said
I would say JOKES don't make someone a bigot, serious thoughts and actions do.

jokes show our thoughts and actions. Jokes designed to make a certain group of people feel uncomfortable and unwelcome are hostile actions.

Like, the joke you said about making your friend mad about the pussy thing is one thing, but being openly hostile in the humor is another. We wouldn't tolerate openly racist "jokes" would we? I sure as fuck don't. 

I've heard more "black jokes" from black people than any other race, but I totally understand where you are coming from. I don't think the jokes are INTENDED to make those individuals uncomfortable, I can see how they would though.

Pigg said  
I would say JOKES don't * make someone a bigot, ...    

insert the caveat 'necessarily', and this becomes fully true.  

clearly wasnt pertinent, thats fully true.  

still a cool idea though.  the, uh, point of the thread, that is.  

I'll send something in if you'll take it.

Scruffy, I meant the jokes in and of themselves.

RobTidwell said
What is a Juggalo? is a question often asked by outsiders. And when we let outsiders try to define us, we get their interpretation of us as our reputation. That shit really bugs me. Who defines punks? Punks. Who defines goths? Goths. Who defines juggalos? fucking everybody and their momma. And that shit is annoying.

It's trendy as fuck to capitalize off us and exploit us and then these fucks who laugh at us make some half assed statement about how we're "really kinda cool" and "just like everybody else" and whatever and it just bugs the piss out of me. 

The other day the gathering website updated and one of the updates was a movie night thing where different psy artists will pick a movie to show and it got me thinking. I'm a video artist and there will be a projector and screen and everything I need to show my work at the gathering. I'm gonna try and do everything I can to get a video or two played before or between the movies or whatever.

One of my ideas is to take the song What Is A Juggalo and edit together footage of juggalos saying the lines. I want to get as many juggalos involved as possible. I want it to be BIG and special. I want to see mother fuckers painted up with their own designs and showing off their own creativity.

But I want it to go further than just the funny lyrics ICP wrote. I want people to include their own lines about what they wish people knew about who we are as a group or as individuals.

So, for me, I might say something about being an atheist who is also a sunday school teacher, and values what religion has to offer even if I don't believe in the supernatural.A friend of mine might mention being an asexual sexologist. Just quick little lines. Whatever. And we can all throw in our cities too, for those bits.

Anyway, so yeah. I need juggalos. I'll do the editing. Just upload the videos somewhere where i can download them. You can submit them on my tumblr (see link) or you can email them to my email [email protected] and you can show a URL or whatever you want to promote if you got something going on. 

I can't make any garuntees, but I'd love to get this together in time for the gathering and have it be part of the event, but also have it live online for free forever. And I expect great fucking lyrics about how juggalos ain't fucking gang members and shit. And fucking I would LOVE to include a few lyrics from women about what it means to be a juggalo/ette. 

Sorry if this is a big wall of text but I'd really appreciate getting some help with this.

Any way we can get this on the front page? @punkrockjuggalo ?

krunkazphuk said

RobTidwell said  
My racist dad also had kids with a mexican woman. All that proves is that there was a mexican woman willing to put up with his racist shit because she had no better options. 

Maybe it proves the fucker's setting up franchises.

What movies is this from... Pulp Fiction?

krunkazphuk said
Fight Club. And LGBTQ may be beautiful, but it is not a unique snowflake.

Dammit I was gonna say that and thought it was wrong.