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Hatchetman
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December 11, 2016
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I do kind of feel Twiztid doesn’t give the proper respect to ICP. Here is why,  originally Twiztid said they left because of bad business practices such as Psychopathic not having enough copies to cover preorders and things of that nature but as it went on during that first year it seemed Twiztid was salty about something much more then that. 

Mono has trashed ICP saying they were never that good. Called them out on the Boondox announcement and other things. 

While at a show Jamie said it was more because Twiztid needed to be able to grow and do their own thing artistically( which is funny cause the fuckers dressed Boondox up in the exact same outfit they gave Lex originally).

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December 11, 2016
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Nyro said 

Mono has trashed ICP saying they were never that good.

I never heard that one. But I know that shots were fired from Twiztid’s side of the fence. Mono’s verse in “Down With Us” and “Down Here”, was way too obvious. But it also seems like Mono is more salty about what went on during their tenure at PSY then Jamie is. As far as I see, Jamie hasn’t said jack about it. Except of course, lashing out at that Juggalo at GOTJ who asked him why they left PSY or something.

Look, we don’t know the whole story. We probably never will. But obviously, there was or is shady shit going on up at PSY. But it seems to be that everyone is trying to move on from it. Fuck it, let’s move on too.

"I Just Wanna Hide Inside My Own Private Hell"- Boondox

December 11, 2016
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The writing has been on the wall since when? Like ’03? It was apparent they were going to leave and to be honest PSY really wasn’t doing much for Twiztid there at the end. It’s obvious the way MNE is run that Twiztid is about a more aggressive merch and tour hustle than PSY was putting up.

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December 11, 2016
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Noah Fence said

You say this as a joke and they start coming up with more shit for you to buy and then you wonder where all your money went.  

It was a joke, Rob.

December 11, 2016
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Nyro said
I do kind of feel Twiztid doesn’t give the proper respect to ICP. Here is why,  originally Twiztid said they left because of bad business practices such as Psychopathic not having enough copies to cover preorders and things of that nature but as it went on during that first year it seemed Twiztid was salty about something much more then that. 

They never said that. That was just the speculation after they left.

Mono has trashed ICP saying they were never that good. Called them out on the Boondox announcement and other things. 

Mono never said that either. Yeah, he called Violent J out for breaking their news for them. Kind of like how J announced Blaze was off the label before Blaze even knew he was off the label which essentially caused Blaze to claim he’s never going back to that label. Or how he left Dayton Family in the dark about their position on the label until they heard they were off the label through an interview.

While at a show Jamie said it was more because Twiztid needed to be able to grow and do their own thing artistically( which is funny cause the fuckers dressed Boondox up in the exact same outfit they gave Lex originally).  

In pretty much every interview Jamie says they left because it’s time for them to grow because they want to make movies and books and all kinds of shit too.

 

I mean, you’re putting words in their mouths while ignoring how many times they have shown respect to ICP. Which is pretty much every interview you watch. It’s borderline ass kissery.

December 11, 2016
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I just gave a video link where mono said that. 

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December 11, 2016
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psy. held back and fucked Twiztid over! Violent J. never wanted anybody on the label that did better then i.c.p.!

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December 11, 2016
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You even liked the link!  It was clear what he said lol. 

You must be nut riding today Lucem.  When I get home I will link where Jamie said that at a show also. 

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December 11, 2016
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Never mind here is some of it.  I will give you more.  The mono one is on page one of this thread. Pretty obvious there were creative and business  differences.  “we had to so we could eat”.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fDaclmBS23g

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December 11, 2016
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I will give you more when I get home. 

 

It is pretty obvious. At the very end of that mono video he says. 

” They were never really that good anyways” 

Now that could be a context issue but if so he fucked up BIG time. 

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December 11, 2016
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Yeah, I remember that video very clearly.

He did not say 

we left because of bad business practices such as Psychopathic not having enough copies to cover preorders

He didn’t even

trash ICP saying they were never that good

He said something along the lines of  

It’s time that we get ours, nigga

Which could imply many things. Like perhaps their shine, they want to get out from under the shadow, or their money because they don’t think they are making enough, or their own business so they can have their own legacy. Or maybe all of the above or none of the above but no explicit statement at all that said anything you claimed they said. Which actually, plenty of juggalos bitched about.

 

You’re obviously nut riding the clowns. Because you keep trying to make Twiztid out to be disrespectful hacks that don’t know their place while putting literal words in their mouth. How they really feel is up in the air, you don’t actually know. And I’m pretty sure there is spitefulness personally. But how ICP runs their business is up in the air too, a little less, but we really don’t know enough on that one. And I’m pretty sure based on all the previous shady mistakes made that shit at Psy is not at all as heavenly as people try to paint it. Thus the perceived but not at all confirmed  spite towards them is justified. Not that it’s any of our business anyways.

And all of this while ignoring the fact that Twiztid pretty much kiss ICP’s ass in almost every interview. Claiming that if it weren’t for them they’d be no where. That they very much appreciate everything ICP has done for them. That their whole time on Psy was  a great learning experience and they are grateful to receive that and are now applying that to their business so they can help grow the culture. I mean, put words in their mouth and claim they said it all you want, but don’t ignore what they actually have said as well. The fucked up thing is, let’s say we’re right and Psy is fucking over artists and Twiztid are spiteful about it. They are still biting their tongues, swallowing their pride and kissing ICP’s ass the way they are for a bunch of whiny ass ungrateful garbage fans called juggalos that are still going to insert non existent bullshit rhetoric where they don’t belong anyways and use it as an excuse to tear them down. So ultimately, quit making shit up to slander these guys and mind your business.

December 11, 2016
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Watch the mono vid. He said those exact words.  

” they were never really that good. 

Not my fault you can’t face facts. 

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December 11, 2016
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Nyro said
I will give you more when I get home. 

 

It is pretty obvious. At the very end of that mono video he says. 

” They were never really that good anyways” 

Now that could be a context issue but if so he fucked up BIG time.   

No he didn’t.

He did say, “We’ve taken enough, it’s all good it’s all gooood”.

Again, you put words in their mouths and ignored the part where he said, “This ain’t malicious, we weren’t like ‘fuck this shit’ and just bounced, this has been in the making for a long time”

Like hell man. We need Jamie to come in to tell you to shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down and let that shit go.

December 11, 2016
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Nyro said
Watch the mono vid. He said those exact words.  

” they were never really that good. 

Not my fault you can’t face facts.   

 Point out the time he says it. You’re making up facts.

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https://youtu.be/hA2RsYyT9yg

Very end.  Not sure if he is talking about the time he spent with psy not being good or icp not being good.  Either context is some bitch shit. 

After re watching I believe he meant his memories of psy were not good. Still disrespectful to say about guys that MADE you. 

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December 11, 2016
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Nyro said
https://youtu.be/hA2RsYyT9yg

Very end.  Not sure if he is talking about the time he spent with psy not being good or icp not being good.  Either context is some bitch shit. 

After re watching I believe he meant his memories of psy were not good. Still disrespectful to say about guys that MADE you.   

He said ‘Put together and they still weren’t that good” as he’s obviously reading the chat feed and the video cuts.

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For reference I feel MNE is crushing psy right now and honestly I guarantee they had a good reason for leaving but mono was just as bitch as j during that whole debacle. 

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December 11, 2016
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King Lucem Ferre said

He said ‘Put together and they still weren’t that good” as he’s obviously reading the chat feed and the video cuts.  

Why would he read that out loud if he didn’t feel it? 

I mean come on he isn’t retarded. 

Of all the shit on a Twiztid chat feed,  why that?  By the way I knew you were gonna mention that,  everyone does. 

Business wise if he didn’t feel that way it benefits him none to say that or read that aloud. 

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December 11, 2016
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Nyro said

After re watching I believe he meant his memories of psy were not good. Still disrespectful to say about guys that MADE you.   

He didn’t and I don’t think ICP are entitled to ass kissing because it was business. It’s like saying Easy E. should have been sucking Jerry Heller’s knob. I think people need to stop giving ICP credit for all these people’s career and start giving credit to these people for getting ICP to think, “it’d probably be a good idea to sign these people to our label”. Their not selfless fucking saints for making a business deal the benefited them in the end.

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So even if I concede he didn’t mean it we would have to admit he is a dumbass for saying or reading it when the wounds are fresh. 

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