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March 31, 2012
8:28 am
January 11, 2013
Violentdope said:
I agree with u homie. people need to stop judging people cuz they do drugs.who gives a shit its their choice.Im from cali too and weed is accepted here we can walk down the street smokin and wont get fucked with.Look at caffeine.People are addicted to it but dont bitch about it cuz its “ok” same with prescription drugs, if its from ur doc its ok….backasswards
As much as I'm old school ICP all the way before drugs and alcohol took them over, there was also a certain charm to ICP during the Shangri-La/Wizard of the Hood days. It was a new ICP yes but a motivated ICP. Especially J who was running his ass off and rapping his ass off. Performing his ass off on stage. Some of it was corny but for that era of ICP being at peace with who they were I dug it and I know how happy weed makes me so I understand because that's when J started smoking it. But once J moved beyond weed he went to absolute shit and still is. Out of all Psychopathic history and every bad thing that's ever happened to it and from it and all the drama, J letting himself go is the one that hurts the most because he still hasn't recovered and who knows if he ever will. It was probably too much for one man to handle but that's also why Twiztid wanted to step up to the plate to take the pressure off the guy and help run things. The juggalos were excited about it but J was too greedy and didn't want to give up anything and now he's left with a dying label and still hasn't gotten himself together. Dude used to be a super hero to lost kids everywhere but now it's all just a sad sight to behold. I pray that he can still somehow turn it around though because ICP were one of a kind and it would suck to see it come to an end. Dig deep and find that motivation again like he did for Shangri-La. Not motivation of trying to be accepted by the mainstream but real motivation again. Like good health and being the best entertainer he can be again for juggalos. But he's old now so who knows.
To the worst albums. I don't know if I could name 10 because I haven't listened to them all past 2004 or 2005. So for ICP everything after Wizard of the Hood. J lost all his motivation (not just musically but as a human being it seems) and creativity after that and it's still gone. Hell's Pit was ok but I don't know. Just wasn't feeling it much anymore and that's when they started sounding really bored and out of it. J admitted he didn't want to do it and you can tell. He was still there during the Black Rain/Hell's Pit era but not really. He wasn't as excited as he used to be and that's when the alarm went off for me. And then The Calm was like a bad dream and everything after that. But the album that absolutely made me stop caring about every Psychopathic release was Road Fools so that and The Calm are 1-10 for me and they can battle it out over who gets the 1 spot. I honestly have no idea how that album got released and I bought it :(. Then here comes The Calm and it's like this can't be happening. 2005 is the year when Psychopathic was no more as far as I was concerned. Twiztid remained good and consistent for the most part and Boondox was kinda refreshing but the label has remained bad. And now even they're gone lol.
12:04 pm
oh wow, this is fucking funny.
wizard of the hood is dope as fuck, you must not smoke weed OR enjoy comedy,cause thats all that was.
whenever i listen to that album i laugh, its great.
I cant even begin to make a top 10 worst, because in my eyes ICP does no wrong lol
but heartbroken & homicidal is the absolute WORST cd by PSYCHOPATHIC, Independants day is a close second.
what i love about juggalos is they all feel ICP never should have changed, what they dont understand is that when you get older, your interests change, your sense of humor changes, your priorities change, these guys are old men now. they cant stay the same forever. dont hate on them because they have families now and they see shit differently, and in turn put it in their music.
4:01 pm
alot of the joker cards have the sound of wat music was doing. like ringmaster was made in 94, hip hop was still funky, same with all the other cards they are the sound of wat music was going thru. ya i know icp is different from mainstream but u can tell wat year a jokers card or old icp album is made by the sound and style. people want that old skool mike clark funk and J spittin scary stories, but they have moved on
4:57 pm
January 11, 2013
Not really because BPB and MDP were a lot of old beats from MEC’s library. They’re kinda stuck right now. I’d love to hear a completely new ICP sound like Shangri-La was a new sound with J being as motivated as he was back then. Maybe with Mike P back him and MEC working together could create some new dope shit. Have them cook up some shit for months in the studio. J doesn’t need to be in the studio. They just need to give him the demos while he’s out running smoking joints again and he can give them his input lol. Then when he’s ready get in there and lay it down hard. On Shangri-La he was yelling on every track. I miss that. Even if you don’t agree with their direction on that album, you can’t deny their energy and motivation on it. Sick of this just-got-out-of-bed borrrrring raps. Get back to that go hard or go home mentality and say it like you mean it.
6:19 pm
April 15, 2012
TEN is a lot of albums to list. so i'll just name a few that werent my favorite…
1) ICP – The Calm EP – I still like to bump it from time to time, but the production is mediocre, even ICP themselves admit to that.
2) ABK – Road Fools EP – OH MY FUCKING GOD THIS EP was HORRIBLE. the production was sloppy, the lyrics were horrible, and the DVD itself looked like it had been filmed by a middle school film class. There was one good song on the EP, whichever one had the cheap video of ABK sittin on the porch, cant remember the name.
3) Twiztid – Man's Myth + Mutant – I count em both as one album, and they were both not that great. i dont blame twiztid, i blame Fritz. let's face it, Fritz was not that good of a producer. he lost his touch after any work that came out after 2003.
4) Twiztid – CC4(or 5 to some) – the content itself was excellent, but this wasnt no rare exclusive shit, it was all rehashed music from the earlier catalog, and some of these albums are not that hard to find if you take your lazy ass to amazon.com or hatchetgear.com. I refused to buy it because it was a rip off album, basically a way for Twiztid to make a quick buck off of the newer naive fans.
5) ICP – Featured Freshness – same argument as the CC album for Twiztid above
6) ICP – Hell's Pit – Mike P and Esham shouldve been the ONLY producers working with ICP on this record. Fritz, once again, fucked this record up with his repetitive beats and boring sounds.
6:49 pm

March 31, 2012
Ypsi Foolish said:
3) Twiztid – Man's Myth + Mutant – I count em both as one album, and they were both not that great. i dont blame twiztid, i blame Fritz. let's face it, Fritz was not that good of a producer. he lost his touch after any work that came out after 2003.
during the “fritz era” mans myth was the album he did the least production on… nonetheless i disagree mans myth is twiztids 2nd best album imo…
Ypsi Foolish said:
6) ICP – Hell's Pit – Mike P and Esham shouldve been the ONLY producers working with ICP on this record. Fritz, once again, fucked this record up with his repetitive beats and boring sounds.
i strongly disagree with this one as well.. the 2 fritz joints have always been my 2 fav tracks on that album.. idk how 2 songs can fuck up an entire LP tho..
6:56 pm
Mike E clark is bringin the clowns down. i am not feeling his style of production since he came back. at the time when Mike P took over, everyone was yellin 4 mike clark to come back, but to be honest, Mike P was an essential part of some psychopathic records classics, “One Less G”, “Dark Lotus tales from the lotus” and shagri la was dope as fuck! it was well rounded, alot of the other joker cards can get monotone after a while, i love milenko but its on so high a pedastool with juggalos and i dont really think its all that. i liked when icp more when twiztid and blaze were coming around.
Mike E clark's beats are just terrible, too glossy and positive and its not wat we wanna hear in this shitty era of pop music pumpin techno all day. we just want some extreme shit. hells pit is boo boo. its got terrible beats, and theres not one track that stands out as a single or anything. it fell flat for all the hype juggalos were giving it. most people just automatically hated shangri la cuz it was gonna be released first and we knew we had 2 wait for hells pit for a while.
when everyone heard shangri la and the track “hells forcast” or watever everyone was geeked. but hells pit had weird ass beats, some are ok but nothing classic sorry. shangri la had “homies”, “aint yo bidness”, “hells forcast”, even “ravens mirror” is sick, “it rains diamonds”. its not as bubble gum as people like 2 make it out to be. its got plenty of dark shit. most juggalos just say i like hells put cuz its the cool thing 2 do or they think it gives them more credibility. “mr johnsons head” is more wicked that all of hells pit as a whole. bowling balls is the worst track ever by them, that beat is fucking garbage. idk why esham, fritz and ICP picked some of those tracks. they wrote great lyrics when u read it from the book, first day i bought i played it through as i was reading the lyrics and just realized how terrible the overall songs came out, good lyrics, terrible beats.
idk why jeckyl bros gets hate, “everybody rize”, “mad professor”, “play with me”, “fuck the world”, “echos side” damn those are heaters, fuckin shaggy show and bitches were funny as hell. i stab people was dope. hells pit was a let down. mike clark hasnt delivered anything good since returning, his remixes ruin the tracks like “homies” and “CPKs” the vocals are off beat like a mothafucka! and that “I Shot A Hater” with 36 mafia is so non existent in my playlist, they finally collabed again and it really sucked.
7:03 pm
shangri la was the best era ever for being a juggalo, J was so motivated and proud of his work and it reflected in the music. he was revamped when he started smoking weed. he didnt blaze during the bizaar era, even on the kmk high society collab he said they smoke bud, i smoke little white things. he passed on grass until blaze got him faded. shangri la was so much fun as a fan, all those Shaggy shows with them on the bus talkin about their history in music and how its raining diamonds on them, it was so cool.
and im sick of the bizzar bizzar hate, it has some of the most creative ICP songs ive ever heard. “radio stars” was epic. how do u come up with an idea like that and be able to pull it off! that must have been a lot of work recording, editing… just that song alone had so much going on. “take me away” is my favorite icp song ever, its that classic dark carnival theme, J and Shaggs verses were dope, it had a good chorus and that mike clark beat was classic. its one of the most underrated tracks from them ever, i hate “chicken huntin” and pretty much all of ringmaster, sorry im not gonna just say i like it 2 be cool, its ok i like “southwest song” and a couple others, milenko gets a little boring after awhile, it was before they mastered their rock style and made their albums more diverse which i love about the 2001-2004 catalog.
7:09 pm
As far as Mike E Clark and ICP saying MDP and BPB were old beats from Mike E Clarks library, i call bullshit. I think they just said that to get the OG fans interested cuz we know Mike Clark was putting beats to the side for the 6th, and J and Shaggs were putting songs to the side to save for the 6th, but even i think thats a little fishy. i think they said CPKs or something was a track they did with mike clark a long time ago and saved it or something like that. its just cool 2 see everyones opinions cuz we all love their music so much that we hate when an album is a letdown, but we all get suckered into buying it becuz we are all juggalo hoarders, we are addicted to their fresh ass cd covers and want that booklet! i hate downloading their music cuz its missing the artwork which is essential, i have so many albums from the hatchet i never listened 2 twice but the artwork draws u in lol
7:22 pm

March 31, 2012
8:43 pm
Mike C:
I don't agree with a lot of your opinions, i do with others, it's cool having different oppinions.
The only thing i think you are wrong is in blaming MEC for this new sound that you don't like. I think he's trying hard to innovate and J in particular is akin to the happy sound (he encouraged that sound from Shangri-La until now, no matter who produced the tracks).
The problem, as Yay Yay said, is that the clowns themselves are not bringing fresh lyrics, cool concepts, stories on the booklets. They are sleeping on their game -they are too centered in promoting, not in creating- while MEC is working hard to bring new shit. You (and others) don't like his approach? J and Shaggs are ok with it and they let him go ahead because they know he's (at this time) more motivated than them in the music.
10:18 pm
I just think J has the feeling that working with Mike Clark gives them a blanket that fans will never say its wack cuz we were bitchin and moaning for years online during the Mike P era to bring back Mike Clark. and i never really wanted mike clark back cuz during the 2001 to 2004 Mike P was producing new classics and was bringing in the modern era psychopathic sound. mike clark was away during some high points on the label, Hatchet Rising was almost the peak of the ICP / Twiztid era. now we are heading back to a ICP only era.
Mike E Clark seems 2 be a little greedy like when he produces an ICP album he has to do the WHOLE album or nothing at all so he gets paid. i wish they could split up the duties but i dont wanna see Kuma produce anymore. opaque brotherhood is terrible, i dont blame mono for producing his own beats for twiztid on HH cuz the inhouse beat makers were lagging, you know they had to pay some decent money to get Seven & i respect twiztid for doing that, they knew we wanted a quality album
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