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June 4, 2012
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whats fucked up too is that PSY makes it seem that if these artists leave psychopathic, they wont be able to make it on their own, due to the fact that there are a LOT of juggalos that wont even listen to the music unless it has a hatchetman on the back. look at the backlash that happened when ABK left the label, even to this day, ABK has a hard time filling concert venues- but prior to all that business mumbo jumbo that made him leave, he couldve filled venues with little promotion.

 

yeah word times have changed tho who knows if his shows wouldve decreased while staying on psy & dox has gotten 99% support on his departure which is like a 180 from what abk got

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June 4, 2012
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How is Psychopathic responsible for an artist doing good or bad after they leave the label. I've never seen Psychopathic release an ill statement towards any former artist. AA released a statement when Escam left and it never said anything same with motherfucking ABK and Boondox. Now the ABK went a different direction after he left and when he came back motherfuckers said fuck him. When ABK released Mudface that was by far his best work with Psychopathic. Psychopathic promoted it made a video and gear and not many people bought it because the fans said FUCK HIM! Y'all are the reason why an artist fails on a label. Boondox left and Psychopathic also wished him the best. Now let's see what happens with him. I've said this once and i'll say it again. It's the fans sole purpose of buying and criticizing what an artist releases. It's also the fans sole purpose of helping to promote an artist when they have a tour or release coming out. The label can only promote so much and the artist as well.

June 4, 2012
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the fuck are you high on psy havent said shit about dox leaving & mudface was his worst on psy imo

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June 4, 2012
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The Psychopathic twitter did say Boondox is off the label they never said anything good or bad about him. But the point of my post is literally saying it's not just the labels fault it's also the douche bags fans fault. I've promoted artist who desrve to be promoted by posting videos, exclusive singles and upcoming tours. On the other hand people want to see the label focusing on a single artist that has a release coming out. Most labels only have enough time to focus on one artist for set periods of time. Everything else is up to the fans. You don't buy the gear money wasted, you don't buy a cd or ticket it's money wasted. But it's the labels fault. Hey most people are ignorant against the truth and speak as if they were former employees.

June 4, 2012
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oh lol well who checks twitter

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June 4, 2012
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I admit I got mad, but that comment "Juggalos dont like black artists" pissed me off & I went into smart ass mode & for that I say sorry. All I was saying is saying that made about as much sence as saying the Gathering of the Nations heats natives. The white comments made perfect sence tho, what I was sayin was its not just black guys who are former Psychopathic artists. Matter of fact, more white artists have come & gone on Psychopathic then black. Skin color has nothing to do with them not being on Psy no more

 

As for saying artists like R.O.C., Esham & other former artists not getting support like they did when on the Hatchet, thats cause it gets harder to find thier albums & shit. Like me personally i love ABK, but I dont have any albums between his time off of Psychopathic, not cause I dont have it but because its hard as fuck to find some of thier stuff. Same with R.O.C. & others. Most juggalos dont care if its on Psychopathic or not, yeah thier are sheepalos and clown boys who think it has to be about Psychopathic & nothing else, but Im talking about all juggalos. Everytime I here all these artits brought up, I here a lot of positivity with very little negativity. I go to all kinds of juggalo fourms, websites, facebook groups, juggalo websites, Im not tryin to brag cause it prolly makes me seem more sad then anything, Im just saying Im literally talking about hundreds & hundreds of juggalos & juggalettes Ive talked to over the years, not just me and a few friends. As for ABK, Ive heard a few ninjas hate on him leaving and coming back, but most juggalos were happy to have him back on the Hatchet. Leaving Psychopathic & dissing juggalos are two very different things. Most juggalos realise that, besides the clown boys & sheepalos

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i wasnt aware former artist was ever being discussed in here with the exception of tdf & their stance with psy

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June 4, 2012
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lol I know but these  threads never stay on topic

June 6, 2012
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im not saying that PSY would intentionally sabotage someone's career if they left the label, but there are a lot of PSY sheep that are so loyal to the hatchet(maybe a little TOO loyal), that once an artist leaves- thats that! record sales plummet, shows get cancelled, records dont come out- and if they do they dont sell.

 

...ABK had a show at the blind pig in ann arbor last week and i counted MAYBE 30 people in attendance. i still had a kickass time though, ABK knows how to throw it down- i was just shocked that the place wasnt full of juggalos. when blaze played that same venue back in 2010 he SOLD THAT BITCH OUT.

 

and i agree,,,Mudface was ABK's WORST record....but Medicine Bag is one of his BEST records next to Hatchet Warrior

June 6, 2012
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i feel dirty history was his best medicine bag was the best psy album of 2010 tho imo

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June 6, 2012
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What's wrong with Mudface? Grind 2 The Flow was an actual hip hop sounding track. Mommy's doin' drugs was a funny track. What you want from me was a head nod mosh pit track. U ain't no killa was a mosh pit track. Same Thing 2 was a funny track. Point it's a dope record and no one liked it cause it was his return record. No denying Medicine Bag and Hatchet Warrior but Mudface is still a great record.

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oh i like that album allot it had to grow on me tho after quite a bit of spins but i fuck with most of those songs & only dislike a few still tho id rank it as his least best in comparison to the rest of his psy albums

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June 6, 2012
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Dirty History was by far my favorite ABK album.

June 8, 2012
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Carnivalkilla44 said:

Dirty History was by far my favorite ABK album.

 

 

My car was broken into in 2005 and my dirty history CD was GONE. i like dirty history too,,,,its not better than medicine bag though.

June 8, 2012
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My best guess is DTF probably got internal stuff going on(its been like that before psy) and they put doing stuff as a group on the backburner for what its worth COI was solid but not as good az what's on my mind or FBI

June 14, 2012
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I don't think it's that juggalos don't accept black rappers at all. I just think most serious black rappers want nothing to do with horrorcore and the wicked shit in general.

I would love it if T.o.n.e.z. Was signed to Psy, he's a beast and does good tracks ... But that will never happen. It is what it is.

June 14, 2012
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I can't listen to ABK because all I hear is his lisp. Am I shallow ... Probably. But fuck him, his silly voice, and his missing gross digit. Lol.

June 14, 2012
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Damnit PSY is as far from horrorcore as you can get!!!!!!!!!!!!! What don't yall understand?!!!!

June 14, 2012
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Damnit PSY is as far from horrorcore as you can get!!!!!!!!!!!!! What don't yall understand?!!!!

Psy is horrorcore. They always have been. Wicked shit, horrorcore, horror rap, bloody murder music, acid rap ... All the same thing. What don't you understand.

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