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Hatchetman
Super Early guesses on the 3rd Jokers Card
August 17, 2012
9:13 pm
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LOL I know it's like 2 years too early and the 2nd jokers Card has just dropped and still sinking in to our decayed brains, but I'm already wondering what the 3rd Jokers Card theme will be about (well we know the overall message but specifically).

With Death Pop being a pretty good album with the theme and the flow I wonder if the 3rd can top it?

I expect more new sounding beats (hoping mixed in with some old school flavor)

I doubt will get that old school “Horrocore”

I hope there is a little more serious subject matters, Real shit, but at the same time some wicked stories ala Blasta and Bazooka Joey

Don't wanna hear 3-4 tracks about religion or God…keep that for the Shangri-la 2 album and Hell's Pit 2.  This is why I like COC, Ringmaster and Riddlebox because no one knew what the overall message really was on those album. Just straight up wicked shit. It wasn't til Milenko that we hear the words Shangri-la and the overall picture started to become clearer. But since we know now, you can bet there will be that slow emotional song and some sort of Juggalo song. I want wicked stories. Real and not real. I can see ICP doing a track or mentioning about the Movie theater shooting and now some fucker in Georgia was about to copy cat. What about people that were suspect of a murder but found not guilty and no one has the answer..ala Casey anthony and O.J. Simpson??

Will we see a jokers Card in the form of a female ever?

August 17, 2012
9:21 pm
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building up expectations based on nothing whatever is why juggalos keep saying shit like, 'this new album doesnt sound anything like i thought it would.'

whatever comes out next, i bet it will sound like j, shaggs, mike and legs think it should.  good enough for me. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

August 17, 2012
9:36 pm
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I don't usually speculate, but the first two cards of this hand have both had onomatopoeidic titles. Maybe it'll be a trend.

Also, both BPB and MDP's faces loosely resemble the symbol of chaos. Kinda hoping they stray away from eight pointed shapes for the next.

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August 17, 2012
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thats got to be the first time any juggalo in history has referenced onomatopoeia in a public setting.  

maybe the next album will be The Stupendous KLANG!!!  or, The Astounding BONK!!! 

but i hope not. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

August 17, 2012
9:59 pm
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I'm fucking special like that.

I think they pulled it off just fine with the first two. The titles were relevant to the purpose of the characters. I guess Bang! Pow! Boom! wasn't the most imaginitive name, but damn if them ain't some explody noises.

If the trend continues, they should have a card involving “honk” because they're clowns, goddamnit.

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August 17, 2012
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Me and one of my homies were talking about this a few months back. We were joking about the next album being called Snap Crackle Pop. Here's an idea, a pollution album. Like The Smog, but a whole album with that moral. They can call it “The Catastrophic Poot”.

August 17, 2012
10:16 pm
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I've kind of thought of the joker's cards as an urban contemporary reimagining of the four hoursemen, just with a few extra… But mostly they only involve death. Maybe they should branch out start taking influence from the other three. I don't expect they will, but I'm just saying it couldn't hurt.

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August 17, 2012
10:35 pm
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i don't think the 3rd will take that long 2014 the lastest

August 17, 2012
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Naw mang, we ain't gonna make it to 2014. It's all gonna end this year, 'cause what ICP actually meant is that once all eight have risen, the end of time will consume us all. Two more cards down bro, 6+2=8. 2012. It all comes out to the number 23!

I hope no one takes this seriously.

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August 18, 2012
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Lol. Someone will … I still remember all the 17 conspiracy theories and total bullshit people made up during the first six.

Never if you went to the gathering and myself and scruff didn’t get to meet you, I’m bummed. You’d fit into our circle of friends without a hitch, based solely on your postings.

August 18, 2012
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I was chatting about this the other day with a friend, and the one concept that we both thought was the most interesting for a theme (baring in mind that neither of us have any clue what the hell we're talking about as we're not Joe or Joey) was something to do with love and loss.

The 'Tunnel of Love' sideshow (EP, whatever) had this concept, and you could also say Twiztid's 'Heartbroken & Homicidal' trod similar ground.  But with songs like “Vera Lee” and “Hate Her To Death” showing a deeper, romantic side to ICP's lyrics of late, and with the theme of love not having been explored in the Joker Card mythos, it isn't outside the realms of possibility that a Joker Card with this kind of background could be on the horizon.

Think about it; ICP are approaching their 40's, they have kids, have been in relationships, and have had more than 20 years of Juggalos behind them, supporting their art and showing them love.  But also during this time, they have seen that love taken away or warped into something altogether different and more disturbing.  Plenty of lessons learned from all this and more, and the value of love is sadly losing its power in this day and age.

I don't know, I offer this up to you guys to ponder.  I'm curious what you think!

August 18, 2012
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Lol. Someone will … I still remember all the 17 conspiracy theories and total bullshit people made up during the first six.Never if you went to the gathering and myself and scruff didn’t get to meet you, I’m bummed. You’d fit into our circle of friends without a hitch, based solely on your postings.

I would love to have gone to a gathering, but I’ve never been. Actually, I’ve never even been to an ICP concert. I’m broke and way too far away from any major city. So there’s that. But yeah, ya’ll guys seem pretty chill.

 

… and the one concept that we both thought was the most interesting for a theme […] was something to do with love and loss.

 

I don’t know, I think they’d catch a lot of backlash for something like that. And they probably know it. Every deck of cards has the suit of hearts, but they’re hand is more of a flush suited spades. If they want to win this game, they have to stick to their hand and avoid changing plans on the second draw. Basically, the Joker’s Cards have mostly dealt with mortality, morals and the afterlife. Death and justice, and if they recorded an entire album entailing love, lust and loss and slapped a clown painted heart on the cover, I think they’d lose a lot of fans. I’d still be down, I don’t give a shit, but a lot of juggalos already seem to be on shakey grounds.

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August 18, 2012
6:27 pm
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MC_Cryptid said:

I was chatting about this the other day with a friend, and the one concept that we both thought was the most interesting for a theme (baring in mind that neither of us have any clue what the hell we're talking about as we're not Joe or Joey) was something to do with love and loss.

The 'Tunnel of Love' sideshow (EP, whatever) had this concept, and you could also say Twiztid's 'Heartbroken & Homicidal' trod similar ground.  But with songs like “Vera Lee” and “Hate Her To Death” showing a deeper, romantic side to ICP's lyrics of late, and with the theme of love not having been explored in the Joker Card mythos, it isn't outside the realms of possibility that a Joker Card with this kind of background could be on the horizon.

Think about it; ICP are approaching their 40's, they have kids, have been in relationships, and have had more than 20 years of Juggalos behind them, supporting their art and showing them love.  But also during this time, they have seen that love taken away or warped into something altogether different and more disturbing.  Plenty of lessons learned from all this and more, and the value of love is sadly losing its power in this day and age.

I don't know, I offer this up to you guys to ponder.  I'm curious what you think!

Makes for an interesting idea and I think J and Shags could pull it off, Jamie and Paul certainly did on H&H. Hell they could even use that as a chance to have a more feminine looking card or some shit. Add in some classic temptation and obsession themes, the things people will do in the name of love, it could definitely work.

August 18, 2012
6:42 pm
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Hey, the Wraith could’a been a chick, we don’t know. I mean, look at its fingernails. Feminism in a Joker's Card, boomf, right there.

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August 18, 2012
10:13 pm
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the Big Blackout..could be about the sudden loss of all technology and the crazy shit that would happen i.e. post-apocalypse. would be something very fresh and new concept from the wicked clowns

 

hell i dunno, maybe this sounds more like a 6th joker card but im liking that idea

August 18, 2012
11:00 pm
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A female joker’s card with a love/heartbreak/revenge/temptation/obsession/stalking theme to it is a really good idea. Plus that concept hits home with everyone, boy or girl, anyway. What drives people crazier than love? lol ICP haven’t tackled a full LP like that yet and a joker’s card exhibit would be just the one for it. Good idea! Tunnel of Love is an all time ICP classic.

August 19, 2012
12:28 am
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My thoughts on the 3rd of the second deck….

It will look similar to the riddle box….. meaning the face will not be long…It will be shorter in shape.

It will have some form of explosive name.

It will have in the name either Great or Amazing

and i believe they are going in the reverse from the first 6…. meaning the first 6 went wicked to not so wicked and these new 6 are going from not so wicked to wicked…also they are starting to sound more like the wicked clowns from the first 6 more and more….Also the tempo of the new tracks are starting to get slower like the first 4 of the original 6..Just my opinion…MCL Fam 

August 19, 2012
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i really dont get the point of all this.  you might as well be speculating on what your grandsons favorite movie will be. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

August 19, 2012
2:23 am
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The 3rd joker's card will be average at best just like the tempest, the calm, bpb and tmdp. J wil be 43 and shaggs will be 40. They both have kids and wives/baby mommas. Theyre done, washed up, the real “wicked shit” died around the amazing jeckel bros imo. They shit out random shit now and “juggalos” eat it up no matter what it sounds like and J and Shaggs know this. These guys are lazy, putting out multiple albums every release to get more record sales. If you've been down as long as me, u know deep down inside that these guys have been taking advantage of a solid fanbase for 10+ years. Let the sheepalos hate…………

August 19, 2012
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Richy, that's your opinion, not a fact. If you don't feel their newer efforts, you don't have to listen. That's your choice. I'm sure there are plenty of juggalos who only buy ICP's latest shit because, yes, they have some deep seeded loyalty to the group. Those who aren't feeling it just as much as you, but continue to buy it anyway. I don't think that makes them sheepalo, though, I think that means they're just hanging on, hoping to find something new they can connect with again. But just because you don't like something doesn't mean someone else can't genuinely enjoy it. Whatever, call me a sheepalo, but I like Mighty Death Pop. Quite a bit. Maybe this is juggalo blasphemy, if there's such a thing, but I believe I'd rate MDP higher than I would Carnival of Carnage or even The Ringmaster. I don't care if that lost my opinion any credibility, that's just how I feel. Because lyrically, they've grown. They're far more articulate on Death Pop and the rhymes aren't so simple as they were when ICP was fresh into the game. Musically, I still think I'd give the edge to MDP over the first two joker cards, Mike's also grown as a producer. By the way, this isn't hate, this is just my opinion and I don't pass it off as a fact.

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