PunkRockJuggalo said:

shaggy is still the shit weather or not he writes his lyrics or not 

 

fuck the fuck off is still one of  my top10 albums psychopathic has put out

I agree man! plus bazooka joey is like my fav song on the mighty death pop. 

I regularly jam to FTFO too.

Plus ghost wirting doesn't bother me as long as you got talent on the mic! 

Take blaze for example, he can write his own stuff and do it well. 

But madrox does most of his work and blaze is still the shit. 

basically shaggy is J's music instrument. he hands him lyrics and tells him when to rap. then once shaggy is done he's off to the bar, while J completes the song.

BillBurr said:

i wonder how they split up the royalties and shit...an 80/20 split on the $ would probably be fair

shaggy doesnt do a thing more than the bare minimal that will be excepted.outside of icp events he has to attend, you see zero fan interaction, interviews, or shits given.i dont know how that cant bother J when hes outhere defending the label, the band and every aspect of what they do by himself

ever since you guys enlightened me to J writing some of his material, my respect for shaggy has def diminished.

 

Ive ran into him several times on the humble with and without paint at the parking lot party the night before the gathering..he was mixing it up with ninjas having a good time...hes always been more accessible the J imo

And its Joey YOU-stler, it ain't no Joseph fuckin UT-stler hahaha

The more i hink about it and hatento admit it, i think shaggy is starting to get fed up, watch ome interviews, newer ones. Js paint is 100% immaculatly done but shaggys is done really weakly. You can see its only put on real lightly, and off coloured.
He cant get details in sideways around j, and he seems more interested in fan interaction than the music. Seems like the clown paint is taking its toll on him.
God saves us all if shaggy retires before j dies, cos clearly j will die rapping and trying to run a record label with an iron fist.

I noticed shaggs face paint slacking too. It could be because he don't care. But I know most people tend to eat unhealthy in the firsr couple years after kicking an addiction. His face paint could look like that due to a bad diet resulting in a oily complection

It's odd how some people feel cheated that ICP is not a 50/50 dynamic. Most music groups are not, and how in the hell could you fairly judge what Shaggy has contributed anyways? What difference does it make? No one bitches that Violent J does not contribute any artwork. That (was) all Shaggy.

BillBurr said:

by "zero fan interaction" i didnt mean when they have a show, he blows the fans off, i meant when the lights go off and the shows over dude does zero to interact with fans, no interviews, no social interaction...nothing that he doesnt 100% have to do cause it's icp related.

 

could say "blah he hates technology, he has a family blahblah"...but in reality, THIS is his career/only occupation.dude could easily make the time to pop up here and there if he really gave a shit about the fans, excuse me, "family"

 

i dont know how it couldent frustrate J that he is basically the face and backbone of icp...theyre barely even a duo, more like a solo artist and hypeman

Have you seen a family underground? outside of 'public appearances' you dont ever really see J intereacting with the fans, where as shaggy is out destroying golf carts with fans. im sorry but if that aint fan interaction i dont know what is.

J is a controlling person you can see that if you pay attention. he loves the spotlight, shaggy less so. shaggy seems more about kickin it with the fans without all the bullshit of the cameras in his face.