Thing about tech n9ne is that he DOES owe the majority of his fanbase to ICP, as well as his entire business model. Look at his career before he was touring with them, he was essentially a local rapper that a few people outside of KC knew about. He started touring with psychopathic and pretty much copied their entire business model for strange. The ONLY reason they get more credit then psychopathic does is because they have done alot of mainstream tracks. People also say strange signs more people and that makes them more successful. Not Hardly, they lose just as many artists as psychopathic does, and they have quantity over quality and their fans know it. Nobody buys big scoob, young bleed, kutt calhoun,stevie stone,jay rock,records, Tech is the ICP of the label, Kaliko is the twiztid, prozak is the blaze, and everyone else on strange is the ABK. A friend of mine took me to a kutt calhoun show a month or two back, there were MAYBE 50 people there, and half of them didnt even stay to watch his set.Without touring nonstop the label would be out of business, not to mention their merch is nowhere near the level of psychopathic and also quite a bit more of a rip off. Go to stranges webstore, they are charging 24.99 for welcome to strangelande, 19 for stevie stones,19 for big scoobs. That shows you that they didnt make enough money off them initially so now they have to recoup that money,thats not even counting shipping.now go to hatchet gear the cd prices range between 9 to 15 dollars, even for brand new releases, so whos really ripping their fans off more?

Now thats just the business end of it, if you want to get into music its even more cut and dry. As much as i like alot of techs work, post everready he has 4 song topics, 1.I'm so much more different then everyone else,2.I'm so much cooler then everyone else,3.I Fuck Bitches,4.I Party. Occasionally he will do something like "the noose" but even then he cant resist the urge to throw in some line about his sexual prowess. Then he claims people who dont like sex songs dont get laid. Not really dude, i am a grown ass heterosexual man,i dont want to hear another grown ass man tell me how good he is at fucking, the only people that should be into sex songs are fucking women who get wet at the thought of having the artist do that to them. A Occasional sex song is cool, but come on, out of every 10 songs tech makes, 5 are sex songs. ICP on the other hand, take a look at mighty death pop, every song on all four discs is a different topic,thats true creativity right there. Creating your own words and babbling some incoherent jibberish in the middle of a song like tech does isnt creativity,its just being a fucking asshole.Also take each artists worst music, ICP's worst music is light years more enjoyable then techs most redundant garbage like "wheaties","pornographic","Fuck food" and that new stinker "boy toy"from EBAH. He may not like the beats they choose, but thats because the beats he likes are generic and fucking asinine. They choose creative beats that they can have fun over.

i wish people really knew what was going on.....not that tech doesnt owe the majority of his fanbase to icp but, he was not just a local rapper from kc before wicked wonka. check how many units of anghellic and absolute power he sold before 2003. he was HUGE in the midwest back then. strange music is selling a lot more units of kali, scoob, prozak, mayday, etc than u think. they may not draw the huge crowds that tech does (and yea there solo shows are embarrassing) but they are extremely talented and with recent major success of strange this year they will be selling much more.

tech built strange based off psychopathic after he and j became friends in 2003 and icp showed him how. same shit wack ass kottonmouth kings did with sub noize back in the late 90's. people need to quit hating. its all about music, entertainment, and making money.psychopathic better get some young cats on the label before its too late, icp, twiztid, blaze and killa wont last forever....maybe 60 years old. oh wait most juggalos wont let psychoapthic be a record label just a constant music making company, same line up....theyve tried to add shit and u close minded motherfuckers just cant see past the bullshit. i love psychopathic, i love strange music and they have both been releasing heat lately so im happy...

not saying they are selling a shit ton, im just saying ur a fucking hater and u have no real reason to hate. open up ur horizen and enjoy music beyond one genre. tech's albums have a plethora of different styles and sounds. there was almost as much hardcore/wicked shit on all 6's and 7's as there was on anghellic. absolute power (one of his best) was designed to blow him up. how do u think icp sold a million???? shockumentary on MTV. u think icp woulda turned down mtv if they came to them and wanted them the way they were? fuck naw! u can make music or whatever ur thing is for free, why not? fuck a pay check im underground. grow the fuck up and get real. underground means broke until u develop a following usually through some big song/album/promotion. whatever...

I listen to everything from phil collins to icp, from sepultura to seal, from bone thugs n harmony to black label society. So dont try to tell me "open my horizon" Tech may have had different styles of song, but they still came down to those 4 song topics i mentioned...........its not hating, i am just pointing out that he relys entirely too much on coming up with silly ways to say words and spitting a line of gibberish in the middle of his verse to make his shit sound unique, lyrically hes making the same kinda music as everyone else on the radio

The Warlock said:

funny how when lil wayne said he wanted to do a track with tech he immediately "found a beat for him" haha

yeah , i kinda get what he is saying about the beat being right. for icp to be good they need to have some control over the track. u know what i mean? otherwise there verses always sound rushed on other peoples albums....

Strange is not making more money then psy. Don't be fooled.