The woman crying at the end of "body drop"... It was funny the first time.

Also the chick crying in hed pe's "stepping stone".... Sounds like the same person

Come to think of it, there's only a few situations where forcing skits into songs really work that I can think of. Maybe it doesn't bother anyone else as much, idk. I just feel like it ruins the flow of a lot of otherwise good songs.

Chevy2Dope said

Man, I love Ghost. I saw them live a few months ago for the first time, their show is incredible. Anyway, I just listened to Life Eternal again because I've never noticed what you're saying. Still don't actually. 

But anyway, ICP's song "Out There" is dope as fuck...mostly. The beat is fuckin awesome. J's verse is great as is the chorus that he does. Shaggy is just "ok". But the real problem is Bushwick Bill. That guy seems to have no fuckin clue where the beat is and really takes away from an otherwise cool and unique ICP song. 

I also have to admit I've always been bothered by Shaggy's parts in "Rainbows & Stuff". I've always oddly enjoyed the weirdness of the song but Shaggy's post-chorus over the top screaming is annoying to me. It's so uncreative and adds nothing to the song. Which is weird because Shaggy does that sort of thing on a lot of songs (such as Dead Body Man, Play With Me, etc) and it's usually cool. Just not in this case.   

Bushwick Bill, lol. In that track, it sounds like the beat itself is aghast at how the human is rapping on it. Like it wants to run away, but can't.

I like Bushwick, though. His offbeat style works for the better sometimes. But yeah, "Out There" was quite detracting an experience around those bars.

Chevy2Dope said

Man, I love Ghost. I saw them live a few months ago for the first time, their show is incredible. Anyway, I just listened to Life Eternal again because I've never noticed what you're saying. Still don't actually.   

its when Cardi C says "can you feel my Loooonging, forever" He goes just high enough, and just whiny enough, for it to throw off an otherwise perfect fucking song.

https://youtu.be/Ll-QIDU1xzk?t=22

Old Mr Dangerous said
In general, people need to leave the big horror icons alone. Freddy, Michael, Jason, Leatherface... they've been used way too much to try to sound scary on a track. Chucky even has his Bushwick Bill song.

Maybe go for more obscure monsters. Even Pinhead and the Cenobites, Candyman, and such are a step in the right direction. But more obscure, far more. 

I was delighted when Blaze shouted out Randall Flagg of The Stand. I wonder if he wrote that rhyme or did Madrox.

But yeah, no more horror icons. It's lazy.  

No one has ever done Pinhead and the Cenobitical Order of The Gash justice in a horrorcore track, and I doubt anyone ever will. Tons of people have used their image in vain, though. Twiztid and Razakel, for example. Mastamind did a passable homage with "Pinhead", I guess.

And, Juggalo Island. Hate that song. The schoolyard existentialism of Miracles aside, BPB is a fairly dark record, even at its most playful, and remains my favorite of the new deck. I enjoy playing it end to end until that song hits.

Aside from being corny, its sandwiched right in between I'mma Kill U and Vultures, two tracks with the classic ICP motif of shitty human beings getting what they deserve. The sudden upswing to a cheery, tacky-ass Juggalo flavored Beach Boys tribute is jarring and awkward, and the record plays better without it in my opinion. And I don't give a fuck if it reminds people of The Gathering- I disliked it when they sneak previewed it there, and I loathe it on that record. 

Tales From the Lotus Pod Redux is the child I've disowned, and ABK's hook on Juggalo Family is its inbred mistake that I will perpetually shame for existing. Aside from simply being not as good as the original (which had my heart from play 1 as a down for life Juggalo anthem), it's a sloppy and stupid dilution of the original.

"Say what you will of me" speaks of simply not giving a fuck where the following statement leads. This is what it is, and nothing changes that. 

"Until eternity" says...nothing. Eternity being time without end, there it no until. It's not "for all eternity", it is, "until", which is impossible in the endless stream of past, present and future that encompasses the idea. It's a non statement, and a stupid one at that. But it's not even "until eternity", it's

" unTIL eternitEeeEEee" with the last part nasally and obnoxiously stretched so that it sounds like ABK grunting out a shit. You can't unhear it either, and as the version they play live, it throws me out of my moment even when I'm feeling the rest of the song. I lock in like how Murderface locks onto his grandma chewing, on some shit.

Bump there's some new shit most definitely.