I never really gave both albums a chance, only really bothered to listen to the songs that got videos and vomit/juggalo party when they were released a singles.. really should give the albums a proper listen..

I liked Found a lot more than Lost. We knew to expect a more "positive" album so I think I managed my expectations of the album properly. That being said, there's still a number of tracks on the album I can take or leave and didn't really have much desire to have repeat listens of the album outside of a handful of tracks. Lost had several tracks I outright thought were pretty bad, especially for a Joker Card. 

I did like that there was more variety in the beats than on Lost. Lost got to a point where I could barely distinguish one track from the next as to where Found didn't suffer that same thing. Found I think was less heavy on Young Wicked production as well and I tend not to be a fan of his style for ICP, though I have to give props for Lost At The Carnival. That beat could have been on Milenko. ICP could have done better with their verses but overall I dig that one a lot. 

Old Mr Blasphemous said
Splice it up a bit and combine Lost with Found and there could've been a super solid Jokers Card right there. Of course, gotta pick from The Outtakes and Phantom, but that's another thread altogether.   

Honestly, the Outtakes had some of the best shit. I can only assume that they felt those songs just didn't really fit the overall vibe of either "Lost" or "Found" as the reason why they weren't actually on those albums. Like The Dream, The Monster, Six Pedophiles, Joey The Butcher, and a few more are truly some of the best stuff they've done in this 2nd deck. I've even said before that if ICP were to release their final album, their final track could have been The Carousel just maybe with a bit more meaningful words from Shaggy as opposed to what he does at the end. 

I actually didn't like Phantom as much as others seemed to have overall, but, the title track itself is the fuckin bomb. The beat, the hook, and the overall vibe of it is what I want to hear more out of from ICP. It was produced by Seven. You can just look at that beat and the remix he did of The Witch and be like damn, why the fuck don't they use him more? 

I said it when it dropped & I still feel "Found" is their best album in a long time.. Tempest was probably their last album that really gives "Found" some competition.. 3rd place would be BPB..

Old Mr Blasphemous said

 I just barely ever play it.   

that's how I am now..

Tempest & BPB were the last projects i let grow on me.. now if i dont like it at 1st, i really dont go back to it..

Carnivalkilla44 said

This mimics my feelings exactly. BPB is the last record of theirs I can play all the way through. Since then,  the only album I have given significant playtime is MDP. While I like tracks off MML, FFF and Yum Yum I can see myself never really bumping them again.  I don't care to.

It makes me wonder if it's just really me growing out of it. If BPB was the album just released, would I be feeling it?  

Interesting thought. 

If Riddlebox or Shangri-La or Terror Wheel were released now, would we dig them as much?

Amazing what time does to us.

No denying it was a "low point" for them musically. I mean, despite his decent production skills, involving Otis so much in the music definitely gave MML (primarily Lost) a mundane feel. It just wasn't someone that should've had so much creative control in projects as revered as Joker's Cards. Best save Otis for smaller roles and side projects, if anything. 

Still love Found, though. And like 3 or 4 Lost tracks. 

Noawareness said

Lost feels like ICP really trying hard to capture a dark/angry sound, when in reality, they wanted to make positive songs. Young Wicked's singing is so fucking cringe too (on both albums). The only songs on Lost that I can stomach are Falling Apart and maybe Vomit.

Even though I can see why people wouldnt like songs on Found because some people really hate that upbeat ICP shit and genuinely want dark Hells Pit type shit from newer ICP (because we will never get anything pre-shangrila again), I cant see why Found gets so much hate. 

As far as positive ICP goes, I cant see what they could have done better (at that point in their careers). Production is clean, both J and Shaggy sound fresh, it feels natural. It feels like the type of music they actually want to be making. As corny as songs like Mr White Suit, OK, Im Sweet and The World Is Yours are, they sound miles better than anything on Lost. 

Does everyone hate it just because its "sunshine and happiness" ICP or is it something else?

I cant say why others hate Found, but I personally dislike half of the songs because they sound cheap and not-so-well produced to me. Maybe it simply doesnt fit my taste of music. I dont really mind their corny lyrics (however I've to admit that I like their darker stuff better), but listen to OK, Mr. White Suit or Juggalo Party. These beats are generic and just boring to me. Time isnt much better. And I used to hate Otis for his singing on the albums, I'm glad he fucked Samantha for that matter.
I really like The World Is Yours because of the message, but musicwise it's almost as boring as the songs mentioned above. Wanna bring positive vibes along? Fine! But dont bore me.

But as I mentioned in the other thread, if you switch up some songs, you get a smooth Joker's Card. That applies to both Lost and Found.

When I'm going back to listen to Lost and Found (what I do from time to time), those are the playlists I choose to go with:

Lost

01. Intro (from The Outtakes)
02. Lost
03. Apocalypse
04. Shock
05. The Dream (from The Outtakes)
06. How
07. The Monster (from The Outtakes)
08. I'll Keep My Hatchet
09. Six Pedophiles (from The Outtakes)
10. Confederate Flag
11. Vomit
12. Flamethrower
13. Why'd I Have to Die (from The Outtakes)
14. Falling Apart
15. I See The Devil

Found

01. Lost at the Carnival
02. Get Clowned
03. Joey The Butcher (from The Outtakes)
04. Dead Heather (from The Outtakes)
05. Let Loose (from The Outtakes)
06. Hooker (from The Outtakes)
07. The Midway
08. Immortal (from The Outtakes)
09. Mr. White Suit
10. Dreams of Grandeur
11. The World Is Yours
12. Juggalo Party
13. The Carousel (from The Outtakes)
14. Found
15. I'm Sweet

... I never understood why they failed with them original intros so much. With all respect to Jumpsteady, the original intros are way too corny - while the Intro for Lost from The Outtakes fits so good. Plus I think Lost At The Carnival is not a very good song itself, but a great starter. Like that, I enjoy Lost and Found a lot. Try it some time.