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This is cool, don't knowabout massive, but glad to see this is going somewhere. Seemed like everything was going nowhere, nice to see something is being done, I guess. I live in Massachusetts, where this law isn't even enforced. I still wanna know what Billy Bill's first word was. Somehow I think it was "fuckyou"
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ACLU, Insane Clown Posse File Lawsuit Challenging FBI Gang Designation
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
January 8, 2014
DETROIT – The American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, along with the Detroit music duo Insane Clown Posse (ICP), filed a federal lawsuit today on behalf of Juggalos, or fans of ICP, claiming that their constitutional rights to expression and association were violated when the U.S. government wrongly and arbitrarily classified the entire fan base as a “hybrid” criminal gang. The lawsuit was filed on behalf of four Juggalos and the two members of ICP.
“The Juggalos are fighting for the basic American right to freely express who they are, to gather and share their appreciation of music, and to discuss issues that are important to them without fear of being unfairly targeted and harassed by police,” said Michael J. Steinberg, ACLU of Michigan legal director. “Branding hundreds of thousands of music fans as gang members based on the acts of a few individuals defies logic and violates our most cherished of constitutional rights.”
Juggalos are the self-identified fans of ICP. They often express their affinity for ICP by painting their faces to look like clowns, and displaying the “hatchetman” logo and other ICP insignia on their clothing, jewelry, body art and bumper stickers. Juggalos often come together at concerts or their annual week-long summer gathering. They consider themselves a “family” of people who love and help one another and enjoy one another’s company. Juggalos are not an organized fan club, but a group of people who bond over the music and a philosophy of life, much like “Deadheads” bonded around the Grateful Dead. The federal government estimates that there are more than a million Juggalos in the United States.
In 2011, Juggalos were officially identified as a “hybrid gang” by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), when the fan group was included in the DOJ’s third National Gang Threat Assessment. As a result of this unjust designation, “individual Juggalos are suffering improper investigations, detentions and other denials of their personal rights at the hands of government officials” or denied employment according to the lawsuit filed today in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan.
For instance, Brandon Bradley, 20, a self-identified Juggalo, has on numerous occasions been stopped and detained by law enforcement officers in California. Each time, the officer has wrongly accused Brandon of being in a gang and has interrogated him about being a Juggalo and his affiliated tattoos and clothing. Another client, Scott Gandy, was told he would not be accepted in the Army because his ICP tattoo was a gang symbol.
“It’s unfair that police are treating fans of ICP like criminals just because of the music we like,” said Brandon. “Even though the Juggalo community has had a positive effect on my life, now I feel I have to cover my tattoos in certain areas or risk being harassed by police. It’s wrong to make me hide who I am.”
The lawsuit asks a judge to order the DOJ to remove the Juggalos from the government’s list of gangs so that the fans of ICP will no longer be unconstitutionally and unjustifiably singled out as targets for scrutiny and harassment by law enforcement authorities throughout the country. The lawsuit goes on to assert that the DOJ’s classification of the Juggalos as a gang is unconstitutionally vague and violates the Juggalos’ constitutional rights to association and speech.
“It’s time for the FBI to come to its senses and recognize that Juggalos are not a gang but a worldwide family united by the love of music,” said Joseph Bruce (aka Violent J), a member of ICP. “There has never been—and will never be—a music fan base quite like Juggalos, and while it is easy to fear what one does not understand, discrimination and bigotry against any group of people is just plain wrong and un-American.”
In 2012, attorneys representing ICP and their record label, Psychopathic Records, filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the FBI to obtain records the federal government used to justify officially designating Juggalos as a criminal gang. When those documents were finally released, they contained nothing that would warrant labeling all Juggalos as a criminal gang.
In addition to Steinberg, the Juggalos are represented by ACLU cooperating attorney Saura J. Sahu of the law firm Miller, Canfield, Paddock and Stone, and Daniel Korobkin and Kary Moss of the ACLU of Michigan. The members of the Insane Clown Posse are represented by Howard Hertz and Elizabeth Thomson of the firm Hertz Schram and Farris F. Haddad of Farris F. Haddad & Associates, P.C.
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March 8, 2013
PunkRockJuggalo said
ACLU, Insane Clown Posse File Lawsuit Challenging FBI Gang Designation
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
January 8, 2014DETROIT – The American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, along with the Detroit music duo Insane Clown Posse (ICP), filed a federal lawsuit today on behalf of Juggalos, or fans of ICP, claiming that their constitutional rights to expression and association were violated when the U.S. government wrongly and arbitrarily classified the entire fan base as a “hybrid” criminal gang. The lawsuit was filed on behalf of four Juggalos and the two members of ICP.
“The Juggalos are fighting for the basic American right to freely express who they are, to gather and share their appreciation of music, and to discuss issues that are important to them without fear of being unfairly targeted and harassed by police,” said Michael J. Steinberg, ACLU of Michigan legal director. “Branding hundreds of thousands of music fans as gang members based on the acts of a few individuals defies logic and violates our most cherished of constitutional rights.”
Juggalos are the self-identified fans of ICP. They often express their affinity for ICP by painting their faces to look like clowns, and displaying the “hatchetman” logo and other ICP insignia on their clothing, jewelry, body art and bumper stickers. Juggalos often come together at concerts or their annual week-long summer gathering. They consider themselves a “family” of people who love and help one another and enjoy one another’s company. Juggalos are not an organized fan club, but a group of people who bond over the music and a philosophy of life, much like “Deadheads” bonded around the Grateful Dead. The federal government estimates that there are more than a million Juggalos in the United States.
In 2011, Juggalos were officially identified as a “hybrid gang” by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), when the fan group was included in the DOJ’s third National Gang Threat Assessment. As a result of this unjust designation, “individual Juggalos are suffering improper investigations, detentions and other denials of their personal rights at the hands of government officials” or denied employment according to the lawsuit filed today in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan.
For instance, Brandon Bradley, 20, a self-identified Juggalo, has on numerous occasions been stopped and detained by law enforcement officers in California. Each time, the officer has wrongly accused Brandon of being in a gang and has interrogated him about being a Juggalo and his affiliated tattoos and clothing. Another client, Scott Gandy, was told he would not be accepted in the Army because his ICP tattoo was a gang symbol.
“It’s unfair that police are treating fans of ICP like criminals just because of the music we like,” said Brandon. “Even though the Juggalo community has had a positive effect on my life, now I feel I have to cover my tattoos in certain areas or risk being harassed by police. It’s wrong to make me hide who I am.”
The lawsuit asks a judge to order the DOJ to remove the Juggalos from the government’s list of gangs so that the fans of ICP will no longer be unconstitutionally and unjustifiably singled out as targets for scrutiny and harassment by law enforcement authorities throughout the country. The lawsuit goes on to assert that the DOJ’s classification of the Juggalos as a gang is unconstitutionally vague and violates the Juggalos’ constitutional rights to association and speech.
“It’s time for the FBI to come to its senses and recognize that Juggalos are not a gang but a worldwide family united by the love of music,” said Joseph Bruce (aka Violent J), a member of ICP. “There has never been—and will never be—a music fan base quite like Juggalos, and while it is easy to fear what one does not understand, discrimination and bigotry against any group of people is just plain wrong and un-American.”
In 2012, attorneys representing ICP and their record label, Psychopathic Records, filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the FBI to obtain records the federal government used to justify officially designating Juggalos as a criminal gang. When those documents were finally released, they contained nothing that would warrant labeling all Juggalos as a criminal gang.
In addition to Steinberg, the Juggalos are represented by ACLU cooperating attorney Saura J. Sahu of the law firm Miller, Canfield, Paddock and Stone, and Daniel Korobkin and Kary Moss of the ACLU of Michigan. The members of the Insane Clown Posse are represented by Howard Hertz and Elizabeth Thomson of the firm Hertz Schram and Farris F. Haddad of Farris F. Haddad & Associates, P.C.
Yes! this is fuckin awesome.
PRJ DELIVARS ONCE AGAIN
My brain is gone, my brain is gone, say no more my brain is gone
12:19 pm
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August 6, 2013
So they have moved from suing FOR the information to actually suing to have juggalos removed from the gang listing, and they also have the ACLU and some fairly big law firms behind them. If the ACLU was willing to jump on this case with them, I have a feeling they have a pretty strong case, which means they may overturn this gang profile.
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April 15, 2013
I cringe whenever I hear the Grateful Dead analogy, mainly because displaying GD logos or designs was probable cause for a search in some east coast states in the 80s and 90s. The feds investigated the fuck out of deadheads. I remember many, many federal drug busts at Dead shows. You don't want to draw that comparison, trust me, because Deadheads were legitimately targeted by the feds and no one really gave a fuck. Just a little point, not like the case hinges on it or anything.
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April 15, 2013
http://www.buzzfeed.com/alison.....h?s=mobile
Sorry about the mobile link. My only option right now.
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Quest Said:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/alison…..h?s=mobile
The members of Insane Clown Posse filed suit against the Justice Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation Wednesday, claiming that the decision to classify fans of the band (Juggalos) as “criminal gang members” is “unwarranted and unlawful,” The New York Times reports. The classification allegedly led law enforcement to harass Juggalos, and has caused them “significant harm.”
The lawsuit reads:
Among the supporters of almost any group — whether it be a band, sports team, university, political organization or religion — there will be some people who violate the law. However, it is wrong to designate the entire group of supporters as a criminal gang based on the acts of a few. Unfortunately, that is exactly what happened here.
Plaintiffs for the case reportedly include four Juggalos from Nevada, California, North Carolina, and Iowa, who claim to have experienced police harassment or abuse due to their Insane Clown Posse allegiance.
Lisa Kleiner, for example, was required to remove her “JUGALET” license plate after a police officer complained that it was “gang-related,” and she received a letter from the state demanding her to remove it.
In 2012 the Insane Clown Posse filed another lawsuit against the FBI to acquire the documents it used to determine that Juggalos were a gang, but the case was dismissed in August.
The FBI Has Classified Juggalos As A “Violent Street Gang”
Here is the full lawsuit:
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August 6, 2013
Here is the kicker from the press release imo:
In 2012, attorneys representing ICP and their record label, Psychopathic Records, filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the FBI to obtain records the federal government used to justify officially designating Juggalos as a criminal gang. When those documents were finally released, they contained nothing that would warrant labeling all Juggalos as a criminal gang.
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August 6, 2013
I am reading the lawsuit and holy fuck!
40. The State Trooper asked Parsons if he had any axes, hatchets, or other similar chopping instruments in the truck. Parsons truthfully answered that he did not.
An officer actually asked someone driving a professional semi-truck that? Holy fucking shit...
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March 30, 2013
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I am reading the lawsuit and holy fuck!40. The State Trooper asked Parsons if he had any axes, hatchets, or other similar chopping instruments in the truck. Parsons truthfully answered that he did not.
An officer actually asked someone driving a professional semi-truck that? Holy fucking shit...
Did he try fondling his breasts?
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