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February 16, 2019
4:54 pm
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I’m new here. I visit the forum once in a while to see whats up. I never see anything for fan made joker card concepts. So I’m here to start one. I suppose they already have the 5th card idea since the name is somewhere on FFF, so lets move onto the 6th card or just any concept/name that would be cool. First, i’ve always wanted to see a woman jokers card? would be something different, could deal with love someone, idk thats just what I always felt. My most recent idea was one called “The Gatekeeper”, he’s based off Saint Peter. He is at the gates of Heaven, was basically the first pope. The card design: two hands, picture Great Milenko hands, one hand is holding a nice shiny golden key (Heaven), the other hand holding a wicked more disturbing looking key (Hell). I can’t figure out a face design yet, but he would be wearing the popes pointy hat, maybe have some ware and tear on the side with the hell key? Anyone else have any ideas?

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February 16, 2019
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Ive read just over the last couple days about the idea of a lady joker card. Made me think a little and i kinda dig the idea. Specially if theres going to be 7 more they could def do this. Never really thought about it till someone else said it, but it would be a cool way to mix things up.

The ‘gatekeeper’ idea i like also. Maybe just a twotone face like riddlebox or FFF. One side darker than the other. Pretty cool concept kid, keep at it! 

Sorry and shit i got nothing original to add, lol

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February 16, 2019
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man they should do a Card with a guy that dont give a fuck with beer in his hand and blunt in other .saying the party dont never stop and bangs chiks all the time like real drunk aNd high and dont care what time it is ever. then he gets free things like food becuase hes way more cooler then every body else man

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February 16, 2019
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randy gall said
man they should do a Card with a guy that dont give a fuck with beer in his hand and blunt in other .saying the party dont never stop and bangs chiks all the time like real drunk aNd high and dont care what time it is ever. then he gets free things like food becuase hes way more cooler then every body else man  

That’s Stone Cold. You wan’t Stone Cold to be a jokers card.

 

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First, i’ve always wanted to see a woman jokers card? would be something different, could deal with love someone, idk thats just what I always felt.

This is exactly what had been proposed on here in the past. There seems to be a trend where the first concept a juggalo thinks of when thinking about a female joker’s card is sex or lust like that’s all you think females are good for. SMH. Why can’t it be a regular joker’s card that happens to be female? Why does it’s gender have to be a gimmick backed up with misogynistic stereotypes?

February 16, 2019
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King Lucem Ferre said

That’s Stone Cold. You wan’t Stone Cold to be a jokers card.

 

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First, i’ve always wanted to see a woman jokers card? would be something different, could deal with love someone, idk thats just what I always felt.

This is exactly what had been proposed on here in the past. There seems to be a trend where the first concept a juggalo thinks of when thinking about a female joker’s card is sex or lust like that’s all you think females are good for. SMH. Why can’t it be a regular joker’s card that happens to be female? Why does it’s gender have to be a gimmick backed up with misogynistic stereotypes?  

Yeah i never said anything about “sex” or “lust” at all, I said LOVE which can be interpreted in many ways. You chose to think of it in a negative way.

February 16, 2019
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You’re suggesting an ICP album with love as its main theme. Sex and lust aren’t exactly a stretch. But no, Lucem’s absolutely right, every time a Joker’s card comes out someone suggests this same concept. 

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February 16, 2019
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Neverthrive said
You’re suggesting an ICP album with love as its main theme. Sex and lust aren’t exactly a stretch. But no, Lucem’s absolutely right, every time a Joker’s card comes out someone suggests this same concept.   

It’s always a female too. Every time.

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Yeah i never said anything about “sex” or “lust” at all, I said LOVE which can be interpreted in many ways. You chose to think of it in a negative way.  

Society is evolving, it’s about time we end patriarchal views and see women as more than just muses. I’m not choosing to see it that way either, it’s just how I see it. Just as I doubt your intent was meant to be harmful in anyway. I just think these misogynistic views are so normalized in culture that we tend to not realize it until it’s brought to our attention. Assuming that the person cares enough in the first place to challenge themselves or the status quo for something less bigoted.

February 16, 2019
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Some other card concepts that would be interesting would be a gypsy type character, possible the wife or sister of the great milenko? Doesnt have to be linked to milenko at all though, that was just a thought. She could have a crystal ball, look into your past and future type of deal. Anyone else have any ideas?

February 16, 2019
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How about a jokers card that punishes white musicians who steal black culture for prosperity that they only share with in their race?

 

Nah, I’m just pulling your leg this time. Or am I?

February 16, 2019
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J said that all 3 decks are going to end with the heaven & hell theme.  I wonder if that’s going to be covered as a double album as the final card for all 3 of them, or if they’re intending that to be the last 2 cards of the second and third deck.

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How about a jokers card that punishes white musicians who steal black culture for prosperity that they only share with in their race?

 

Nah, I’m just pulling your leg this time. Or am I?  

A whole card bashing Elvis.

February 16, 2019
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said
J said that all 3 decks are going to end with the heaven & hell theme.  I wonder if that’s going to be covered as a double album as the final card for all 3 of them, or if they’re intending that to be the last 2 cards of the second and third deck.

A whole card bashing Elvis.  

IDK, a white guy in black face doing a terrible impression of african american culture is a bad look for Joe.

 

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February 16, 2019
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said
J said that all 3 decks are going to end with the heaven & hell theme.  I wonder if that’s going to be covered as a double album as the final card for all 3 of them, or if they’re intending that to be the last 2 cards of the second and third deck.

Yeah, that’s where i was going with the gatekeeper idea, one key unlocks heaven for you and the other unlocks hell. Idk how it could be turned into a double album or just one album with heaven/hell theme throughout the whole thing.

February 16, 2019
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Instead of “brothers” it could be “sisters”

Twin witches come to mind. 

So does tarot, spells, souls.

February 16, 2019
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Or what if they had a jokers card decked in gold that tackled materialism. Not just the superficial ideals of materialism either but people who would spend fortunes on collectibles rather than help the less fortunate. Materialistic merch hounds or goths and cos-players that spend fortunes creating elaborate outfits yet don’t get the same rep as people with gold chains so they delude themselves into thinking they’re not materialistic.

 

Or a blind jokers card meant to critique people who turn a blind eye towards the atrocities of the world. People who ignore or deny that problems exist because it either doesn’t effect them or it directly conflicts with their interest. That could also include people that live in denial of their pain, trauma or mental state because they think it makes them weak but in reality they succumb to it because they were too weak to actually face it themselves.

 

Or maybe a puppet master that pulls on emotions or desires to trick people into their demise or to turn them against each other. Just in the spirit of my psuedo social justice troll on J in ‘black face’. I think that’s totally relevant though, using people like Trump, David Duke, Putin or Jussie as inspiration.

 

I should really help them with this shit because those last three sound way fucking cooler than anything in this new deck. Even greatdane’s gatekeeper sounds better than their whole new deck.

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February 16, 2019
11:14 pm
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King Lucem Ferre said
Or what if they had a jokers card decked in gold that tackled materialism. Not just the superficial ideals of materialism either but people who would spend fortunes on collectibles rather than help the less fortunate. Materialistic merch hounds or goths and cos-players that spend fortunes creating elaborate outfits yet don’t get the same rep as people with gold chains so they delude themselves into thinking they’re not materialistic.

 

Or a blind jokers card meant to critique people who turn a blind eye towards the atrocities of the world. People who ignore or deny that problems exist because it either doesn’t effect them or it directly conflicts with their interest. That could also include people that live in denial of their pain, trauma or mental state because they think it makes them weak but in reality they succumb to it because they were too weak to actually face it themselves.

 

I was thinking something like your gold idea, just hadn’t figured out how to put it all into words like you had. I like that idea a lot! a black cover with all the bling and what night in a shinier gold material would look pretty nice against a black background. The blind idea is also very unique and would be pretty cool, but also i feel like they touch on this subject a bit in some songs already, Terrible from AJB comes to mind right away.

February 16, 2019
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greatdaneKC said

King Lucem Ferre said
Or what if they had a jokers card decked in gold that tackled materialism. Not just the superficial ideals of materialism either but people who would spend fortunes on collectibles rather than help the less fortunate. Materialistic merch hounds or goths and cos-players that spend fortunes creating elaborate outfits yet don’t get the same rep as people with gold chains so they delude themselves into thinking they’re not materialistic.
 
Or a blind jokers card meant to critique people who turn a blind eye towards the atrocities of the world. People who ignore or deny that problems exist because it either doesn’t effect them or it directly conflicts with their interest. That could also include people that live in denial of their pain, trauma or mental state because they think it makes them weak but in reality they succumb to it because they were too weak to actually face it themselves.
 

I was thinking something like your gold idea, just hadn’t figured out how to put it all into words like you had. I like that idea a lot! a black cover with all the bling and what night in a shinier gold material would look pretty nice against a black background. The blind idea is also very unique and would be pretty cool, but also i feel like they touch on this subject a bit in some songs already, Terrible from AJB comes to mind right away.  

Just about all the topics have been touched on. Kind of have to remember that the original set of jokers cards never actually had themes just back stories that were pretty much exactly the same. Carnival of Carnage, Great Milenko, and Ring Master were all manifestations of people’s evil. Amazing Jeckel Brothers, Riddle Box and The Wraith were all about the choice between heaven and hell. The concepts just could be expanded upon. If they were clever enough, (no offense but I don’t think they are) they could put whole new perspectives on well known ICP tropes that have us look at it in different ways. That’s just what I’d hope from ICP. Something more matured than the status quo, but I kind of have to remember that nobody really looks towards ICP for intelligence, their main appeal is being dumb fun for weirdos. So on that note I’d tell them to quit trying so hard with bringing unique jokers cards and just go back to wicked looking clowns with basic concepts. Kind of like Missing Link was.

February 17, 2019
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I was thinking about a entity that possess your mind taking control to the point you become a psychopath when I was at work. I was thinking about IF the next joker card is called Machete Eddy what message could he possibly explore, and that’s all I could think of.

February 17, 2019
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Fat Sweaty Betty….had a heart attack and died…..now she’s out to punish all the guys she fucked but never got her snack cake.

February 17, 2019
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King Lucem Ferre said 

…There seems to be a trend where the first concept a juggalo thinks of when thinking about a female joker’s card is sex or lust like that’s all you think females are good for. SMH. Why can’t it be a regular joker’s card that happens to be female? Why does it’s gender have to be a gimmick backed up with misogynistic stereotypes?  

Then he said

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Hmmm.

How about a Joker’s Card that is based in life rather than the afterlife? Maybe a body thief that hijacks the suicidal (whether they know they are or not) and rides their vessels while they either fight to move back in or choose to check out instead? Could be hilariously brutal.

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OGJordan said
Fat Sweaty Betty….had a heart attack and died…..now she’s out to punish all the guys she fucked but never got her snack cake.  

I like Puscifer‘s version where she gets Mozambiqued…

“Shoulda dumped my gat into the Verde
But what if she’s a zombie or a dracula
I better hang on to this…

Sweet Jesus, don’t let the judge release me
What if she’s a zombie or a dracula
And tried to fuckin eat me
Devil walked away from a banging trip to Mozambique
Help me outta this…”

YouTube Video PUSCIFER “Conditions of My Parole” Directors Cut

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