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ICP versus TWIZTID
December 17, 2012
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slow down sparky- it aint that kind of predictable ass thread "DUUHH, twiztid RULES!!! FUCK ICP!" lol

 

my question is, is it possible that after Twiztid puts the work into their new label and builds a reputation behind it- Twiztid's label would eventually TRUMP ICP and Psychopathic as the new "juggalo forefront"? discuss...

December 17, 2012
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Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? Probably not.

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December 17, 2012
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i personally think if theyre starting their own label they will still be closely knit with psy.. almost like their own hatchet house.. so no i dont think they will top psy.. maybe in 10 years tho.. i think they just wanted to be more free as oppose to just doing what psy wanted them to.. 

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December 17, 2012
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I don't even think it's about "who wins"...nobody wins.

In the end, it's all ART. And that's what matters: the amount of hearts and minds soothed and moved by it. Ego and "winning" got nothin to do with it.

December 17, 2012
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i could give two fucks less who they sigh w.. imma be bumping there tracks all day.. if anything i feel like icp has been holding them back.. much love for both groups but its time twiztid gets the respect and attention they deserve. Just like violent j said in the interview from i think it was 2003, we still got love for those dude

December 17, 2012
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I don't see twiztid putting in the work to build a label to that degree. They barely wanna work on twiztid as a brand. They said themselves they gave up ownership of psychopathic cause they didn't wanna put in all the extra work, they preferred to just worry about recording and shit. They gotta be getting some major backing or they are signing to another label

December 17, 2012
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they all in there 40s yall, if this dont signal the end is coming, i dont know whatt will.

point is, they will never have the drive that they did 10 -15 years ago, they older now, just how it is.

alot of us that have been around for a while, should probly realize that the end will come soon

December 17, 2012
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twiztid gave up at psy., because of all the dumb shit going on at that label ! this new TWIZTID gonna be sum fire ! 2013 !

K R U S H - K I L L - D E S T R O Y !

December 18, 2012
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watch Twiztid just pop up and perform at Big Ballas and find out it was all a hoax,,,or they just made their own label and PSY is distributing it or some dumb shit like that

December 18, 2012
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I've had the hoax thought in the back of my head as well, but I don't see any point in them just fuckin around. Ya mean?

December 18, 2012
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it would definitely be awesome if it was a hoax but, i seriously doubt it. i think twiztid just wanna see what they can do on there own. abominationz was probably there last album on the current contract. i think blaze will leave after the next solo and/or drive by album. i just hope twiztid deliver without psychopathic. as for icp they will continue to dominate and put out some of the best music theyve released in 8 years. they will resign myzery and push him like a mofo cause he is family with j and twiztid are gone.

December 18, 2012
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chops said:

as for icp they will continue to dominate and put out some of the best music theyve released in 8 years. 

what do you mean continue?? you really think mdp & (or) bpb are better than hells pit??

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December 19, 2012
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I personally think mdp is the best album since hells pit which came out over 8 years ago and bpb was good but not as good as mdp in my opinion. They will never make music like the old days but atleast they r trying. They were lost between hells pit and tempest

December 19, 2012
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i honestly feel mdp is their worst album & would rank tempest higher than both of the new jokers cards..

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December 19, 2012
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mdp started off good, but to me they dont feel like jokers cards.

they just dont

even if they release another "6th" it wont be the same thing as the first time

December 19, 2012
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The Warlock said:

i honestly feel mdp is their worst album & would rank tempest higher than both of the new jokers cards..

 

Agreed...I've said it before but the magic just isn't there anymore. They aren't angry and hungry anymore. The wicked shit sounds almost forced to me. Like they don't want to continue contributing to our bad name but feel obligated to keep making wicked shit cuz thats what we really want. The whole FBI situation isn't making matters any better.

This is big big stuff man. People are gonna look back at this in the same way as the George Carlin "Seven Dirty Words" routine. Hopefully when its over they can feel like they don't need to apologize for us anymore and go back to making that wicked shit

December 19, 2012
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i just feel the tempest was full of concepts that had nothing to do with anything. just a buncha random songs thrown together. whereas bpb they really tried to bring back that old school sound(which is impossible but atleast they tried) and mdp was them accepting that they will never sound like that again and moving on. icp has not had the "magic" since jeckel bros and maybe bizaar bizzar. after that mastering was downgraded and the lotus pod was subpar to the funhouse for a few years. i think mec should have produced freekshow because the album sounds like it was recorded in someones closet. it was the first psychopathic album since 95 to not have that polish mec used to put on them badboys. i almost dont count the reissue of mostasteless as a twiztid album because it really sounds like an icp album with twiztid doing the lyrics. honestly i think it was all that family bullshit that started after 2000 really. icp should have never boxed themselves into a corner like they did. how would u feel knowing u will NEVER exceed ur success. it was impossible for them and after bizaar bizzar they knew it. juggalos destroyed icp's chances at a normal music career. its like having a restaurant and after years of promoting and growing when success starts to become huge then all of a sudden only the same people continue visiting and it starts to die down and u get a reputaion for catering to a certain type of person. soon u will disapear and because of this psychopathic will die. they wont reach the future success of other labels becuase of the juggalos. icp created juggalos and they were pigeonholed because of it.

December 19, 2012
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I  feel what your sayin' man. For me tho I loved mike P's production a little bit more. The wraith albums were by far my favorite of them all. As for a"Normal music career" they never had a shot at that in the first place. Which is why they needed juggalos in the first place. I wouldn't say they were boxed into a corner by juggalos. If anything we gave em a shot at being in the fight in the first place. They knew that and thats why they start shoutin' family. Trying to solidify that bond and fanbase.

 

They will never get mainstream success because the music we love isn't made for most people and that's what attracts most of us in the first place.

December 19, 2012
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December 19, 2012
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its not like they didnt say juggalo this and juggalo that,and the family and all that

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