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Hatchetman
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March 2, 2017
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scruffy said
i meant [with deep sarcasm] that we had better get righteous.  we juggalos.  

we, who never tell lies, for any reason.    

I got ya. Implement being the glass house scenario right? 

My point is that they put themselves in a big ass glass house. Not only put themselves there but sent out fliers tellin everybody where it was and how awesome it was that they lived there. Now they’re throwin stones (lying…eh…the metaphor is slippin but I’m determined) and wonderin why people are startin to line up with rocks. 

March 2, 2017
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lol, “We’re not mad about the concert. We’re mad that you lied to us.”

 

I agree with both points. Scruffy is right that they are only human and you have to expect human’s to fuck up. Kinda the same shit I’ve been trying to say about Twiztid this whole time but kept getting this whole ‘why do you even care?’ spill about it every time.

 

I also agree that the specific lie they used was particularly fucked up and manipulative. Which completely fits the rhetoric of plenty of past employees. If true, if this is all just a piece of J’s manipulation pie then I am for sure NEVER EVER going to give another dollar to 50 Cent. I just can’t support 50 Cent now. It’s done.

March 2, 2017
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Every time somebody says “wonder why FaygoLuvers didn’t report this” implying that FLH doesn’t have any journalistic integrity and is reporting bias stories because of some kind of political conspiracy I have wonder if that person really is that big of a loser that they have to take the inner workings of a music label as seriously as if it’s as important as the real corruption going on in our media and government right now.

 

And if you are one of said people who’s names I don’t remember or care to look up, please save me the sob story of the importance of the culture and the music and how it saved your life and means so much to you and blah blah blah. I don’t care.

Insert “YOU wouldn’t understand YOU aren’t a juggalo” in there too.

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March 2, 2017
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I do think this should be on the front page, but this is Scottie’s site and he can post whatever the fuck he wants. This is a juggalo site, not the Associated Press. 

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March 2, 2017
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I do think this should be on the front page, but this is Scottie’s site and he can post whatever the fuck he wants. This is a juggalo site, not the Associated Press.   

Ahhhhh, that explains all the talk of ICP and Twiztid and stuff and not much talk about soda pop.

March 3, 2017
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King Lucem Ferre said
If true, if this is all just a piece of J’s manipulation pie then I am for sure NEVER EVER going to give another dollar to 50 Cent. I just can’t support 50 Cent now. It’s done.  

If that’s his endgame J needs to serve up that pie all around.

I got drunk and listened to Get Rich or Die Tryin’ for nostalgia’s sake. That CD lived  in the deck of my brother’s Mazda when it dropped, but I hadn’t heard it since then. That album aged like produce.

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If that’s his endgame J needs to serve up that pie all around.

I got drunk and listened to Get Rich or Die Tryin’ for nostalgia’s sake. That CD lived  in the deck of my brother’s Mazda when it dropped, but I hadn’t heard it since then. That album aged like produce.  

I’ve NEVER liked 50 Cent. Always felt that he was the most overrated rapper. Just completely boring. Came in the worst era of hip hop. Was a part of it. He was boring. Lil John was boring. Mike Jones was boring. Pitbull was boring. Like the only saving graces from that era was we got Kanye West and Lupe Fiasco. And I guess Game, but his first album was kind of boring too. Even though that was his big critically acclaimed hit album. Back when the underground had the best shit. Now it’s kind of a blurred line. But we got tons of dope shit that’s mainstream now. Like Run The Jewels, Kendrick Lamar, Danny Brown, A$AP Rocky, Vic Mensa, Flatbush Zombies, Childish Gambino, Tyler The Creator etc. All creative and different artists. Why I laugh when people say ‘fuck the mainstream’ these days. Like, it’s not 2005 any more. We have dope shit because nobody listens to radio anymore. Mean while in the underground we got another white kid who can rap fast over generic club beats. Wow, how creative.

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March 3, 2017
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I agree, the early 2000’s fuckin sucked for Hip Hop, however, I did like Big Pun and Dipset back then and even a little Nelly did the soul some good drunk in the bar. (now you got me reminiscing)  Didn’t really matter anyway cuz that’s the PSY took off and was droppin bombs in those days.

 

Dude said it aged like produce    lol

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dipset/heatmakers>>>>>kanye(most of his best shit was for other people)

and the g-unit radio mixtapes were some of the dopest shit ever back in those days.. those are some of the few songs that are still able to inspire me..
id bump a lil john record over a modern commercial rapper any day.. niether one will impress me lyrically but at least the former will knock in my trunk like crazy..

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March 3, 2017
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What?? You guys were listening to shite in the early 2000s man. One of the best times for underground hip hop IMO, all those whack rappers you guys on about and not one person has mentioned this was the time of some of the best to ever represent hip hop.

Non-Phixion, The Arsonists, Immortal Technique, Brotha Lynch (released some of his best albums in this period), Jedi Mind Tricks, Circle of Tyrants, El-P, Swollen Members (maybe), Necro, Cannibal Ox, Ill Bill, Goretex, Mr Hyde, Q-Unique all the solo albums of these guys. All of which are even no longer about or deff not making releases as good now as there were then.

And you guys are talkin about Fiddy Cent, Game, Nelly, Lil Jon and Kanye fuckin West !!?? lol I know MTV rap/crap hop was bad at the time but the underground was the best ever. 

Btw I’m not being a cunt jus joining conversation shots

 

Anyway back on topic IF ICP are lying (which wouldn’t surprise me after years of saying our next releases is guna be the darkest yet pssshh) yeah people make mistakes and fuck up but to blame it on the police and the same organisation you marchin against is only giving more of a reason for Juggs at the march to react more hostile toward the law enforcement there as the band organizing it is saying that it’s the pigs that are the reason their free concert was cancelled. Lie’s like that could seriously harm the march and cause trouble towards the police because people feel personaly attacked and judged by them when thats not the case at all. DANGEROUS SHIT MAN !wacky

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BodeeBagz said
What?? You guys were listening to shite in the early 2000s man. One of the best times for underground hip hop IMO, all those whack rappers you guys on about and not one person has mentioned this was the time of some of the best to ever represent hip hop.

Non-Phixion, The Arsonists, Immortal Technique, Brotha Lynch (released some of his best albums in this period), Jedi Mind Tricks, Circle of Tyrants, El-P, Swollen Members (maybe), Necro, Cannibal Ox, Ill Bill, Goretex, Mr Hyde, Q-Unique all the solo albums of these guys. All of which are even no longer about or deff not making releases as good now as there were then.

And you guys are talkin about Fiddy Cent, Game, Nelly, Lil Jon and Kanye fuckin West !!?? lol I know MTV rap/crap hop was bad at the time but the underground was the best ever. 

Btw I’m not being a cunt jus joining conversation shots

they were specifically talkin bout mainstream rap.  lucem was, anyway.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

March 4, 2017
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scruffy said
oh my god.  

the ‘insane clown posse’, from ‘psychopathic records’, told a fib.  

better get righteous.  cuz if there is one thing we juggalos have established about ourselves, its that we are all about extra-honest righteousness.  

we dont lie.  no juggalo would ever do that, especially not as an excuse to cover ass.  never happens.    

“ICP should be able to lie to their fans whenever they want with no backlash, because all humans lie”

 

Wow, great logic.

 

Do you get paid to act as a Public Relations manager whenever Psychopathic fucks up or do you do this for free? Your “move on, nothing to see here” gimmick is getting really stale.

March 4, 2017
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FTFO said   
“ICP should be able to lie to their fans whenever they want with no backlash, because all humans lie”
Wow, great logic.    

that aint what i said, slickster.  inventing quotes dont prove shit.  

hey, let it ruin your life that your heroes arent fully truthful.  see if i care.  

Do you get paid to act as a Public Relations manager whenever Psychopathic fucks up or do you do this for free? Your “move on, nothing to see here” gimmick is getting really stale.  

what, the ‘oh my god, icp is so mean to me!!!’ gimmick is suddenly the freshness, or sumn?  

drama queens.  

  

if this piddly shit hurts you so badly, what should you be doin…?  

hangin round, waitin for more…?  or…?  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

March 4, 2017
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King Lucem Ferre said

I’ve NEVER liked 50 Cent. Always felt that he was the most overrated rapper. Just completely boring. Came in the worst era of hip hop. Was a part of it. He was boring.

I agree fully. What’s interesting to me is how this guy managed platinum status while really just being mediocre overall. 

Not only that, but with hindsight you realize Fiddy Cent the hardcore gangsta who was shot 9 times and rolls with a clique called G-unit is a gimmick that would give any Psychopathic artist a run for their money. 

March 4, 2017
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King Lucem Ferre said   
I’ve NEVER liked 50 Cent. Always felt that he was the most overrated rapper. Just completely boring. Came in the worst era of hip hop. Was a part of it. He was boring.    

I agree fully. What’s interesting to me is how this guy managed platinum status while really just being mediocre overall.    

marketing.  mostly.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

March 4, 2017
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you guys do realize that if the local police pressured the venue, they’re not going to admit it publicly right? what did you think the police were going to say?

March 4, 2017
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you guys do realize that if the local police pressured the venue, they’re not going to admit it publicly right? what did you think the police were going to say?    

what was it the cop message said?  sumn about ‘issuing no public statements’ or some shit.  implying, perhaps, that statements were made privately.  

  

i generally am not inclined to arbitrarily accept a polices word on basicly any subject.  

so no, cops holdin up their hands and shrugging convinces me of not a damn thing.  all it says, is that they want me to think they are clueless.  which, conveniently, i already did.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

March 4, 2017
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Because what reason would they have lie is the first thing. Nobody cares about juggalos and typically these things are made publicly. So if it was shut down because of police the venue neither the police have a reason to lie. They would admit it right to your face because there would be nothing you could do about it.

 

Also Psychopathic already changed their story as people have pointed out. Sorry, your idols lied to you. Deal with it.

March 4, 2017
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The motive for police to lie is that they know better than anybody that unless you deny everything, anything can be manipulated to look like intent to break a law. It’s why literally every lawyer ever tells you to shit the fuck up and let them do the talking. 

Police lie all the time because they know you won’t question a lie but a truth could be used as evidence. 

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

March 5, 2017
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The motive for police to lie is that they know better than anybody that unless you deny everything, anything can be manipulated to look like intent to break a law. It’s why literally every lawyer ever tells you to shit the fuck up and let them do the talking. 

Police lie all the time because they know you won’t question a lie but a truth could be used as evidence.   

No, they had no reason to lie. Neither did the venue.

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