yeah i can see how you can perceive some of that shit except the run the town thing & i think if the music vid didnt have bandannas it wouldnt come across that way

i disagree. if the song didnt have the word juggalo in it no one would know they were juggalos

Don't forget the hand signals as well.

Outside looking in, man, outside looking in.

The Warlock said:

just watched the vid only saw one hatcheman jersey wasnt lookin closely for merch tho & only westside & peace were thrown up by them or their crew. you really think a non juggalo would watch that shit & think "oh these must be juggalo gang members" looool cmon son

Yes, yes I do. You have to realize that there are people that don't know what the signs mean and gang members are known to throw up hand signals like they did in the video. Walking around an area with a bunch of dudes dressed in red holding up red rags and that one dude holding up a hatchetman jersey. Much of the video displaying esoteric symbols that the general public doesn't understand. The people holding up dubs, which they might not know represents "westside" and even if they do it could be taken as them representing said territory. On top of all that, it's not like they are portraying themselves as a bunch of friendly neighbors trying to better their community. You ever see the photos that gang members take on gang lands? A lot of the shots from the music video are extremely similar to those photos. You also have to remember that the general public doesn't like to take the time to understand things, and a lot of people already think we are gang members so how can you deny that they might get that idea from this video.

Oh shit, fuck AMB they didn't grow up in the hood? Yeah..... man if I ever heard ICP didn't really eat dead bodies I'd burn my Psy collection..... oh wait.....

I've always had love for AMB, Wish they were still on Psychopathic. Their newer mixtape Strictly 4 the scrubs is pretty hott too. I really liked the track taken one of you with me.

no no some dude challenged him to a fight and he didnt respond

i guess it was somebodys manager or some shit like that, and he didnt like the way monoxide dealt with him or some shit like that so he challenged him to a fight at the gathering, dont know what happend at the gathering, assumed the manager didnt show cuz he knows if he touches paul hell get killed by the thoussands of jugalos there.

I watched AMB try to play the "our voices suck because we were screaming for Dark Lotus last night just like the rest of you" during their UGP contest performance as well. The only thing fresh about them there was their jerseys, and that was not getting my vote. PLC just didn't fit at all which is why their whole momentum after (with whatever label they tried to make) flopped. The lyrical ability of AMB when they first came out was garbage and was no grade higher than the scratchy frog throat horrorcore kids you can find on myspace, facebook, reverbnation, etc. Naturally, I went to see how they were outside of their music, and again in the beginning, it was a bunch of "Better not bring your girl to one of our shows or we'll fuck her", "I'm fuckin your girl and lovin it" etc etc which is just arrogant played out adolescent egotistical bullshit boasting which is not at all impressive.

The first thing I liked from them was their feature on ABK's album, and "Redrum Where I'm From" I enjoy only because of the beat, but as time went on I could see the one (dont know which is which, the one who always has to wear sunglasses talkin about fuckin everybody) tried to keep that persona up while the other (I think Otis?) actually matured, became a respectable emcee, and has continued to release music with amazing content and lyrical prowess. Whatever song it was he released as a single on Psy Radio during Valentines Day was the bomb, and since then I try to pay more attention to what he releases, but unless the other one drops the fake image, together they will fall. Portray yourself as whatever, but if you wanna get somewhere with it, don't sell yourself short like that.

And when they played Philly (think it was at Electric Factory or maybe Theater of Living Arts) when that shit happened, but wasn't it not provoked by a shitty comment one of them made into the mic about people not paying attention to them on stage? Thats how I recall it when I was there, unless that was a different show?

Out of curiosity, how many people on this thread are in the general surrounding area of Philly (NY/NJ/CT)???