2:17 am
January 19, 2013
Ninjas who needed to me to back up some previous facts I dropped, here ya go-
In a previous debate I had with @guest , he claimed anything Hatchetgear sells on disc with a barcode gets tracked by Soundscan.
I disagreed and said-
So the tens of thousands of Psychopathic Rydas albums that PSY has sold, chock full of stolen beats, were reported to Soundscan because they had all had a barcode on the back. What better way for ICP to help out a future lawsuit against them, then to provide concrete sales data to all the artists they ripped off? Ya, they reported all those sales, sure.
Supporting Fact- it very clearly states on the back cover art of Dumpin’ that they claim only 5000 copies were pressed. Violent J has since admitted in an interview that they have re-pressed that album many times, and then he laughed about the fact that they “still sell it”.
The 3 dollar CD sale Hatchetgear had a while back didn’t even meet the price threshold that Soundscan maintains to count an actual cd sold. So none of those sales were reported, and they sold thousands of cds that weekend(many went out of print after that sale).
Supporting Fact- social media was full of posts at that time of Juggalos showing the boxes of cds they bought from that sale. Ninjas who monitor Hatchetgear noticed that numerous albums sold out after that weekend, and have never been put up on Hatchetgear ever again.
Here is a link that talks about the base price Soundscan maintains to register an actual cd sale on their charts-
http://artistsupport.topspinme…..-Soundscan
Lastly I spoke about how the first batch of The Phantom EP Extra Spooky addition that sold out on Hatchetgear would not be counted as Soundscan sales, because they were all pressed up bootleg style on cdrs, and the album was full of illegal samples.
Turns out I got one detail wrong there. Here is the link to the discogs page where a ninja bitches about the album being pressed up bootleg style on a cdr-
https://www.discogs.com/Insane-Clown-Posse-The-Phantom-X-tra-Spooky-Edition/release/8307203
It clearly shows that PSY didn’t even bother to put a barcode on that EP, so those sales would have definitely NOT been reported at all.
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January 19, 2013
TheFvckinKreeper said
I was talking about the elusive music theater CD. I don’t care about your internet sissy fight.Pics or it didn’t happen.
News flash, bitch- most ninjas on here use Juggalo nicknames, Scruffy ain’t “Scruffy” in real life, Guest ain’t “Guest”, you don’t go to work as “The FuckinCreeper”.
At this point, with the troll level so high in this thread, no way I upload you a photo of that bitch. Lest @wow-a-chick start photoshopping gay porn onto that shit. I like keeping my personal history and Juggalo lives separate, and the liner notes would give you a little too much information on who I really am(like my real name.)
In case you were too fuckin daft to notice Miklo Velka is my favorite movie character’s name, not my own. Kids these days don’t know there history-
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3:23 am
January 19, 2013
TheFvckinKreeper said
I never said anything about your name, Einstein. You could have sent a pic of any rando Canadian Andrew Lloyd Webber shit and I wouldn’t have even questioned it, would have shut me right up.
I got paid four grand for that album/tv special(in 1995 money). No need to post up some fake ass photo….
So you’re either scared or a liar. Hide your power level better next time.
Try as you might to troll that info out of me, just ain’t happenin ….
Here is something a lot cooler, the new video ONYX and DOPE D.O.D just released.
It’s better than any video ICP has put out in years-
[youtube]-_iFd072g8o[/youtube]
Glad Dope D.O.D dropped that corny lookin dude, never dug his flow,they’re better as a duo.
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4:44 am
January 28, 2016
I agree celle, j10 is a stupid punk bitch. I bet it was really twiztid that didnt want him around…we all know monoxide is a diva and gets offended easily. Shit even blaze might of thought it was a mistake to hire him. He just tried to play the good cop card, since he was a fan, 1st and foremost. Also 1st impressions are a big thing, and he mite of rubbed someone the wrong way. J10 thinks he knows shit about the behind the scenes scenario, but he really only caught a tiny glimpse of the music business.
I view j10 the same as corp rob, a shady piece of shit. I bet corp saw that and didnt want j10 around fuckin up corps scheming
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6:06 pm
January 19, 2013
Just so everyone is aware @wow-a-chick kept PM’ing me long after she stopped posting in public.
She seems obsessed with me so I extended an olive branch, and invited her to the Madchild show I’m hitting tonight in Toronto.
I’ll be at the venue around 11pm. Hope to see some of you other ninjas there!
Here is the dope flyer-
9:50 am
January 17, 2017
Miklo Velka said
Ya, I hope Otis puts out an “official” response, so then Scottie D won’t be able to hide from the truth any longer.
Scottie will be forced to put up a story defending Young Wicked on the front page at that point, or his credibility will be completely shot.
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Nah, homie. Scottie, on Faygoluvers, doesn’t pick sides because he is the news source. This ain’t no Fox News or CNN where they pick sides, Scottie is just giving us facts. Since this wasn’t an official response as Young Wicked, and instead a personal response as Otis, Scottie respected his privacy and did not post about it. Let’s just wait until Wicked makes an official response, if it ever happens.
Personally, though, I stand with Rob and Joe. They’ve been the only ones giving us straight answers, no bull shit. The reason they’re so pissed now is because they amped up Wicked so fucking much right before he left, and he left because he couldn’t look them in the eye anymore.
Whoop Whoop TruthYouCantErase :
ScottieD, SPOOKYtheFUNGI, Sqeek10:28 am
April 15, 2013
I’m sure that non-disclosure agreements have a large part to do with how “open” anyone but VJ or Rob can possibly be. I would imagine a NDA is also the reason Otis deleted his post. Pretty common in the industry. They can’t say shit about PSY business practices. Speculation, but it lines up with what we are seeing. I read on this forum that at one point Mono confirmed they had signed a NDA, don’t have a source on that though.
10:41 am
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May 22, 2012
do you really believe that either psy or mne actually gives a fuck about a nondisclosure? i sure dont.
what they said was, ‘they made it so we cant talk about it’. that kinda dancing dont go along with paperwork, it goes with knowing their situation: if they run their mouths too much, we will backlash.
shit, we backlash whether they are runnin mouth or not. the precedent says danger danger.
i honestly believe that if twiztid told us the whole truth and nothin but, that they are afraid we juggalos would write em off.
and that, is why they wont say much, and why they keep wishing we would change the subject.
they arent bothered by possible court time, they are bothered by the prospect of losing their shot.
Whoop Whoop scruffy :
SPOOKYtheFUNGI, Sqeekawfully paranoid, arent you?
11:53 am
April 4, 2012
scruffy said
do you really believe that either psy or mne actually gives a fuck about a nondisclosure? i sure dont.
But what of there is a legit nondisclosure and what is PSY is legit about upholding it? Maybe Twiztid, knowing Psychopathic’s business and legal team better than any of us on the forums, knows that legal action would indeed be taken against them if they were to violate this potential nondisclosure.
shit, we backlash whether they are runnin mouth or not.
Which I still don’t understand as we’ve only heard one side of the story to date. All the YW shit aside (because the guy has always been a scumbag) when has Twiztid denounced us juggalos as the majority here seem to be insinuating? Because they don’t wanna participate in the march? I don’t wanna participate in the march…
Because they still wanted a payday at juggalo day (most running their own business want paydays)
i honestly believe that if twiztid told us the whole truth and nothin but, that they are afraid we juggalos would write em off.
This juggalo wouldn’t… Unless that truth was an unequivocal, “we no longer support juggalos, we no longer want to be associated with juggalos in any way, we no longer want juggalos buying are music or coming to our shows”
Not startin shit with you on this @scruffy As a Twiztid fan, all of this shit is just getting old to me and I wanted to vent. Most here seems to just be swinging heavily off ICP’s nuts on this, blindly taking their word for gold. I’m saying this as a huge ICP fan as well. If you never liked Twiztid as a band, that’s one thing, but seeing the majority of “ex fans” just dropping them completely because of business drama is pretty ridiculous.
IDK. maybe I’m just getting too old for the forums…
Whoop Whoop Carnivalkilla44 :
Sqeek, MNEJVoorhees12:28 pm
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May 22, 2012
Carnivalkilla44 said
…
All the YW shit aside (because the guy has always been a scumbag) when has Twiztid denounced us juggalos as the majority here seem to be insinuating?
only thing in there that sticks in me in a lil bit is the ‘majority’ bit.
not even half are insinuating that. mind you, im not including opinion from random driveby posters or twitbook crap.
[that there have been insinuations is undisputed; there have been solemn declarations. usually followed by oaths to never ever ever support again ever blah blah]
and off the boards, most i been talkin to are either extending themselves to ‘defend’ twiztid, and/or are somewhat annoyed at icp for bringin it to the forefront. at any rate, generally much closer to neutral.
basicly nobody seems to have any love for otis anymore, though. a couple.
Whoop Whoop scruffy :
Sqeekawfully paranoid, arent you?
12:28 pm
May 29, 2012
Guest said
I read on this forum that at one point Mono confirmed they had signed a NDA, don’t have a source on that though.
https://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/…..agreement/
Some people are acting like the NDA is some kind of rumor when FLH actually reported on it.
Not saying that Twiztid is faultless, but they definitely signed an NDA.
i believe it. Psy has been pretty chummy with their lawyers for a while now.
12:30 pm
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May 22, 2012
12:41 pm
May 29, 2012
Okay, so honest question here:
If “they made it so we can’t talk about why we left” doesn’t mean that they signed an NDA, then what was Mono referring to?
Are the hatchet goons going to kidnap Twiztid’s children if they talk?
Or is there some other type of intimidation tactic out there that would paint a more positive picture for Psy than an NDA?
I don’t think Mono was lying about not being able to talk. The existence of an NDA has been a hot topic, and in J’s two hour rant, he did not bother to deny the existence of an NDA. Not once.
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