I've been let down by Psychopathic too many times to count. J makes too many spur of the moment random decisions. So either things he announces never materialize or we end up getting artists like Cold 187um. Not to mention ICP's music lately has been the worst it's ever been with J not being able to flow anymore and he has no more creativity. So if V-Ice, Myzery, Zug, Cold, ABK, and Clay are what's outside ICP's insulting music, I don't have any faith left in the label sorry. They couldn't keep a headlining act like Twiztid happy who juggalos already loved. Am I supposed to believe things will get better now when they're re-signing artists juggalos didn't care about the first time around? If J/Psychopathic truly cared about juggalos, why is ICP's music so insulting and bad now? Why are they signing past artists who juggalos didn't care about the first time around? Why can't they keep artists juggalos actually do care about? In a way I respect your loyalty but on the other hand it's that kind of attitude that keeps things shitty at Psychopathic. And it's been going on far too long. Too much of the fam just blindly supporting everything the label (J) does no matter how bad it is. With Twiztid leaving I'd hope it wakes some people up that not everything is peaches and roses in Psychopathic land. IMO it's that militant "either support everything they do or you're not real fam" attitude that's ruined the whole scene to begin with (not that you said that but I've heard it). Without criticism, things get worse. Not better.

The difference between them surviving before Twiztid is pretty obvious bro. They were releasing fuckin Riddle Box and Milenko lol. They were so good back then they weren't going anywhere. Nowa days their music doesn't have the same effect because it isn't as good. People have been buying in to the "family" lifestyle instead. But a person has to wonder how long that'll last with everyone leaving the label. It's just gimmicks anymore.

Twiztid keeps making quality though and now they'll be able to do things they want. So it'll be interesting to see what they can cook up.

ICP survived as the only act in the 90s cuz they were workin on the joker's cards and that created a huge fanbase. then when twiztid came the label got stronger and the acts like twiztid, blaze, abk kept momentum while icp's music was taking a decline after hells pit dropped.

i dont think icps new music is strong enough 2 keep juggalos comin 4 new shit. their back catalog is very strong but twiztid was carrying on the new music while icp just put out cds people wanted 2 collect. every album after hells pit most buyers listened 2 the albums and never got into them like the old shit.

the label is gonna probably get smaller without twiztids revenue. the label was very different before the internet and twiztid. they had a cool successful music thing going. but for icp to be the only act 2 carry the label that is gonna require icp to really deliver music cuz they will be the only main act on the label.

if u understand wat im sayin you know we might see a decline in album and ticket sales and probably smaller gatherings. alot of new juggalos are spoiled and our used to how big the label is but it got this way with a lot of twiztid help.

after the 6th dropped and esham came around violent j got his flow back on lotus "black rain" and the first abk album. even psychopathics from outerspace 2 he was killing it. hopefully that J can come back with good music