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Hatchetman Symbolism & Significance
December 18, 2012
9:15 am
MrLostman17
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The symbol that many juggalos bear may have a deeper meaning than "repping the hatchet".

 

Some quick history, 

Wikipedia: Psychopathic Records, read the 'Establishment' section

(I know it's Wikipedia but it's legit) & ("Behind the Paint", Violent J autobiography)

 

Anyways, the creation of this symbol was inspired by a single human being and the life events that lead up to his career at the time, a paperboy. So consider this, every human being, event, and circumstance leading up to those isolated events that ICP witnessed (the paperboy acting like a loony) inspired a symbol that now resonates to this very day in the consciousness of many, many people. This thought alone insists that every human being on this planet that interacts with others, may very well change the entire consciousness of the masses. We all matter to this existence every second we live, and even a little bit after we die (lol).

 

With this idea in mind, let's take a look into the hatchetman's design. We know why it looks the way it does, except the 'meat cleaver' is not addressed. I'm sure we have all heard this question or 'diss' before. Most of us with half a brain even asked this ourselves.. WHY THE FUCK DOES THE HATCHETMAN HOLD A MEATCLEAVER, NOT A HATCHET? We can all assume the ICP are fucking stupid asses and didn't know the difference. Regardless of that speculation, a "hatchetman" doesn't necessarily have to have a hatchet.

A "hatchetman" is a slang term meaning; A person who does a job nobody else wants to do, and/or a hired killer, killer with purpose.

Sounds very relevant to ICPs lyrics and career choice IMO. Also, it applies to many juggalos and their hardships.

 

Let's address a deeper aspect of its design. Many like to poke jokes at the fact the hatchetman looks like a swastika. THEY MUST BE NAZIS!!!

No, the swastika is an ancient symbol for spiritual victory, peace, and universal energy. 

http://reclaimtheswastika.com/symbolism/

Educate yourselves about the significance of the swastika, I'm not gonna waste my time. That link might help though. Anyways, if you check the link you can see that the swastika has a positive and negative symbolic meaning, and the hatchetman runs typically like the positive swastika. Just like Hitler borrowed this powerful symbol, perhaps the ICP by the will of the Dark Carnival, or their will alone manifested this awesome connection.

 

One final thought about the swastika, if any of you are familiar with the "Fibonacci Sequence", it's a mathematical 'theory' that is found in almost all aspects of life. When this concept is illustrated it forms an infinite spiral. With the idea that this sequence is in all of nature and we take a look into the cosmos you might notice that our galaxy looks like a spiral. The swastika may very well be a simplified version of this idea. Infinity.

 

Wicked Clowns will never die? With help of the hatchetman symbol, maybe not. We all know how powerful symbols are in human history, and the hatchetman is brilliant. Thank (insert interpretation of God, gods, energy, or w/e you're thankful for here) for those napkins and Shaggy 2 Dope.

 

If I didn't address any other aspects of the hatchetman please comment, I'd like to reflect/research more! Opinions are welcome, don't be afraid to challenge me.

December 18, 2012
9:40 am
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LOL at not gonna waste my time. I'd hope by now most people would know that symbol has been around for thousands of years.

 

Interesting insights here.

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December 18, 2012
11:25 am
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doesnt matter if swastikas once had another meaning in another context, it now means, nazi.  period. 

same for the rebel flag.  the court of public opinion doesnt give a fuck how much pride you have in the south, the flag was, and still is, used as a proprietary symbol by hate groups.  trying to act like it really means something else is ludicrous. 

 

as to the etymology of 'hatchetman,' as opposed to 'meat cleaver man,' it just rolls of the tongue easier.  that, and, we are dumb. 

i dont remember anyone at psychopathic using the term hatchetman until 99 or so.  or myzery, in shockumentary, 'the little running man, with the hatchet.'  im not real sure if its something the juggalos popularized, or if thats what psy has been calling it all along...

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

December 18, 2012
4:54 pm
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scruffy said:

doesnt matter if swastikas once had another meaning in another context, it now means, nazi.  period.

 

not everywhere, in South Korea there are swastikas all over the streets, it means happiness.

but yeah, nazis fucked this up

December 18, 2012
8:19 pm
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Lostman, you'd love the DC tarot cards...jussayin 0:)

 

Intrigued!

December 19, 2012
4:09 pm
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would you rather he holds a meat clever?

or should they have went with the paper delivery logo?

mad paperboy records i think it was

December 19, 2012
5:30 pm
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Wasn't the main figure used for the "Hatchetman" an old Native American symbol modified to hold a hatchet/clever?

December 19, 2012
5:48 pm
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VoiceNameless said:

Wasn't the main figure used for the "Hatchetman" an old Native American symbol modified to hold a hatchet/clever?

it looks allot like the Kokopelli but its never been said if thats what inspired it…

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December 19, 2012
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Of course Hatchetman is Native American, he's red.

December 19, 2012
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December 19, 2012
7:51 pm
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hahaha i can see stephen a smith going " YOU ARE SOOOOO DISRESPECTFUL!!!"

December 19, 2012
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That's always been a joke I made, because he's red I'd call him native and because he has a big nose I'd call him Jewish.

December 21, 2012
6:18 pm
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scruffy said:

doesnt matter if swastikas once had another meaning in another context, it now means, nazi.  period. 

same for the rebel flag.  the court of public opinion doesnt give a fuck how much pride you have in the south, the flag was, and still is, used as a proprietary symbol by hate groups.  trying to act like it really means something else is ludicrous. 

 

as to the etymology of 'hatchetman,' as opposed to 'meat cleaver man,' it just rolls of the tongue easier.  that, and, we are dumb. 

i dont remember anyone at psychopathic using the term hatchetman until 99 or so.  or myzery, in shockumentary, 'the little running man, with the hatchet.'  im not real sure if its something the juggalos popularized, or if thats what psy has been calling it all along...

It scares a lot of people when they look up the meaning of Nazi. 

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December 21, 2012
6:36 pm
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This is what the new symbol for the  4th Reich is gonna look like. After they go door to door taking away peoples assault rifles after the bill passes in january. Ya'll know that cops are now allowed to stick their fingers in ya asshole in routine traffic stops? Theres video in texas of these two women getting finger raped tsa style, and the cops didn't even change gloves in between the women. So our 2nd and 4th amendments are going out the window. Heil Obama!

December 21, 2012
6:42 pm
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Slumerican502 said:

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This is what the new symbol for the  4th Reich is gonna look like. After they go door to door taking away peoples assault rifles after the bill passes in january. Ya'll know that cops are now allowed to stick their fingers in ya asshole in routine traffic stops? Theres video in texas of these two women getting finger raped tsa style, and the cops didn't even change gloves in between the women. So our 2nd and 4th amendments are going out the window. Heil Obama!

are you sure theyre now allowed that?? i thought in the vid they were pressing charges & had a good shot of "winning" 

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December 21, 2012
6:48 pm
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Well in that particular case yes. One of the women caught an infection and they kinda backed away. But it is going on in multiple states right now. I don't think its the case here in kentucky.....yet.

One thing we do have going is not all cops are evil power hungry hate mongers.

December 21, 2012
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as long as they dont come across someone who isnt white....surprised

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December 21, 2012
6:54 pm
Cabal
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Amerikkka has always been Nazi

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December 21, 2012
6:56 pm
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even when we killed hitler??

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December 21, 2012
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Well at least in Nazi Germany they got you in private before you were raped. This is happening out in public now. I swear I'm thinking of moving to canada or mexico when my daughter turns 18......prolly canada. How is it up there?

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