Karacalla said

Old Mr Dangerous said
Also, no way I believe the "they weren't happy with the end product so they're redoing some of it" line... if that's the case, we wouldn't have had a lot of tracks on both Missing Links ever surface. Also, dont forget the inevitable outtakes cds.

Also, none of us here are ICP. None of us has ever ran a huge record label that dealt with manufacturing, distribution and a million other facets. We dont have any idea all of the cooperation and business deals that go into this. That being said, ICP run a particularly unique business model. As noted above, most other modern musicians dont adhere to their model of actual compact disc release and such. 

It's not any kind of conspiracy, panic attack crisis, or drama.

The truth is (AS ALWAYS), it is probably more boring than we would even care to know.  

 So an additional four months is needed to put the finial touches on an near complete album?!?!

Please.

J probably hit twitter and Instagram and was kicking around song ideas with no actual music behind them. That Picture could have been taking months ago, If you need an addition four months, that in itself speaks volumes. What J said in that recent interview is probably the actual truth, they strung us all along, toured and probably made a track or two here and there on the road for the project. They knew that release date at TGOTJ was complete bullshit.

OR

 They weren't already happy with the finial product and saw the fans reactions to the first official songs and stalled the release. This is the more logical approach for me considering what a dud TMML was. A Ninja on youtube was at some concert earlier in the month in West Palm Beach that had Vanilla Ice, some country dudes and MEC. He asked Vanilla Ice some questions but the gold was in the short interview with MEC, The question was did he have any real input on FFF and he replied nothing substantial other than a couple beats he submitted. He went on to say that was only because of personal things going on in his life and his hectic tour scheduled, he said the clowns reached out to him recently and he is going into the studio with them when his tour obligations are over in mid November!!!!!! It was some random vid on Youtube, but that one statement leads me to believe their confidence in the album was shaky to begin with and they prolonged it to work around MEC's schedule.     

If any of that is true, then, I think the delay is a great idea. Recognizing they need to go kick it in the studio with MEC and get the real "band" back together? We all bust nuts over that. Add Legs Diamond in there and we'll be bustin' more nuts than the Nutcracker on Christmas day. 

chops said
If that’s true about mec then they can delay it till oct 26 2019 for all i care. Having mec do this album would be great.   

You have 666 forum posts as of that post.

Amen, brotha. I like me some Mike P, Esham, Kuma, Seven... even a touch of Otis. But having Legs and Mike Clark in that piece would definitely promote a sense of joy for us all.

The thing about MEC's production is... even if you prefer another producer OVER MEC... you still relent and are at least pleasantly optimistic by default. It's like "well, I can sit back. Because this will at least be semi-awesome-as-fuck." 

Mike E. Clark is soul food. It feels right. It relaxes. You know that even though it may not be a revolutionary new flavor (or it will) but it will give you satiety and peace of mind when baked with that Nutty Jester Squad. 

Mec sucks. His beats have sounded like shit for a while they sound uninspired. FFF will be trash, there's a reason why it was pushed back again. I don't even care to hear it

GOOD NEWS FAHM!

ESHAM THE UNHOLY IS ALL UP & DOWN RED FRED PRODUCTION AND BEATS!

OH BTW!!

DJ PAUL ALSO WORKED ON THIS ALBUM!

DJ PAUL + ESHAM

BEZT JOKERZ CARD EVER

WATCH

Old Mr Dangerous said
On the insert CD sleeve, there is a picture of Westboro Baptist Church leader Fred Phelps in a red shirt.

I like to think that half of them wanted their leader to be Christopher Walken, and the other half wanted it to be Colonel Sanders and they eventually said "fuck it, we'll meet in the middle."

kukluxklown said
OH BTW

 

 NOT ONLY IS DJ PAUL & ESHAM ALL OVER RED FRED

 

BUT........... THE REASON THE ALBUM WAS PUSHED BACK IS BECAUSE THEY HAD TO "SCRUB" LYTE OFF THE RECORD

 

YUP. LYTE WAS ON SEVERAL TRACKS AND HES OFF THE LABEL. SO THEY COULDNT RELEASE FRED WITH LYTE VERSES ON THE TRACKS STILL.  

Sou....eh, excuse me...SOURCE?

THE TRUTH IS ALL PERVASIVE

TRANSCENDING TIME & SPACE

DOES NOT REQUIRE PROOF OR BEND TO CIRCUMSTANCE

.... LYTE IS OFF PSY .... EVERYONE KNOWS THIS BY NOW

HE WAS ALREADY RECORDED FOR FFF FITE BACK!   SEE FITE BACK PROMO SQUAD PIC....

RECORD COULD NOT BE RELEASED WITH LYTE ON A FEW TRACKS

THATS WHY NOTHING WAS SAID AND NO EXCUSE GIVEN

SAME THING WITH YOUNG WIGGLER AND SHAGGZ ALBUM

HAD TO SCRUB THEM OFF.   SORRY! LYTE WAS OK

LIKED HIM WITH OUIJA,  BUT HE GOT CAUGHT IN DRAMA

HES BEGGING MNE TO SIGN HIM AND THEY WONT

NOW HE APPLYING FOR JOB AT DETROIT LOCAL RECORD STORE

AND BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.

FFF WILL BE DOPE WITH ESHAM AND DJ PAUL

PSY WILL SIGN CHOIRBOY DANK AND YAYA GREMLIN

If Magik Ninja Entertainment will sign Young Wicked, they will sign ANYONE. 

Hopefully he gets some cider. 

Old Mr Dangerous said

You have 666 forum posts as of that post.

Amen, brotha. I like me some Mike P, Esham, Kuma, Seven... even a touch of Otis. But having Legs and Mike Clark in that piece would definitely promote a sense of joy for us all.

The thing about MEC's production is... even if you prefer another producer OVER MEC... you still relent and are at least pleasantly optimistic by default. It's like "well, I can sit back. Because this will at least be semi-awesome-as-fuck." 

Mike E. Clark is soul food. It feels right. It relaxes. You know that even though it may not be a revolutionary new flavor (or it will) but it will give you satiety and peace of mind when baked with that Nutty Jester Squad.   

I feel im in the better position here. I dont know who produced any of the many albums. Nor do i care. As soon as you read the name its going to flip a switch in your head that will say this would be more awesome if they had this producer and give it less of a chance. I challenge all of you to give a few listens and give an honest opinion before reading the booklet. But some of you will be able to tell right off rip so its a little unfair. Its a biased opinion.