Bonesaw Wizardstick said
Another less mature example is the word “fanny.”  In the States, it means “butt.”  In the UK, it means “vagina.”  Same language, though.  

You forgot “fanny pack” too…that could also be be associated with cameltoe too.

You did say vagina, but i wanted to remind people of that lame song of yesteryear, lmjao

Do we know those were cuts from FFF?

cRyPtiC_tHe_CLoWn said
I’d love MEC, but it’s true. Juggalos hated Bang Pow Boom and Death Pop.

Did they hate the beats, lyrics, or both?

I thought they were super dope both lyrically and beat wise.

The problem is they don’t sound dark. They sound very upbeat and poppish and ICP does’t sound spooky/angry, just standard rapping in their voices. 

I think juggalos just want some spooky atmospheric effects and the clowns to put some mania and anger in their raps. That’s probably the issue, the vibe isn’t “wicked”.   

I always felt like BPB got a bad rap because Juggalos’ feelings are in it. I know three ninjas personally who dug it until it was retconned as the first card of a new 6, then started hating hard even though I was in the car with them when they were rocking and jocking it. For me personally, its still my favorite of the new deck, even though I loathe Juggalo Island and the magnets line made me shake my head years before the meme. 

I really disliked Death Pop when it dropped, and I tried to force myself to like it. There’s a lot of neat concepts there, but it was that sound, man. It’s arguably the most danceable, and the genuine wicked shit is parceled out scarcely. I gained appreciation for it at GOT17- our neighbors were festival hopping psych selling hippies with a huge sound system who would play EDM all night and make me want to kill them, but during the day they would play random ICP albums, with Death Pop among them. On a big, clean system you can really pick up on the subtle complexities of the music, and there’s a lot of it. It’s arguably their best produced album, even if I didn’t dig it. Listen to it next to Lost with a discriminate ear, and Lost seems sloppy by comparison.

If MEC brings that kind of focus to Furious Fredrick the Fearless and puts a sharp edge to the production and themes this might be the one that I’mma fucks with heavier than BPB as far as the new 6 goes.

Yeah I agree with you guys about Lost. There’s so much that’s baffling to me on that record.
Like, how did they think that flow (or rather, NON-flow) on the track Lost was good?
Why would they use that really awful shitty 808 on Confederate Flag, that is like a transitional kind of 808 not the MAIN BASS-LINE 808.
Why is Shock so short, it seems to be missing a huge portion of the story, the beat is dope during the verses, but the chorus..and the beat during the chorus is a raging trashfire.
The song How..just..”I don’t wanna die and burn in hell I wanna live honorable and do well.” They have too many yes men surrounding them, they need a homie to be like, guys that is cringey as fuck, just no. (Not necessarily JUST the lyrics that make me cringe, the delivery is just flat-out bad too.)
I can keep going on but I will wrap it up with this, it pisses me off that they ruined the AWESOME Kuma beat for You Should Know. The song is just dumb, and that chorus..”I just wanted to come clean before I take your HEEEYYYAAAANND” *facepalm*

There were so many better songs on the Outtakes album that they could’ve replaced those tracks with, but they OK’d them all and just shit them out onto a CD like they could give a fuck less about quality.

They need to make music that they would bump.

For sure. scruffy and I have talked about how you can throw your favorite cuts from Lost, Found, Outtakes and perhaps even a few from Phantom on a playlist and do your own Build-a-Joker’s Card  that’s a much more cohesive listening experience. 

Between Kuma, Se7en (both stellar beat makers) and Young Wicked, it’s a too-many-cooks situation. You can see that old Insane Clown Proclivity towards attempting to innovate their own unique sound by cherry picking contemporary musical styles. Se7en made a lot of good shit with Prozak, Bukshot, Tech and Twiztid, leading up to Lost. He was a natural first-round draft pick for the clowns. Kuma’s contribution to Juggalo music speaks for itself. Young Wicked floated a career (two if you think about it) that could have hit a sharp downturn by producing his own mixtapes that made noise in the underground. 

Now take the clowns out of it and imagine those dudes doing a collaborative mixtape. It would sound weird as fuck. As talented as they are individually, their individual styles are way different, to the point of clashing. Se7en can be arguably as versatile as MEC, but without solid direction he shoots from the hip and you can tell the Clowns were just going for a shot of fresh young blood. I wanna blame Young Wicked for the dubstep influence, since that shows in his other work, but you’re applying a style that was already losing momentum as a trend to rappers whose technique is from an older, neigh-incompatible era of rap. Ironically, Esham had done this years earlier, when the sound was fresher, with greater competency. The end result for ICP was something that sounded weird and dated when it was brand new. On the flip side of that, ‘I See the Devil’ takes obvious cues from 80’s pop. This is a sound J is lovingly familiar with, and in my opinion, the best song on those albums. I’ve joked for years that it’s a great Peter Gabriel track.

Then again, Found is my favorite Katy Perry album, so.

TheFvckinKreeper said
For sure. scruffy and I have talked about how you can throw your favorite cuts from Lost, Found, Outtakes and perhaps even a few from Phantom on a playlist and do your own Build-a-Joker’s Card  that’s a much more cohesive listening experience.

I did that a while ago, thought hard about it and this is what I chose to go with (I only considered Lost, Found and The Outtakes).

Ever since, this is Lost for me and I think it’s the bomb. By far not their best work, but still. Just listen to it in this order and dont bother when a few changeovers arent that smooth (naturally, as it wasnt planned to be like this).
Usually I hesitate to change the playlist of an album, but I think on Lost AND Found they did a bad job, to me at least. So I mixed both up.

SPOOKYtheFUNGI said
@pondo did you go to the “spray the uk” tour last year?  

 @spookythefungi hell yeah I did! I wrote about the experience here , as it was the first chance to see them live in fifteen years (and fifteen years ago I was too young to make it). It was fucking unreal! I even happened to talk with almost all of them at a bar, where the whole crew showed up in the dead of the night. It was fuckin awesome.

SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

Another thing, that i dont know what its called, would be something like………what comes to mind first when i say the word “ice cube”?    Would you think of water frozen in your freezer or would you think of the rapper from N.W.A/friday movies  

Those ambiguities can be tough for real. The example of Ice Cube is easy in comparison, because the meaning is so different. But many times I realized very late that this or that word is usually used in a different way than I originally thought. “cry” for instance. It took forever until I realized it doesnt only mean “shout” or “yell”, but mainly to shed tears. You can tell, it can be very confusing when you read something in some story or whatnot and the meaning of a word simply seem to not fit at all in the context – although you think you’re sure about the translation.

Karacalla said

I don’t think those tracks will have any indication of what we can expect from FFF, if that was the case, “Its all over” would have set the tone for TMDP.  

I don’t follow your logic. It’s all over was on bang pow boom. It wasn’t an unreleased song given away on tour. Or am I missing something?

A better example woulda been FUCK DEM with marz from the b/b tour sounding like the wraith but even that fails because they weren’t already promoting the wraith when they released it.

cRyPtiC_tHe_CLoWn said
Fearless Fred Fury Tracklist Revealed:

1) Intro

2) FFF

3) Cusswords

4) No Fear

5) Toxic

6) Hair Up

7) Southwest Slam

8) Flip the Rat

9) The eMeNeE

10) Furious (Featuring Lyte, Ouija Macc)

11) Down Town Clown Frown

12) Night of the Crowbar

13) D-struction (featuring ESHAM)

14) Breath  

Nice, that one is pretty believable.

You are talking about the times when they had major label support, they are on their own these days. 

MASTERWEEDO said
You are talking about the times when they had major label support, they are on their own these days.   

This is a very valid point, but I have to suspect they’re doing well enough to afford the same type of promotion…? Again, they may be doing well enough, but that $ is going to other endeavours.