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December 1, 2014
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In my day the Juggalo title used to mean something to us juggalos. In today’s world the meaning of the term has changed, drastically. Nobody under the Psychopathic label takes their music seriously anymore. Violent J has talentless artists, such as DJ Clay, pumping out remixed cds, featuring music that isn’t even his and turning it into garbage. They’ve also brought in artists such as Big Who Cares who has absolutely no rap talent at all. Adding “talent” such as this stains the label in my opinion, you would think J would care about how older juggalos view what he worked to build, but it seems to be the complete opposite. 

For him to let Twiztid leave.. not only is that beyond me but it might have been the final nail in the coffin for Psychopathic. Sure there still gliding along making money and doing shows but there’s no heart to it anymore. It’s a shell of its former self and J probably knows it, hence the Killjoy Club.

The last solid album that came from Psy was WICKED. Everything since has been watered down garbage. When did everyone go tone deaf?

And Violent J hasn’t dropped a solid album since Hell’s Pit. Have fun with the last 4 cards guys.

Who really runs Psy? The guy making music aka DJ Clay. He’s horrible at not only making music but the music he is given he absolutely butchers beyond coherence. How can anyone listen to his shit mash-ups and remixes? God only knows… and for God’s sake the man stole a line from a Dark Lotus song (notice I say stole because it wasn’t his song) and made a piece of garbage song with Blaze in it. You “juggalos” eat it up like its some dope ass shit… wtf 

This is all my opinion of course, let the haters hate.  

December 1, 2014
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LOL

In your day…

please…

I’ve probably been down twice as long as you…

Don’t like it, don’t buy it, simple as that, others do, who are you to judge? If you’re as old school as you claim then you should be mature enough to not waste your time posting this bullshit. So which is it? Are you a childish punk who’s balls never dropped or are you a lil ass kid pretending to be old school?

I don’t like ABK but I don’t sit here trashing his shit.

TBH, ICP hasn’t put out a great full album since Milenko but I still find great tracks on every release.

Oh, and DJ Clay is a DJ, hence the DJ in his name. That’s what DJ’s do, they remix other people’s music and put their own twist on it, obviously you’re not very smart either.

December 1, 2014
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How exactly could J have kept Twiztid from leaving?

 

Why do you think DJ Clay has any say in Psychopathic? J still wears the pants, let @wonka69 school you on that.

 

No one gives a fuck about DJ Clays mixtapes, why else do you think they had to put songs from them on FF5 so people could actually hear them?

 

Abominationz > W.I.C.K.E.D.

 

Nothing’s changed but the times man, people ALWAYS think things were better “back in the day,” that’s just how the human brain works.

 

DJ Clay definitely sucks though, I’ll agree with you there.

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ICPosse8 said
In my day the Juggalo title used to mean something to us juggalos. …

Your profile shows you are only 22 years old. -> https://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/…../ICPosse8/

You were just being born when ICP was starting out.

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December 1, 2014
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Theres no questions this post is stupid and this guy is only trolling, but even I’ll admit psychopathic will never be what they were back in the wraith era. Even with that being said IMHO, I think Twiztid is near their best right now and im more in love with ICP now then Ive ever been… even with most of the mystery gone and all. P.S. Im not a fan of DJ Clay or Hoodo either… but I wouldnt say they’re talentless.

December 2, 2014
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What the fuck does age have to do with anything? ‘Back in my day’ hence the word in that phrase, MY, not referring to when YOU think back in the day was. Whether I’m 22 or 40 doesn’t make a difference when you have absolutely no clue who is really behind the posts and what their life is like. So please, don’t bring up age and “how down” you are again because in reality it makes you seem just as childish and immature as your making me out to be. 

I clearly stated this was my opinion and if my trashing certain artists or aspects of psy make me not loved than so be it. All of your opinions mean about as much as dog shit to me as well. Signing these artists and releasing these cds (6 more cards..?) is all business but along the lines they lost there touch, their image. Maybe I’m harsh but w/e 

December 2, 2014
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scruffy said, way back when, but it stays relevant nonetheless   
its funny how ‘old school’ los will sit around like grandpa and his drinking buddies, talkin, ‘in my day everything was better, now its all fucked up.’ 
i even do that shit sometimes. 
the problem with claimin to be old school or whatever is that it means ADMITTING THAT YOUR DAY HAS PASSED.  we old fucks are acting like old fucks, and we complain when the kids dont wanna act the same.    

ignore the last sentence.  the shit applies to young fucks who talk like old fucks, too.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

December 2, 2014
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ICPosse8 said

Who really runs Psy? The guy making music aka DJ Clay.

The fuck are you talking about? DJ Clay runs Psychopathic? Idc if you’ve been an ICP fan for 20 minutes or 20 years, your opinions are pretty worthless until you get some facts straight. Or at the very least, are willing to learn the facts. I’m open to educating you, but if you don’t even wanna hear it then I won’t bother.

More to the point, it’s interesting to me that when The Wraith was revealed I saw people saying, “Extending it into two albums is such a money grab!” and now it’s common for people to say that Hell’s Pit is the last good ICP album. Then when The Tempest came out, I saw it said that “Getting away from the Dark Carnival is such a money grab!” (though I would argue that The Tempest is right inline with the Dark Carnival mythos, but that’s a separate discussion). And now that they are doing more Joker’s Cards, some are saying, “Going back to the Dark Carnival is such a money grab!”. Here’s some news for you people: “money grabs” are impossible at this point. What were the biggest selling albums in Psychopathic history? Great Milenko and Jeckel Brothers. Did anyone cry “money grab” when those came out? What motivation would ICP have now to do anything other than what they genuinely think would please their fans? Do you think their business strategy is to piss off the Juggalos, lose them, and never sell another album or concert ticket? Think about how fuckin lucky we are that this thing we love has been around for something like 24 years with no desire to stop. Even if you don’t like the new music, what’s a better scenario? That after The Wraith ICP just retired and the rest of the albums just cease to be? If you love Riddle Box, know that Riddle Box wouldn’t have been what it was if it weren’t for everything, good and bad, that happened to them as artists leading up to that. By that same token, Riddle Box wouldn’t be what it was if it weren’t for everything, good and bad, that has happened since then. See how that works? Without Bang! Pow! Boom!, without Twiztid leaving, without Big Hoodoo, nothing that already happened would’ve happened the way that it did. You can’t just pick and choose your favorite parts and say, “Why couldn’t it ALL be just the way I wanted!” Grow up. That’s fuckin baby talk. Don’t forget that 99% of the people who know who ICP is fuckin hates them. What if they had the kind of power that you wish you had? There would BE no ICP. There would BE no Riddle Box. There would BE no Twiztid (as we know them). There would BE no Gatherings or Christmas parties or Hallowickeds or fuckin anything, just because someone thought it sucked. Well I like the new Psychopathic shit and I embrace the way everything unfolds because it’s fuckin interesting. Do Radiohead fans have as interesting a time as this? Fuck no. For better or worse, just be thankful for what you have here, because the “worst” is a couple of albums you can choose not to play. I’m all for intelligent criticisms. I could make some myself. Violent J could make some himself. But to say something like “The last solid album that came from Psy was WICKED” is so fucking meaningless because it’s an opinion that is so specific to you. It’s such a broad statement that you’ve just wasted your finger muscles typing it because obviously there’s no way to quantify how “solid” something is. Do you get what I’m saying? If somebody thinks, for instance, that Gang Rags is a solid album, what are you gonna do, argue with that person that they’re wrong about what they like? I can’t imagine when in your life acting like that has ever paid off. Then you throw in this caveat, “This is all my opinion of course, let the haters hate” so that you can play that card if anyone disagrees you, but it’s such a cop out. I’m not hating on you; if I hated you I wouldn’t give a shit what you said. As a Juggalo I care about your opinion enough to tell you that you’re focusing on the wrong things and that’s what’s hurting your appreciation for the music.

Sorry, I’m long winded. When it comes to Psychopathic issues I could talk for as long as someone will let me…

December 2, 2014
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ICPosse8 said 

This is all my opinion of course, let the haters hate.  

@icposse8 , I was jumping in on your invitation. I’m just trying to be an effective hater.

ICPosse8 said
… So please, don’t bring up age and “how down” you are again because in reality it makes you seem just as childish and immature as your making me out to be….

I would never say “how down” I am. But about the childish thing, I will always be childish. It makes life fun. There is a freshness that you see everywhere when you look through child’s eyes. Everything has that magic that most people lose as they grow older.

For my opinion, (even if it means about as much as dog shit to you), I agree with @yakkattack on liking where Twiztid is going and I like everything ICP does. I don’t care about their business model and stuff. I enjoy the music and the family. (I even like DJ Clay and Hoodoo).

 

Anyway, most opinion posts bring the “haters” out of the wood works cause 100 people will have 100 different opinions with every one being more right than all the others. Being a public forum, it is expected.

You’ve been a member for about 3 months and most likely been a lurker for longer. Stop by more often and join in the fun. Even the heated opinion posts can be fun. We all argue with each other on here a lot of the time. It won’t stop the friendship we really have for each other.

You know, actually, you aren’t really a forum member until @randy-gall validates one of your posts by trolling it. So until then, MMFWCL!

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LuckyNumbrXIII said
I choose you, randy gall

“Randy Gall uses karate, man!

It’s not very effective…”

December 2, 2014
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Nemo said

LuckyNumbrXIII said
I choose you, randy gall

“Randy Gall uses karate, man!
It’s not very effective…”

You obviously never joined battle against the Gall

DA Gaaallll

I'll fuck you till you love me, Faggot!

-Tyson

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ICPosse8 said
What the fuck does age have to do with anything? ‘Back in my day’ hence the word in that phrase, MY, not referring to when YOU think back in the day was. Whether I’m 22 or 40 doesn’t make a difference when you have absolutely no clue who is really behind the posts and what their life is like. So please, don’t bring up age and “how down” you are again because in reality it makes you seem just as childish and immature as your making me out to be. 

I clearly stated this was my opinion and if my trashing certain artists or aspects of psy make me not loved than so be it. All of your opinions mean about as much as dog shit to me as well. Signing these artists and releasing these cds (6 more cards..?) is all business but along the lines they lost there touch, their image. Maybe I’m harsh but w/e 

So why even post your opinion on here at all, if you don’t care about the responses?

 

Also, if you could please define when “back in your day” was, so that we may better understand where you’re coming from.

You remind me of my friends, they still love the old music, but hate the new stuff. I will be honest, I don’t like DJ Clay’s music, I don’t like ABK’s new music, I don’t like Boondox or Hoodoo, so I don’t buy that music. IMO opinion I think psy has lost its touch in finding new, interesting talent, but I still enjoy ICP’s records (except The Tempest, fuck that album” because every one of them is a bit different and has a different sound. I really hope this new record is great, but if it’s not, I’m not going to complain.

 

You’ve probably changed just as much since “your day” as they have.

December 2, 2014
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piggofdoom said  
You’ve probably changed just as much since “your day” as they have.    

more.  

larger percentage of overall life experience.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

December 2, 2014
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ICPosse8 said 
For him to let Twiztid leave..  You “juggalos” eat it up like its some dope ass shit… wtf 
 

Hey partyclown, have you ever had the pleasure of meeting Twiztid? Nobody LETS them do anything. And on behalf of we “juggalos,” ABK has a great take on critics on Psypher 3: “motha fucka if you really try n stop our shine guarantee you at the end you’ll be fallin behind, here goes a hot 16 straight tellin the truth now rewrite yo rap book and lock yo self in the booth bitch.”

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December 2, 2014
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k um where do I start….His whole post pissed me off. Let me just say this I don’t give a fuck how long someone’s been down as long as they know their history and what juggalos r all about. I will say this as someone who knows some of the inner workings of psychopathic I can tell u right now you don’t have the slightest clue of wtf your talking about. Also if you think Twiztid is killing shit right now and psychopathic ain’t then your a last fkn cause.

December 2, 2014
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lmao what an asshole…i feel like some people just can’t accept the fact that some people know more shit then them. why does that bother you? I have a good homie of mine at psychopathic whom I have regular contact with who let’s me know  shit here n there that the general public dosnt know. believe me don’t believe me…i really don’t give a fuck.

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LuckyNumbrXIII said
you know what this reminds me of?  being in the playground in kindergarten and someone will be like, “i have an uncle that works at nintendo and he said in super mario bros 4, you can play as the ninja turtles!”

The game was cancelled because that asshole let the secret out.

 

The demo floating around is fresh though.  Better than Bio Force Ape

December 2, 2014
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
you know what this reminds me of?  being in the playground in kindergarten and someone will be like, “i have an uncle that works at nintendo and he said in super mario bros 4, you can play as the ninja turtles 

DID U READ ANYTHING I SAID? i never told you i was gonna tell you shit. When your homie tells you something in confidence do you just go out telling that shit to everyone? NO YOU DONT…because hes your HOMIE. Unless SNITCHING is your thing buddy. My entire point is whoever started this thread was talking out of his/her ass and really has no clue what theyre saying.

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