There's two sets of juggalos because there's two sets of ICP. The 90's hardcore f the world era of ICP and the 00's family soft sellout singing smoking weed we love the world era of ICP. They're different from each other and so are the fanbases. ICP used to mock what they eventually became and now don't like who they used to be. Guess that's the story of all of us when we get older if we were rebellious. So I understand. It's like you rebel so long you end up hating yourself and wanna be more positive.

The juggalos from the 90's were more aggressive and in it for the hardcore music and jokes. They weren't looking for ICP to change their lives with messages and once the music started slippin' most left. 00's+ juggalos are in it for the message and a place to belong. Seems like the music is secondary to the lifestyle these days. Back then juggalo chants were random stuff to entertain ourselves and make ourselves laugh. Now it's all just family chants. Even ICP barely cracks jokes anymore in songs because they themselves take themselves more seriously where as back in the day every song they did was humorous. Their motto back then was 'we don't keep it real, we keep it entertaining". Now it's the opposite. They lived the insane clown don't give a fuck gimmick back then where as now they want to be accepted and normal. Plus J started smoking weed around Shangri-La and started getting real soft along with raising a family.

People in either camp shouldn't be fighting though. What's the point? Like what you like and leave it at that.

I don't know why they'd still claim that considering 98% their music for years now has been neither, wicked, funny, or entertaining. It's like ICP's music these days is made for J's own kids and kids in general. Or they're rapping about how cool they are and how great everything is when back in the day it was the opposite. Even JCW used to be funny entertaining when it was championshit. Now it's just some low budget indy show that nobody really cares about anymore and isn't entertaining from anything I've seen. Though Corp shares the blame in ruining that.I wouldn't doubt that JCW vol. 1-3 have sold more than all of the recent JCW DVD's combined.

Maybe MDP will get them back on track but a lot of the snippets I heard was more corny happy stuff so my expectations aren't high. I mean J thinks Bang Pow Boom sounds like the old stuff for goodness sakes.