Alex Abbiss – The Definitive Interview

Jelly Nuts: Well, Mr. Abbiss, all the Juggalos know who you are, but why don’t you tell us who you are in your own words, just for the record.

Alex Abbiss: I am the motherfucker that bridges the gap between the world of the Dark Carnival (and Insane Clown Posse, Twiztid, Blaze, Psychopathic Family, etc.), and the real world (Racist pigs, art fag magazine writers, show protesting religious fanatics, and player hating bitches).

Jelly Nuts: Tell me about yourself? how old are you? where were you born?

Alex Abbiss: I was born in Highland Park Michigan. Which for anybody who lives around here would know its gotta be one of the poorest and hardest areas in Michigan. And that happened back in 71, which would make me right about 29.

Jelly Nuts: So how did you end up in the record business?

Alex Abbiss: Well, other than the fact that I always had a love for music, and to answer that question fully would take 10 or 20 pages? So, just so Juggalos get an idea how someone gets started, I would say they should go out and rent the movie “The Industry”.

Jelly Nuts: So you deal with all of ICP’s problems? tell me some of those problems?

Alex Abbiss: The first thing that comes to mind is them god damned lawsuits? It seems like all we do is catch a mutha fuckin? case. On top of the fact that the great majority just doesn’t understand what where about.

Jelly Nuts: Tell me about some of these law suits.

Alex Abbiss: Well, every once in a while there is some curious wanna-be motherfucker that goes down to one of our shows. Any Juggalo knows that there is 2 liters flying from one end of the building to the other? and also at the end of the show ICP calls everyone up on the stage creating a stampeding and trampling effect which can be very entertaining. But this bitch will go to one of the show and come home with a bruise on his booboo, and this punk ass motherfucker is all quick to call and attorney, and we catch the case. A real Juggalo walks out of our show with a little bruise here, a little bang here, but they know what to expect. Its these wannabe mother fuckers that really piss me off.

Jelly Nuts: Has anybody ever won a suit?

Alex Abbiss: Believe it or not, as many suits as they filed, we have always won. We have never lost a law suit yet, or plan on it.

Jelly Nuts: What about this lawsuit with Sharon Osborn?

Alex Abbiss: What suit?

Jelly Nuts: Isn’t she suing you? That?s what she said on Howard Stern!

Alex Abbiss: I never seen any paper work.

Jelly Nuts: I guess that bitch was full of hot air then, huh?

Alex Abbiss: No, she is full of fat.

Jelly Nuts: This is kinda related to the law suits. A lot of angry mothers write in saying that ICP is responsible for youth crime, suicide, and a whole list of other problems. What can you say to that?

Alex Abbiss: I talk my self with as many mothers as I can personally, and after they get done talking to me they realize ICP hasn’t hurt their children, that ICP has probably saved their children?s lives, and taught them something good.

Jelly Nuts: Well, speaking of teaching, what does the message of the Dark Carnival mean to you personally?

Alex Abbiss: First of all, examine the words? “Dark Carnival”. Just because the Carnival is “Dark” and its means ruthless, and also at times wicked? the Dark Carnival is actually a force for good. Now examine the word Carnival. When you think of a Carnival, you think of people, freak shows, entertainment, rides, games, almost like the world we live in. So as far as I am concerned, the message of the dark carnival is: watch what you are doing and just basically be a good person, and don?t fuck other people over? cause if you do, you will be judged, and you will get the total bone.

The Dark Carnival openly reveals to us that there are evils that we encounter throughout our lives and in ourselves, and that it is up to us to make a change within ourselves and how we treat others. The Dark Carnival isn’t a religion, but it is very real. And I feel it is something that all should believe in addition to their own religious beliefs.

Jelly Nuts: Why do you think that people so often misinterpret the message of the Dark Carnival, and think that it is evil?

Alex Abbiss: I would say the Juggalos understand. And that’s all I really care about. Everybody else seems to be caught up in some type of wave of pop-culture bullshit. Being more concerned who the president is having suck his dick verses what country he is telling our soldiers are gonna go over to, to murder the people who live there.

Jelly Nuts: So tell me, why does everyone who is not a Juggalo hate ICP?

Alex Abbiss: That question is easy to answer. Two reasons? First, it?s a proven fact that it is in man?s nature to hate and want to destroy that which he cannot understand. Straight up, the average person is just too fuckin’ whack to understand the message that Insane Clown Posse is trying to give. The average person has their own views and beliefs, and they don?t want to change. They don?t want to have an open mind about shit. The second reason is because there was never meant to be a great amount of Juggalos. I mean, don?t get me wrong, the more Juggalos the better. But ICP is an underground thing. No MTV, no radio play, no press. Just a few people that are like “I don?t give a fuck what mainstream society says I should or shouldn’t listen too. I am gonna listen to ICP, and I am gonna see ICP in concert!”.

Jelly Nuts: But don?t you sometimes wish that you could be managing someone that is happy friendly and easy to pimp? Like Brittany Spears, or the Backstreet Boys, or REM?

Alex Abbiss: No, I don’t want anything to do with that flavor of a month bullshit. I couldn’t stand the fact that some faggot programmer in New York or LA could hold my destiny in his hands? “hey guys, sorry we ain’t gonna be playing the next single? HAHAHA” and there goes your career down the drain. And on top of that all those groups suck anyway. Don’t get me wrong, there is plenty of bands that I like, but those you just named really buff the pickle.

Jelly Nuts: So what kind of music do you listen to??

Alex Abbiss: Lot of rap, and a little rock. No fuckin’ country?

Jelly Nuts: Is there any bands in particular you like?

Alex Abbiss: West Side Connection, Ice Cube, Easy-E, Notorious BIG, 2Pac, EPMD, Awesome Dre, Dayton Family, ODB, Mystical, Snoop Dogg, etc. The list goes on and on and on?

Jelly Nuts: I have heard that you have had a lot of problems, with, err, how should I say this, Violent J’s mental condition? For example, he threatened to go off the tour unless some freak from the wrestling hotline, whom he has never met, would come on tour with him. How do you deal with that kind of insanity?

Alex Abbiss: Well, straight up, it comes with the job. Its all in the name, Insane Clown Posse. INSANE. Straight up, straight insane, and that?s how it is, and that?s how the life is, that?s how it was, and that?s how it will always be. Straight mother fuckin’ INSANE!!!!

Jelly Nuts: What is the most important thing to ICP?

Alex Abbiss: The Juggalos. Straight up, they love their fans. Unlike other bands that have their head up their asses, ICP always makes sure to look out for their fan?s best interest. From how much our T-shirts cost (they are always down to make less money on a shirt so a fan can buy it cheap as possible) to how much concerts cost (we always take lower guarantees to make tickets as cheap as possible), To our records. If we always sell them as cheap as we can, so our fans can afford to buy them. ICP always checks out their fan mail, stops and listens to what their fans have to say, checks out their email, and tries to be aware of everything the Juggalos are saying. Bottom line, they know we run this thing together. We try to make sure the Juggalos are always happy.

Jelly Nuts: So how do you feel about Violent J and Shaggy starting their own record label, Joe & Joey records, and releasing Psychopathic Rydas and Psychopathics from Outer Space on their own?

Alex Abbiss: Read the titles, think about what happened, and figure it out on your own.

Jelly Nuts: I don?t understand. Figure what out?

Alex Abbiss: I won?t speak on such tactics anymore.

Jelly Nuts: So at some time ICP are bragging how paid they are? Other times they say that they are broke? what is the truth.

Alex Abbiss: The truth is, they make tons of money, but then they do a free show or concert, or some special event, and give it all right back to their fans. Which is a good system, because then their fans take it all back, and spend it back on ICP. Who then takes all the money they make, and gives it back to their fans?. So it is a Win/Win situation. Another example would be our refund for the cancelled JCW dates. Everyone with a ticket can just mail it in, get a full refund, plus $100 in free merchandise.

Jelly Nuts: It seems that ICP just don?t have any luck when it comes to the big shots in the industry.

Alex Abbiss: Nobody, other than the Juggalos, understands ICP. See, all these big record labels are interested in doing is making a quick buck. They are not interested in making something fresh. And the sick thing is, they are not even making money for themselves. They are making money for some rich asshole share-holder in some other country who is sitting in his board room and is willing to fuck anybody over so that his 5 billions dollars might go up to 6.

Jelly Nuts: So, a lot of Juggalos want to know, how much does Psychopathic actually spend a year on bail and criminal attorneys?

Alex Abbiss: A lot, more than we fuckin’ got!

Jelly Nuts: A lot of ninjas in Europe and Asia want to know when ICP will be touring their neck of the woods. They are always bitching and complaining that ICP don?t tour anywhere else.

Alex Abbiss: First of all, we gonna be in Japan come November 2000. So that takes care of Asia. And Europe, we will be there in about a year, come later 2000 when it is cold again? because you all got no air condition so we can?t be touring there in the summer time. It makes the clown makeup run. In the meantime, the European Juggalos can check out http://www.icp-rules.com , our official European website.

Jelly Nuts: OK? Here is a question for you, I have heard that you made an appearance in Big Money Hustlas? can you tell me about that?

Alex Abbiss: Well I ain’t gonna give too much of the film away, but it is true that I make a cameo appearance. I originally had a much bigger role in the film, but I was too busy to play the part? So instead I ended up taking a small cameo appearance? All I can say is just be on the lookout for an awfully jiggy suit? If you want a glimpse of the flavor, the picture taken for this interview was from the set of Big Money Hustlas.

Jelly Nuts: Many of the Juggalos ask how you were able to get ICP hooked up with the WWF and WCW? Many people who have been wrestling for years have never made it so far?

Alex Abbiss: Don?t hate the player, player hater, hate the game. I wanted it to happen, so it did. It?s called skills, and being on point.

Jelly Nuts: So did you just call them and say “What’s up?”, or did you have some connections on the inside?

Alex Abbiss: Sorry man, can?t divulge any of the trade secrets? but it doesn’t matter anyway! JCW! JCW! JCW! On tour now… home video in stores May 9th. http://www.juggalowrestling.com .

Jelly Nuts: Well, speaking of things being revealed, what ever happened to the Juggalo Gathering?

Alex Abbiss: Juggalo Gathering got put on hold until summer time. July 21st and 22nd of 2000, when it will be easy for people to drive from all across the country. When kids are out of school, and the roads aren’t all covered in snow. And besides, we needed the extra 6 months to make it crazy extra live. You won?t be disappointed. Unlike other fuckin’ bands, we work our ass off to make sure everything we do is the bomb.

Jelly Nuts: Why didn’t ICP do a millennium show?

Alex Abbiss: Because, ICP ain’t never been about that. We never play New Years, so why would we play the millennium? Our big Holiday has already passed? that is Halloween, October 31st.

Jelly Nuts: So what did you and ICP do for the millennium?

Alex Abbiss: Well, I myself, I was chillin’ in some other part of the world, getting live! I think J was probably writing some new raps, and Shaggy sharpening his axe collection or something? I don’t fuckin’ know about Shaggy.

Jelly Nuts: A lot of people ask me this question? Why is Shaggy so quiet? Violent J is always doing some interviews, running his big fat mouth? Violent J is always updating the phone lines? Violent J is always writing stuff for the website? Why the fuck don?t we ever hear from Shaggy?

Alex Abbiss: Shaggy?s artistic skills stem through his hands. He draws a lot of ICP related things in his spare time. He also does most of the screaming on the records and live at the shows, so it?s a good match, so that way he could just let his throat rest?

Jelly Nuts: There are a lot of rumors flying around on the internet about ICP. One is that they are going to kill themselves after the 6th Jokers Card. Another is that Shaggy has cancer and is dying? There are many more. Do you have anything to say about such rumors, or any speculation on why ICP tends to have such while rumors surrounding them.

Alex Abbiss: First of all, no one knows what is going to happen after the 6th Jokers Card drops. Including ICP. And I would just say that anything is possible? and then some. As far as all these other whack rumors, its just straight up bullshit. Probably the reason why there is so many rumors about ICP is because of their unique mysteriousness.

Jelly Nuts: So anyway, after the 6th Jokers Card, do you think it will really be the end of the world?

Alex Abbiss: I personally think that it will be something of epic proportions. But in no way will the coming of the 6th Jokers Card be the end of the world. As far as I am concerned, having lived to and seen the year 2000, and having nothing happen, I am very sure that world will never end.

Jelly Nuts: So we all know about the trouble with Disney, but what did you say to Micheal Isner in your private meeting with him?

Alex Abbiss: I told that fuckhead that not even the 50 billion dollar Walt Disney Corporation can stop Insane Clown Posse. I stood up on the guy from across this big conference table, when all of a sudden all my attorneys grabbed me and told me to call down and sit back down because I was ruining the meeting. At that time, the fuckhead was like “You guys better come up with two million dollars or we ain’t gonna give you your Great Milenko album back!” Not that I would of, that I did, but seeing as me an the Posse at the time only had a few thousand between us (the old hard days), we were fucked! I started making a lot of noise in the meeting about when word gets back to the Juggalos that we were gonna burn the Magic Kingdom down. He seemed to take the threat quite seriously, and was like “Find a record label to give us a half a million, and we will give you the album back!” I felt seeing that there was a dozen security guards in the room, and that I got him to move on his number by one and a half million that it was the best I could do. It?s a good thing for him that he had all those security, because if a mother fucker needed to be thugged down by somebody, it would have to be him. That kid is the epitome of a rich snobby bitch. Fuck him! Fuck Micheal Isner. And fuck Mickey Mouse too.

Jelly Nuts: So the power of the Juggalos helped intimidate one of the most powerful men in show business.

Alex Abbiss: He knew it wasn’t an idle threat. He knew we had nothing to lose at that moment, and I had every intention to lead the fire bombing myself. As you know, since childhood I have always had a fondness for fire. And beside, we got the bone here in Detroit seeing as they shut Boblo Island down, it would only be fitting that we shut Disney World down.

Jelly Nuts: Tell me about this fondness for fire? I have never heard about that.

Alex Abbiss: Well really, I can’t talk too much about it without incriminating myself, so I will just say that when the 5th Jokers Card cake out with The Amazing Jeckel Brothers juggling the balls of fire, something about it set myself at ease.

Jelly Nuts: So if you weren’t working in the Record Business, what business would you want to work in?

Alex Abbiss: Demolitions? since my childhood I have always been extremely fond of explosives and firearms. For some reason, I have a terrible destructive streak, and once in a while, I develop an overwhelming urge to destroy.

Jelly Nuts: Can you talk about anything you have destroyed?

Alex Abbiss: I will just say, in my youth, I was arrested 3 times for felony vandalism and malicious destruction of property. I have since given up my destructive ways, but I am still an avid collector of firearms. The jewel of my firearm collection is a pineapple grenade.

Jelly Nuts: I have heard rumors from other ninjas here at Psychopathic that you were under surveillance by the FBI for a period of time. Is that true?

Alex Abbiss: I don’t really have any hard evidence, but without question, Washington would prefer to take us out. I feel everything we represent is very against their current system, and they know we are a threat to them.

Jelly Nuts: Whats your favorite flavor of Faygo?

Alex Abbiss: Redpop.

Jelly Nuts: I think Red pop is whack! Why do you like that shit?

Alex Abbiss: Because its red, and its pop, and they thought of the fact that it was red, and they thought of the fact that it was pop, and it was fresh then, and it was fresh now. It is so simple, its genius!

Jelly Nuts: Can you tell me a little bit about Woodstock?

Alex Abbiss: Yea, we got a lot of emails from Juggalos saying “hey, is ICP gonna be at Woodstock?”. Next thing you know, the shows promoter put his ass out on a limb inviting ICP to Woodstock. We received phone calls from fans here at the office, calling about shit like new releases, tour information, where some of their merchandise is at, etc. We would ask them how they felt about the Posse doing Woodstock. I would say 75% of the fans said we think y’all should go. So we did. We rocked that shit, it was fun, a lot of Juggalos appreciated it, and hopefully there is a lot less whack people in the world right now cause hopefully we made some new Juggalos.

Jelly Nuts: So do you get lots of skins being the manager of ICP?

Alex Abbiss: Everyone wants some, and I get mine?

Jelly Nuts: So how the fuck can I get some skins? I am trapped here in the Psychopathic Records office 16 hours a day working for less than minimum wage. How the fuck can I school it?

Alex Abbiss: Look, its simple. Here is the most sound advice you are ever gonna get. Avoid the good girls. They are too much trouble. And go for the stank hoes, because they are down for any mother fucker with weed and a bank roll.

Jelly Nuts: Whenever I read email, mothafuckers are always talking about sending in their demo tape? what do you have to say to all the up and coming Psychopathics?

Alex Abbiss: If you got skills, bring it. We can do business. There is no doubt I can make you a star!

Jelly Nuts: So where do you see ICP heading in the next Millennium?

Alex Abbiss: I see the clowns going bigger in the comic industry, going bigger in the toy industry? I see the clowns fending off countless law suits and countless amounts of hate groups trying to do them in.

Jelly Nuts: Is there anything you want to say before you jet?

Alex Abbiss: I just want to say that someone has to do this job. And if it is gonna be anybody, managing the clowns, then it might as well be me. Cause I have always been the type of mothafucker that will take a beating, and still be able to pull myself off the ground ready to fight. Its been a long, troublesome time trying to hold down the fort and keep everything from falling apart. But yet I manage to get the job done. And that?s how it is. And that?s how it was. And that?s how it always will be! And that?s on the real here, son.

Jelly Nuts: Thanks for taking out the time in your crazy busy day. Peace.

Alex Abbiss: Peace out, super-ninja. See you at the crossroads. And I am out!