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ABK did not show up at the March because his latest royalty cheque from Psychopathic BOUNCED!!
September 19, 2017
4:34 pm
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ABK was also banned by PSY from performing at the recent 5$ show/video shoot because he showed up an hour late.

All this knowledge was dropped last night by ABK during an interview on Replicon radio-

http://repliconradio.com/

ABK's interview starts around the 2 hour 25 minute mark of the latest episode.

 

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September 19, 2017
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Fails to mention that ABK said they directly wired him the money the next day...

September 19, 2017
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After they fucked up his credit, cost him the bounce fee, and forced him to go to the bank in person, he then found they had wired him the money the next day(basically the way a poorly run, broke-ass businesses operates. Not even enough in the chequing account to cover Killa's meager payouts.)

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September 19, 2017
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Also worth noting - ABK said Psychopathic won't put out Shapeshifter because Young Wicked did most of the beats.

ABK will not let them change the beats because he likes how the songs sound with YW's production.

He also mentioned he wants to do more shows with Blaze/MNE.

 

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September 19, 2017
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So PSY doesn't have millions in the bank just chillin and is run by unprofessional people? HOLY SHIT WE GOT A NEWS FLASH HERE!!!

I literally picture you watching those chick guy videos jerking off talking to the screen "aw gawd yes, ugh, tell me more about how Joe Bruce sucks and PSY is a failing company, oh yes!" That's like your porn lol

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September 19, 2017
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I had a feeling this thread would trigger the nutriders.....

 

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September 19, 2017
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EDIT:

I literally picture you watching those chuck* guy videos jerking off talking to the screen "aw gawd yes, ugh, tell me more about how Joe Bruce sucks and PSY is a failing company, oh yes!" That's like your porn lol  

fuckin spellcheck* lol

September 19, 2017
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I had a feeling this thread would trigger the Joe Bruce nutriders.....

 

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September 19, 2017
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I can buy the bounced check part but I think Shape Shifter falls on ABK. He could have pushed to put that out anytime between 2012-2016 before Otis even left.

September 19, 2017
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Miklo Velka said
Also worth noting - ABK said Psychopathic won't put out Shapeshifter because Young Wicked did most of the beats.

ABK will not let them change the beats because he likes how the songs sound with YW's production.

He also mentioned he wants to do more shows with Blaze/MNE.

 

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So he's saying that they refuse to sell music that has anything to do with Young Wicked.  Ok.yw-1.PNGImage Enlarger

September 19, 2017
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Lol i wouldn't trust ordering Slaughter anymore off PSY Merch. They probably rub their nuts on it or something before packing it.

September 19, 2017
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Psychopathic can't afford to destroy old stock.

ABK was talking about them refusing to put out something NEW with Young Wicked's fingerprints on it.

Carnivalkilla44 said
I can buy the bounced check part but I think Shape Shifter falls on ABK. He could have pushed to put that out anytime between 2012-2016 before Otis even left.  

He was re-doing all the original beats with Otis during that time.

Album was slow going, now it's ready to go.

September 19, 2017
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Another PSY artist talking bad about PSY while still on the label (weather he’s in the right or not)

Love ABK but he’ll be gone soon... Either on his own and making albums with MNE artist or he’ll just go to MNE!

Was cool having ABK on the label but its another artist gone... 

Still love Twiztid and MNE as well, but theyre just the old PSY...

Looking forward to hearing some new ICP and PSY... Couldn’t make the march cus I’m from England but from what I seen it was amazing... Proud of PSY :) 

September 19, 2017
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Miklo Velka said
I had a feeling this thread would trigger the nutriders.....

 

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who is nutriding exactly?

did he say WHY the check bounced? im pretty sure he said he didnt know...could Psy be broke? its possible but nobody knows for sure except you know..the people that work there and people like you and Cuck Reeves trying to make this a major headline when you have no idea what the truth is...nobody does except the people involved...

and yeah..pretty sure it was common knowledge by now they didnt let him perform for being late due to his van breaking down...shitty and makes Psy look petty? sure..but again nobody knows the details as facts other than..he was late and was told he couldnt perform..could there be more to why? sure..could it be them being petty assholes? sure..do you know? 100% doubtful...

as far as Shapeshifter...i thought he said at his seminar this year that he could either release it as is on Native World, or take another year working on new beats...

i dont see an issue with him doing more stuff with Blaze/MNE...im sure if there was an issue, than Psy wouldnt have let him do the Drive By shows, which many people thought they were gonna fire him then for doing it...or that he said hes gonna do another Drive By album...i believe he even stated he still wants to stay at Psy...

so..im confused as to the issues?

September 19, 2017
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Miklo Velka said
Psychopathic can't afford to destroy old stock.

ABK was talking about them refusing to put out something NEW with Young Wicked's fingerprints on it.

He was re-doing all the original beats with Otis during that time.

Album was slow going, now it's ready to go.  

F.T.F.O.M.F. almost certainly had Young Wicked's fingerprints all over it.  No way they scrapped all of his beats and flipped that whole album in 5 months and still had it sounding that polished.

September 19, 2017
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said

F.T.F.O.M.F. almost certainly had Young Wicked's fingerprints all over it.  No way they scrapped all of his beats and flipped that whole album in 5 months and still had it sounding that polished.  

Mono said Young Wicked made the beat on Tell These Bitches.
But you know, you've got to take the things he says with a grain of salt.

I'm glad killa didn't dodge any questions, he laid all that shit out on the table.

September 19, 2017
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No that actually doesn't surprise me at all. Makes sense. If I was ICP I'd still put out all my shit made with young wicked beats and just lie and not give him any credit for it, ya know, just to be asshole, which they're good at, so I doubt they needed the idea from me...

September 19, 2017
7:23 pm
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cdub6238 said
did he say WHY the check bounced?

The check written to ABK bounced because there wasn't enough money left in Psychopathic's bank account to cover it.

cdub6238 said

and yeah..pretty sure it was common knowledge by now they didnt let him perform for being late due to his van breaking down...shitty and makes Psy look petty? sure..but again nobody knows the details as facts other than..he was late and was told he couldnt perform..could there be more to why? sure..could it be them being petty assholes? sure..do you know? 100% doubtful...

Getting mad at a Native Indian for being late is like getting mad at Salmon for swimming in the ocean, like getting mad at a Bear for shitting in the woods.

I can't be the only one on this planet who has experienced the phenomena known as "Indian Time".

 

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September 19, 2017
8:27 pm
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Most businesses don't just have one single bank account where they store all profits. They often have multiple accounts and money is funneled into those different accounts to fund the different avenues their business takes. A check bouncing doesn't necessarily mean PSY is broke nor does it mean they were trying to shit on ABK. It could just be a simple mistake either on PSY or the bank's part.

As far as Shapeshifter, I doubt the YW beef is the cause. We've been waiting on this album for YEARS. The YW beef is, what, 10 months old?

I love Killa but he hasn't seemed to want to be a team player at PSY for a while now. Whether that's their fault or his, I don't know, but if not twisting every piece of news scrap that drops into something to demonize PSY with makes me a nutrider, fuck it. Guess I'll saddle up.

September 19, 2017
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How many people actually listened to the whole thing?  I personally just sat and listened to the entire 2 or so hours. Killa was laughing the entire time and said that he has nothing but love for psychopathic. And MNE.  He thinks the drama is stupid.  They made mistakes, but it wasn't malicious.  The Psypher was supposed to be recorded in front of the live crowd.  Regardless of the reason, it wasn't possible for him to do that.  Shit happens.  And he still showed up at the show once he knew for sure he wouldn't be performing just to show his support for the label and fans.

And although it is against the spirit of this thread, some positive stuff that he said:

He said that he doesn't have a lot of money in savings because he puts a lot into Native World (he built a recording studio recently), had to get his van towed 200 miles, and had an issue with the check so he wasn't able to swing the trip to D.C.

If Psy was completely broke, they wouldn't be able to wire him money less than a day after they realized the check bounced.

He's going to try to run Native World as a legitimate label with tours and promotion.  He has some pretty good artists on there. (just please not in thin jewel cases with photocopies. I can live with that if I have to, but still)

He also said that Shapeshifter is 90% done, another album from before medicine bag is 90% done, Psy doesn't own the rights to either of those so he is free to release them on Native World, he is working on a new Drive-by album with Blaze, and he's trying to contact Bonez because he wants to release the Hav Nots album which is done aside from Bonez's verses.  Perfectly happy not being a millionaire.  He just wants to make music.  Bonez got the shortest end of the stick from the whole beef because of how it was laid out despite not doing anything wrong and keeping his mouth shut.

He even addressed why he didn't release a statement on his facebook.  He doesn't run the facebook page.  It's just for posting where he's going to be performing and he doesn't update it.

And he gave his 2 cents on the Young Wicked situation.  Which was that ICP shouldn't have even mentioned it.

Whoop Whoop Bonesaw Wizardstick :

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