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August 18, 2025
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Well… what do we think of this album?

August 19, 2025
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Old Mr Dangerous said
Well… what do we think of this album?  

Worse than Yum Yum. And holy fuck that shouldn’t be possible.

Side note: Gathering was fresh though, but I won’t be surprised if it’s not at Legend Valley next year. 

August 23, 2025
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Worse than Yum Yum. And holy fuck that shouldn’t be possible.

Side note: Gathering was fresh though, but I won’t be surprised if it’s not at Legend Valley next year.   

I haven’t listened to it much, but the little I’ve heard has been pretty bland. Softy Pillow Man stood out the most, but the lyrics and concept seemed pretty dumb. I’ll give it all a real listen soon.

 

Was the GOTJ extra rowdy this year or sumpin?

August 23, 2025
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Old Mr Dangerous said

 

Was the GOTJ extra rowdy this year or sumpin?  

More rowdy than normal, at times, and yet chiller than normal also. A lot more people this year.  Car pass parking was strictly controlled when the gates first opened. We were told where we were camping, versus having somewhat of a choice. The owner hired private security this year and is running every festival like Lost Lands or Excision. (Which honestly I would be doing the same if I was the owner.

As has been documented at length, many outsiders (influencers) on hand for their own gain.

I saw nitrous tank confiscation, a gun arrest (warranted), and multiple fights (that were recorded). Also, a blown up porto potty (which hasn’t happened in a few years).

Security would swarm an area as soon as a firework went off.

A lot more people = a lot more trash left behind.

And this has happened before, but a ninja sadly passed away on the last day. RIP homie.

 

The above are all things I visually witnessed (unfortunately including the loss of life). My crew and I still had a blast, stayed safe, and I personally don’t have any real complaints. But I can see that GOTJ has run it’s course at Legend Valley.

I could very well be wrong, as I’m sure a lot of $$$ was brought in to Thornville this year. And all the issues I listed above are typical of any big festival. Something just felt “final” about this year to me. And my intuition is typically pretty good for whatever reason.

Time will tell…

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August 26, 2025
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More rowdy than normal, at times, and yet chiller than normal also. A lot more people this year.  Car pass parking was strictly controlled when the gates first opened. We were told where we were camping, versus having somewhat of a choice. The owner hired private security this year and is running every festival like Lost Lands or Excision. (Which honestly I would be doing the same if I was the owner.

As has been documented at length, many outsiders (influencers) on hand for their own gain.

I saw nitrous tank confiscation, a gun arrest (warranted), and multiple fights (that were recorded). Also, a blown up porto potty (which hasn’t happened in a few years).

Security would swarm an area as soon as a firework went off.

A lot more people = a lot more trash left behind.

And this has happened before, but a ninja sadly passed away on the last day. RIP homie.

 

The above are all things I visually witnessed (unfortunately including the loss of life). My crew and I still had a blast, stayed safe, and I personally don’t have any real complaints. But I can see that GOTJ has run it’s course at Legend Valley.

I could very well be wrong, as I’m sure a lot of $$$ was brought in to Thornville this year. And all the issues I listed above are typical of any big festival. Something just felt “final” about this year to me. And my intuition is typically pretty good for whatever reason.

Time will tell…  

Thanks for the summary! 

Sounds a bit shitty, but also I know every person experiences their own world at festivals.

Was the death an O.D.?

Somehow the influencers part upsets me as well. It was inevitable during these modern streaming times that outsiders would be attracted to the beauty of the GOTJ, I just don’t want to believe it. I want to pretend they don’t exist.

 

On a plus side, I’ve been living in Vermont for four years, and this Juggalo regular customer at the dispensary I’ve been at, he went foe his first time this year. He had a fucking blast. I’m happy for him.

August 26, 2025
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Thanks for the summary! FLH deleted my longer response and I don’t feel like repeating it.

So my friend who is a regular customer at the dispensary I’ve been working at in Vermont, this was his very first GOTJ. He had a blast.

 

Was the death an overdose?

August 28, 2025
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Old Mr Dangerous said
 

Was the death an overdose?  

Heart attack. I don’t know the cause/what led to it. Happened on past day, right as main stage was getting underway.

September 8, 2025
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Best card of the 2nd deck. 

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September 16, 2025
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So… I’ve finally gotten to listen to The Naught, in it’s entirety. The way it was supposed to be listened to (in my truck, on a 1.5 hour trip up and 1.5 trip down). And let me tell you…

 

This album is way, way, WAY better than I expected!

After the fuzzy phone and low volume YouTube listens here and there, I thought this was fixing to be the worst 2nd Deck disc yet.

Nope. It is great! 

 

I implore you all to bump this in your ride, if you have one. 

 

Anyways, there isn’t a skippable track after two full listens. The only one that wasn’t super dope to me was “Here We Go”. I’ll have to play that again.

 

To me, Violent J sounds more enthusiastic and controlled than he has in years. He seems like he’s having fun. His flows are reminiscent of his weed-smoking, jogging era… sort of like Hell’s Pit era. The only drawback is that his older man’s voice with the dental work is noticeable, but far less than recent outputs. He doesn’t sound so mush-mouthed. And when he does, he doesn’t sound so geriatric. 

We get a lot more Shaggy 2 Dope than usual, and in this day and age, thats a good thing. The man has become a way more concise rapper with age. 

The beats hit and sound so good in a vehicle. The bass, the samples. Some would say they’re playing to nostalgia with the samples, but most of those lyrics are deep cuts that only Juggalos know. 

Yum Yum Bedlam, an album I was super hyped for, ended up not keeping my interest much. Little replay value.

 

I don’t know how to rate these albums of the 2nd deck, for now I’m feeling like they’re all great except most of Yum Yum Bedlam and The Missing Links (although I treasure some songs off of those, they’re just inconsistent and bogged down by a weird tone, bland Otis beats, and the whole Christian feel).

 

Give this album a chance. I love it.

September 16, 2025
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Here are the production credits. I only knew that MEC made “Softy Pillow Man” until now. Strangely enough, my least favorite tracks were all mostly produced by Shaggy The Airhead.

 

This revelation furthers my conviction that Kuma and MEC are the best overall producers for ICP. I also enjoy Mike P, but his input was minimal here.

 

I had to include where I first read that old rhyme from those Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark books. It’s what closes out the album and it put a smile on my face.

 

A very, very strong album. If i were to rate it in the old way, I’d say ☆☆☆☆ out of ☆☆☆☆☆.

 

Honestly I’m amazed these 50 year old fellas can still kick this much ass. 

 

The right production is important, that is certain. 

September 17, 2025
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brother

 

wat da fuq u saying?

 

You 12?

 

Scary Stories to tell in the Dark?

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September 17, 2025
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brother

 

wat da fuq u saying?

 

You 12?

 

Scary Stories to tell in the Dark?  

Only real ninjas read Scary Stories books. Look I found an old photo of you in there.

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When we gonna have a real Molson bitchboy? I’m just a drive away now.

September 26, 2025
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I liked The Naught, one of the best of the 2nd deck. 

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September 26, 2025
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Only real ninjas read Scary Stories books. Look I found an old photo of you in there.

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When we gonna have a real Molson bitchboy? I’m just a drive away now.  

you ever find yourself in the once greatest city in the world Montreal,Quebec,Canada

poutine and Molsons on me.

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October 6, 2025
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I thought the naught was the best of the second deck for sure. Pop Out is one of my faves. I wish they would have spent a few more months on it. J snapped on only wicked shit. I was def surprised. At first I hated it, but it def grew on me.

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February 19, 2026
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My favorite Joker’s Card of the second deck.

 

Top 5:

1. I’m Still Breathin’

2. Here We Go

3. Throw Em Up

4. The Naught

5. Pop Out

February 24, 2026
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It’s a great album.

February 27, 2026
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It’s a great album.  

Hey, look, everybody (the maybe 4 people that still come here)

The Lucid Fairy is back. How far are you into your transition? 

You get your nugz chopped off??

Are you still a Juggalo or are you a Juggalette now?

You know I’m just a shittalker, and I’m talking shit

Hope you are doing well and still have your nugz.

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February 28, 2026
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Hey, look, everybody (the maybe 4 people that still come here)

The Lucid Fairy is back. How far are you into your transition? 

You get your nugz chopped off??

Are you still a Juggalo or are you a Juggalette now?

You know I’m just a shittalker, and I’m talking shit

Hope you are doing well and still have your nugz.  

They/them do have their nuts, and they taste supoib..

 

But yes, I haven’t played the album since the summer, I’ve just been busy as fuck.

But I have finally received my “Cabin in the Sky” De La Soul album. And it’s fantastic. I implore you all to listen to it.

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VMD is 1/4th of the people who still visit this forum.

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