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Why the left is asleep in Islam and sharia law
February 11, 2020
6:21 pm
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Pigg said

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Never realized there were so many alt-right members & threads on Faygoluvers.  

Being pro woman's rights, anti gay bashing/murdering, and pro atheist rights (none of which Islam contains) makes one alt-right/nazi/Jew hater/holocaust denier/dreamer of black repatriation to Africa out of America. Sure...whatever you say...

If this was your only motivation you would also be making threads posting entire essays about white supremacists, Project Blitz (the attempt by conservative Christians to slowly erode the separation of church and state), the fact that several members of the Trump administration have been funneling funds to faith-based organizations as opposed to more effective secular ones, the fact that the president of the Human Rights Campaign has called trump the "worst president on LGBT issues ever" or several other issues pertaining to woman's rights, gay rights, and atheist rights.

 

Pigg thinks he's brilliant, but as seen here, he's the complete opposite. And he proves it once again. Allow me to dissect his post.

Pigg is free anytime to start a topic on the Christian right becoming powerful in the United States. And once he shows proof that atheism is being made to be illegal or atheists are being refused job hirings in the government sector, or an atheist candidate's votes are being tampered with (I don't know, Pigg refuses to explain specifically what he is talking about and he gives no in depth analysis - I hope someday soon he will),I will join him in his condemnation of the attempt to erode the barrier between religion and government. My only goal is to point out how HYPOCRITICAL LIBERALS refuse to speak up about Muslims attempting to do that only because they are brown and still a statistical minority. Apparently the liberal reaction to theocracy depends on the race and/or religion of who is trying to create a theocracy. That's not being consistent. But it's obvious that regressive liberals are moral hypocrites.

Liberals preach about the rights for gays and atheists but when Muslims attack those rights, liberals are very quick to shut the fuck up for some reason. THAT is why I talk about Islamic misogyny and hatred of atheists and gays. Because liberals are moral cowards afraid of being called racist than to uphold their own principles ALL ACROSS THE BOARD REGARDLESS OF SKIN OR CREED!

February 11, 2020
6:23 pm
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Pigg said Also, you have crafted YET ANOTHER strawman. They said there are alt-right threads on Faygoluvers, you somehow managed to take that as an accusation of Holocaust denial or support of repatriation.

All I said was I never realized that there were so many alt-right members and alt-right threads on Faygoluvers. To a greater extent even in the juggalo world. Just an observation. I have no clue what that Vinyllover is even on about.

February 11, 2020
6:25 pm
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Also, you have crafted YET ANOTHER strawman. They said there are alt-right threads on Faygoluvers, you somehow managed to take that as an accusation of Holocaust denial or support of repatriation.

 

Pigg now wants to feign ignorance about holocaust deniers and pro black-repatriation existing in underground American fascist circles. He and other regressive liberals keep crying, "Strawman," when in fact what I am doing is steel-manning them. Difference. When you take an accusation that someone is alt-right, that means a genuine fascist. Pursure THIS to it's logical end all the way, AND YES, you end up with holocaust deniers and pro black-repatriation. Why? Because THEY EXIST! To deny THIS is to be dishonest.

I'm not a fascist, I'm not alt-right and I'm not conservative. I consider myself a centrist. I'm a liberal like Bill Maher, Sam Harris, Atheism-Is-Unstoppable and a host of other liberals that are SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF PATHETIC WEAKLINGS that won't call out Islamic misogyny and Islamic homophobia when it's clearly pointed out to them. So since I'm NOT on the right, and since I'm very prone to liberal views about women, gays and atheists, and many other things, Pigg has no point.

Pigg and other regressive, paranoid liberals I can spot from a mile away. They assume that when someone talks about Muslims they automatically must be a racist, bigot, or right winger bordering on white supremacy, holocaust denial, etc. OH IT COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE BECAUSE THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO DISLIKE ISLAM AND BE WARY OF IT BECAUSE THEY HATE ALL THEOCRACIES AND HAVE ENOUGH SENSE OF HISTORY TO REMEMBER THAT EUROPEANS FLED TO AMERICA TO GET AWAY FROM THEOCRATIC TYRANNY AND THAT LIBERAL TOLERANCE WAS A GOOD IDEA AND THAT THEOCRACIES WERE TO BE BANNED AS WRITTEN IN THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION. IT COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE THAT A LIBERAL WHO OPPOSES ISLAM ALSO HATES WHITE THEOCRATS AND WHITE MISOGYNISTS AND WHITE HOMOPHOBES. You see, it's regressive liberals who make false accusations without evidence, that always get rightfully labeled as "virtue signaling." Because they truly have nothing else! LOL.

There is an acid test to flesh out genuine liberals like me. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ACTUALLY USE IT instead of making baseless assumptions like a wacko conspiracy theorist who wears tinfoil hats in his mom's basement. JUST ASK US! ASK US! Ask us what is  our views are on gay rights, atheist rights, women's rights, etc. AND WE'LL TELL YOU! The solution to Islamic misogyny, is NOT to replace it with Christian misogyny and a Christian theocracy. That is what a lot of men's rights activists in the west and European authoritarians will tell you. That is NOT the solution. The SOLUTION is to push back ALL MARRIAGES OF RELIGION AND GOVERNMENT. I know this. So I am confused as to why other liberals like Pigg and KLF don't know that theocracies aren't good.

I can hear it now:"We do Vinyllover. What are you talking about?"

Good. Then stop accusing me of being an alt-right, closeted bigot instead of what I am. An ACTUAL LIBERAL who is going to tell you that the CURE to Islamic theocracy and misogyny is NOT to replace it with Christian theocracy and misogyny like some crazy assholes. The CURE is to GET BACK to a NON-RELIGIOUS STATE and to PROTECT WOMEN'S RIGHTS. There are too many white misogynists and white Christian assholes TO HAVE TO BE FUCKING DEALING WITH ISLAMIC SHARIA ON TOP OF IT!

I should think white liberals would be more outraged that state governments in America are wasting tax dollars on foreign Muslims to come to America and set up sharia zones and halal shops all in free, paid for housing like here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNCv9TIlrgg

Gee, shouldn't black black descendants of slaves get some of that money? Weren't they first in line in America? A lot of black conservatives are fucking PISSED that more white liberals DON'T HAVE THEIR BACK AND ARE CUCKING TO ISLAM, A RELIGION THAT ENSLAVED BLACK PEOPLE!

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/politics/exposing-another-racist-pale-face-who-owned-african-slaves/

Liberals will totally walk over a black family living in the ghetto needing more help, just to cuck to Islam and demand that more and more come in and get more money first even though they budged in line. That's because regressive liberals don't know history and don't know economics. Just virtue signaling.

February 11, 2020
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Pigg said Also, you have crafted YET ANOTHER strawman. They said there are alt-right threads on Faygoluvers, you somehow managed to take that as an accusation of Holocaust denial or support of repatriation.

All I said was I never realized that there were so many alt-right members and alt-right threads on Faygoluvers. To a greater extent even in the juggalo world. Just an observation. I have no clue what that Vinyllover is even on about.  

Yep. Just keep repeating that I'm alt-right. If you do it enough times, it may even come true.

That's probably way more productive and conducive to learning something new than watching the first six videos I posted starting on page 1, and then reading every single post in this topic - page 1 and 2.

February 11, 2020
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And yet, for some reason the only people you consistently side with here are far-right...

 

I am at work right now, so just made a quick post. When I get home I'll dive a little in-depth.

 

Here's a starting point from Americans United for Separation of Church and State:

PROJECT BLITZ: A SECRET POLITICAL MOVEMENT SWEEPING THROUGH THE STATES.

Along with the harmful federal policies of the Trump administration, Project Blitz is part of a full-frontal assault by Christian nationalists to force a narrow set of religious beliefs into our shared secular laws.

The fight to protect religious freedom in the states can’t be ignored. Every year Project Blitz escalates to impose a narrow set of religious beliefs onto the rest of us through increasingly ambitious and discriminatory state laws. Bill after bill, they misuse religious freedom to discriminate. 

AU has been on the front lines fighting back against this attack for years and will continue to ensure religious freedom is used as a shield to protect, not a sword that causes harm.

I've posted about this before.

 

Here's some more information from blitzwatch.org:

Since the Supreme Court decided Obergefell in 2015, those who oppose marriage equality have introduced and passed child welfare “license to discriminate” laws in an increasing number of states. Between 2017-2018, six states passed these laws.

Currently, there are 10 states with laws allowing discrimination by child welfare agencies: Alabama (2017), Kansas (2018), Michigan (2015), Mississippi (2016), North Dakota (2003), Oklahoma (2018), South Carolina (2018), South Dakota (2017), Texas (2017), and Virginia (2012).

The scope of the laws varies—in their narrowest form, they allow agencies to turn away qualified foster and adoptive parents; at worst, they allow agencies to discriminate against potential parents and LGBTQ youth in foster care, including engaging in proselytizing and “conversion therapy,” a harmful and discredited practice.

These policies are already a reality in much of the country and are much more dangerous to America than the perceived threat of Sharia.

 

I am not trying to say that homophobia, misogyny, and religious law don't exist in Islam or in Muslim majority countries, but rather I'm trying to say that there are bigger fish to fry in the United States.

It may be a different case in Canada.

February 11, 2020
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krunkazphuk said
I'm way healthier today than when I watched u cry IRL, commiefornia. When I recently bumped a thread from a few years ago, there u were again crying over yet another dead friend. Has it occurred to u that u might just be a shit friend? Deadpool gets it:

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Lol this what u call scrambling. U had tougher skin than that. Wait no u never really developed it, just this fake tough image... 

funny thing is u can actually heal and not act like a cliche.

Oh you mean my friend who just died dad, who got murdered. Yeah this is who u are my guy. 

I stay crying at the gathering lol. 

Man I would say all the weird shit u told me at the gathering about u and ur husband in that apartment that reaaaallllllyyyy relates to this alllll this shit and would make u look like a joke. Even more than posting things like this. 

But hey I’m not cuz I’m that nigga :)

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February 11, 2020
7:05 pm
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Pigg said
And yet, for some reason the only people you consistently side with here are far-right...

 

Here we go again with that smear. Who is alt-right? How "right" are they and how can you tell? And what are they, (and I apparently) saying that makes us ultra conservative or even modern day fascist (a fascist actually hates Republics, democracies and free speech and tolerance of atheism)? Careful now. Because if you abuse and misuse these words, I will expose your ignorance. Use them wisely...

 

I am not trying to say that homophobia, misogyny, and religious law don’t exist in Islam or in Muslim majority countries

Good. Then you and others like KLF need to get off my back. And admit that I'm correct that since western European heritage has a STRONGER TRADITION of deism, atheism, republics, anti-theocracies, granting women and homosexuals their rights and has done it AT A FASTER PACE THAN THE MUSLIM WORLD, that it's in the west's best interests to keep sharia out and NEVER let Muslims become a majority in the west for PRACTICAL PURPOSES. It will save tax money and we can get back to making things better for women, gays and atheists. Because whitey at large still has a problem treating these people with respect and dignity.

, but rather I’m trying to say that there are bigger fish to fry in the United States.

You do realize that by saying this, you and other liberals that I tar as "regressive" are just making my argument about closing the borders from Islam for me? YOU CAN'T BE PROGRESSIVE, BUT THEN CHAMPION THE IMPORT OF PEOPLE WITH REGRESSIVE IDEAS! I'm anti Islam because I'm pro atheist, pro woman AND also pro black. I know, the last one may shock you, but again, that part of history ISN'T TALKED ABOUT!
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/politics/exposing-another-racist-pale-face-who-owned-african-slaves/
Muhammad (piss be upon him), was a pedophile and a racist. End of story!!!

Pigg, do you know about the #walkaway movement? It's about former Democrats going to the Republican side. I.E. How the common man and woman are changing how they vote in elections. See why many of them (including gay people) are doing it. Because the left is soft on a religion that is hard on atheists, women and gays. The left is causing an exodus of their own people with the tired, worn out virtue signaling to Islam. It's getting gay people murdered and the left DOESN'T CARE! They'll cuck to Islam faster than they will protect women and homosexuals.

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/islam-is-soooo-tolerant-of-gay-people-right/

February 11, 2020
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Psryal and Krunk, and to some extent, Smack.

Don't be disingenuous and claim that you haven't seen the fascism in their posts.

February 11, 2020
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White Evangelicals hold less favorable views of homosexuals than Muslims in the US, yet they are running our government.

Hence all of the Project Blitz things that are happening.

I support accepting refugees into the United States.

I feel  there should be an orientation similar to what you have in Canada.

February 11, 2020
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Pigg said
Psryal and Krunk, and to some extent, Smack.

Smack I have already taken to task on an issue or two. Don't be disingenuous and claim YOU haven't seen that.

What about Psyral and Krunk says they are fascists and that they support a fascist structure of government? Links and quotes please.

February 11, 2020
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I support accepting refugees into the United States.

So you support uprooting whites and blacks and digging into their pockets via tax coffers to pay for sharia zones?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNCv9TIlrgg

So you support the immigration of people who subscribe to a belief system that demands gays be executed and girls have their clits chopped?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2019/04/12/female-genital-mutilation-law/3445289002/

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/20/us/female-genital-mutilation-case-charges-dropped/index.html

If I'm to take you seriously as a sane person, that you have to recognize that bigots exist and you can't just let them in. You need a vetting process and you need SERIOUS BACKGROUND CHECKS! Just because you're mad at American Christians, doesn't mean that you can put Egyptian Christians in the same boat with Syrian Muslims for example. Not all immigrants are the same. Muslims are more prone to circumcising girls and sharia law than Christians. You need to stop with false equations between two things that aren't similar in the slightest.

 

Listen, I already took your stupid "alt-right" playbook series to task by exposing their lies and bad economics used as justifications for just letting anyone come into any country.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/politics/the-alt-right-playbook/page-3/#p246437

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/politics/the-alt-right-playbook/page-3/#p246439

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/politics/the-alt-right-playbook/page-3/#p246440

There's no need to beat this dead horse again.

February 11, 2020
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vinyllover said

Pigg said
Psryal and Krunk, and to some extent, Smack.

What about Psyral and Krunk says they are fascists and that they support a fascist structure of government? Links and quotes please.  

Oh you mean :

Psyral Infection said

She was not acquitted because she was never charged. The motion was tabled. It has not gone to trial ... yet. Once we have super majority in both house and senate, then we can do anything we want and the democrats can do nothing about it. Endless trials with automatic convictions! Anyone who opposes will be tried for treason and convicted via rubber stamp. With us making the rules, trials will last about 1 minute each. Gitmo for all of them.  

Now move the goal post and claim you meant something different

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

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I support more refugees too but I want a large mixture of them not just muslims

what makes Canada so awsome is there is a little bit of everything here, when you add too much of one thing it fucks everything up

and Justin Trudeau loves muslims too much

Omar Kahdr is a terrorist who left Canada to join Isis killed an American medic built bombs that killed more, got cought and went to guantanamo bay and then Justin gave him 10.4 million dollars because of it, the American medic and his family got shit but Omar Kahdr got 10.4 million dollars and now gives speeches at Canadian Universities as a hero.

fuck that

let Canada take in more Greeks who are in financial ruin, more white Africans who are getting killed, how bout some Australians who's land is burning at record rate no all Justin want's is fucking muslims 

1 million Somali muslims landing here this year all footed by Canadian tax payers

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February 11, 2020
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Noah Fence said

vinyllover said

Pigg said
Psryal and Krunk, and to some extent, Smack.

What about Psyral and Krunk says they are fascists and that they support a fascist structure of government? Links and quotes please.  

Oh you mean :

Psyral Infection said

She was not acquitted because she was never charged. The motion was tabled. It has not gone to trial ... yet. Once we have super majority in both house and senate, then we can do anything we want and the democrats can do nothing about it. Endless trials with automatic convictions! Anyone who opposes will be tried for treason and convicted via rubber stamp. With us making the rules, trials will last about 1 minute each. Gitmo for all of them.  

Now move the goal post and claim you meant something different  

Well, the pronoun "she" is UNDEFINED. As for this rant apparently coming from some right wing leaning Republican who probably misunderstands what "treason" is or what the separation of powers means and what the constitution really says, I really don't have a lot of detail. I require a link to this discussion so I can have an actual understanding of what is going on.

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Sonic the Hedgehog

in theaters this Friday

Whoop Whoop, the_patriot_smack :

Demented Smoka

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February 12, 2020
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vinyllover said

Noah Fence said

vinyllover said

Pigg said
Psryal and Krunk, and to some extent, Smack.

What about Psyral and Krunk says they are fascists and that they support a fascist structure of government? Links and quotes please.  

Oh you mean :

Psyral Infection said

She was not acquitted because she was never charged. The motion was tabled. It has not gone to trial ... yet. Once we have super majority in both house and senate, then we can do anything we want and the democrats can do nothing about it. Endless trials with automatic convictions! Anyone who opposes will be tried for treason and convicted via rubber stamp. With us making the rules, trials will last about 1 minute each. Gitmo for all of them.  

Now move the goal post and claim you meant something different  

Well, the pronoun "she" is UNDEFINED. As for this rant apparently coming from some right wing leaning Republican who probably misunderstands what "treason" is or what the separation of powers means and what the constitution really says, I really don't have a lot of detail. I require a link to this discussion so I can have an actual understanding of what is going on.  

It's literally the thread below this but here

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/politics/funny-because-its-true/page-28/

There's your link. 

As for what is happening, he's saying that he supports torturing political enemies.

And before you say he's joking, remember, psyral has said multiple times he takes everything literally and doesn't understand hyperbole, innuendo, or sarcasm.

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

February 12, 2020
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Tbh walk up to me at the gathering and speak on my dead see how it goes. Bring somebody. 

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Paper trail and all. Even if I some how can look passed u I promise u there’s gonna be a bitch on ur head with the quickness. Lol if I like it or not.

it is what it is 

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Noah Fence said

It's literally the thread below this but here

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/politics/funny-because-its-true/page-28/

There's your link. 

As for what is happening, he's saying that he supports torturing political enemies.

And before you say he's joking, remember, psyral has said multiple times he takes everything literally and doesn't understand hyperbole, innuendo, or sarcasm.  

I thought that thread was supposed to be a comedy thread. I have attempted comedy multiple times but no one seems to know when I am trying to be funny and when I am being serious. 

Oh well. At least it may have ruffled a few feathers. I was hoping for a laugh or at least a chuckle. 

If you look though my threads I try to *interpret* what people say literally. I have never claimed that *I* am always literal. In fact, there are many cases where I attempt (many times unsuccessfully) to use "hyperbole, innuendo, or sarcasm".

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Back on topic, @vinyllover here's a video from a few years ago that might hit the spot:

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