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What could Trump do to change your opinion on him?
March 17, 2017
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So, obviously there could be something huge like nuking the midwest, but let's start small. 

What is the smallest, simplest gesture he could make that would make you reconsider whether or not he is a decent person?

For me, I think if he read and discussed the book Parable of the Sower by Octavia E. Butler in a way that addressed the concerns she wrote about long before he was ever even a political figure, and how her future taps into the history of class oppression, race oppression, and religious oppression, and gender oppression. If he did that, and committed to trying his best to prevent that future from coming true, i would see what I could do to help him.

What about you guys? What would make you reconsider supporting or not supporting him? Starting with the smallest thing. 

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Noah Fence said 
... future taps into the history of class oppression, race oppression, and religious oppression, and gender oppression....

That's Cultural Marxism, Noah. Boo! If Trump began capitulating to the victim narrative or the skewed, unrealistic statistics that house of cards perpetuates, then I'd reconsider his sanity. Hopefully he continues cultivating strength.

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March 17, 2017
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Who is Trump? 

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March 17, 2017
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If cultural Marxism is being willing to look at the ways our behaviors affect others, so be it.

It's pretty sad (and telling) that the worst thing he can do is consider the consequences of not only his actions but the actions of an economic precedent which predates him by a few hundred years. 

Didn't expect any less from you though. Sadly, actually, i expected a little bit more.

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March 17, 2017
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Who is Trump? 

Some skinhead.

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

March 17, 2017
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Nothing. Trump has my support all the way. I see the group of people that hates him is mostly comprised of idiots that just repeat what CNN told them over and over and over repeating other peoples opinions like they are facts. Braindead ass people. I am so sick of people being at each others throats that I feel like I JUST WANNA KILL SOMEBODY! People nowadays are just ready and waiting to be offended about anything and everything.

Did you know that having a mother and a father is offensive to some? Or that there is now like 50 different 'gender identities' even though science has only identified 2? Hell, people find it offensive that I'm a white guy.... but thats NOT racism. lol 

I bet I offend somebody over me being offended by everyone acting offensive.

Trump took office in one of the most hateful tumultuous of times we have ever seen. It is no surprise that he has been hated on so much (plus, he is also a white guy just like me, so he is automatically labeled a damn dirty racist just like me).

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Seriously, it is a good question and honestly I don't really know the answer.

March 17, 2017
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Who is Trump?   

"Well Trump's just this guy, you know?"

This is actually a misquote from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy but it is fitting if you are NOT a Trump fan since Zaphod Beeblebrox fits several labels attributed to Trump by people who dislike him.

To paraphrase Wikipedia:
He was briefly the President of the Galaxy (a role that requires the incumbent to attract attention so no one wonders who's really in charge). He is the only man to have survived the Total Perspective Vortex, though it was established (in the books and first two radio series) that he survived only because he was in an Electronically Synthesised Universe created especially for him, thus making him the most important being in that universe and thus uniquely equipped to survive its version of the Vortex. His brain-care specialist, Gag Halfrunt, also said, "Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?" He used his position as President of the Galaxy to steal the Heart of Gold, a spaceship taking advantage of Infinite Improbability Drive, at its unveiling.

As a character, Zaphod is hedonistic and irresponsible, narcissistic almost to the point of solipsism, and often extremely insensitive to the feelings of those around him.

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MNEJVoorhees said
... I bet I offend somebody over me being offended by everyone acting offensive. ...

I am offended that you would think I would be offended over you being offended by everyone acting offensive.

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Noah Fence said
If cultural Marxism is being willing to look at the ways our behaviors affect others, so be it.

Who are you referring to when you say "our"?

March 17, 2017
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Noah Fence said

What is the smallest, simplest gesture he could make that would make you reconsider whether or not he is a decent person?

Decent person or decent president? Those are two hugely different things. 

I can't see him doing anything that would make me think he's a decent person. It would have to start with him apologizing for all the terrible things he's done to people over the years. An apology goes a long way. It would at least show his heart is in the right place.

Decent president? Eh, I don't think he's a bad president. Dude needs to lay the fuck off of social media but he hasn't say-started a war without U.N. approval or redefined what the word "citizen" means during wartime yet or anything- so he could be doing much worse. It's too early to tell if he's going to be a good or bad president. Probably won't be able to tell until around year 5 or 6. 

March 17, 2017
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Well, he could start with releasing his tax returns. Dude has a huge hole to dig himself out of in MY opinion. If he were to come out and say "you know folks, realistically coal and manufacturing jobs probably aren't going to come back, but that doesn't mean I am not going to help you get great jobs!" and then announced a re-education program for people from those backgrounds, I would be pleasantly surprised. 

 

He also seems like he might be a little more in support of Universal Health Care than the rest of his part. It would be hilarious to me if Trump shit all over Obama's ACA legacy by implementing universal health care. I would probably still dislike him as a person, but I would definitely respect him more as a leader. 

March 17, 2017
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MNEJVoorhees said
Nothing. Trump has my support all the way. I see the group of people that hates him is mostly comprised of idiots that just repeat what CNN told them over and over and over repeating other peoples opinions like they are facts. Braindead ass people. I am so sick of people being at each others throats that I feel like I JUST WANNA KILL SOMEBODY! People nowadays are just ready and waiting to be offended about anything and everything.

Did you know that having a mother and a father is offensive to some? Or that there is now like 50 different 'gender identities' even though science has only identified 2? Hell, people find it offensive that I'm a white guy.... but thats NOT racism. lol 

I bet I offend somebody over me being offended by everyone acting offensive.

Trump took office in one of the most hateful tumultuous of times we have ever seen. It is no surprise that he has been hated on so much (plus, he is also a white guy just like me, so he is automatically labeled a damn dirty racist just like me).  

So you pick the guy that cried and threw a tantrum about a rapper making a music video where he shoots him as your representative of the anti sensitivity movement? Are you fucking serious? Obama never went on a twitter rant crying about the dumb ass shit that people, including Trump himself, said. Straight up racist ass bigot shit was said about Obama. Tons of people threatened to kill him. Tons of artists have talked about killing every president. Trump is the only one to cry about it. And that's who you pick to represent your anti sensitivity movement? Brovo, you're a fucking idiot too.

Judging people for drinking kool aide because you think your flavor of kool aide is better ass bitch.

Picking the walking temper tantrum to fight against temper tantrums ass bitch.

Hypocritical, hyperbolic, recreational outrage loving ass bitch. 

 

As for the topic. He started by reversing TPP. Then fucked it up by starting that pipe line that will create tons of extremely temporary jobs using pipes that are foreign made. And then his abuse of government spending on himself that he and his retarded supporters hypocritically judged Obama for doing.

 

And most importantly, he's started smiling like the Grinch before he tried to steal Christmas.

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March 18, 2017
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March 18, 2017
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[insert John Witherspoon meme from "Friday" referencing the scene, "Every time I come in here...", eluding to "Every time I come in here..." and there's a "discussion" about race/gender/sexuality/government shit; the same three mafkas are "always in the refrigerator", talking shit to EACH OTHER....

*I like talkin' shit! *I like listening to *other people's opinions BESIDES the same three assholes that seem to enjoy putting on the spectacle of bullshit they always lay out for all of us to slather over...!

"The word of the day is J. O. B.!!!]

 

I'm currently drunk and H.A.F.... and this shit sounds like all kinds'a THIS:

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March 18, 2017
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Nothing short of electroshock therapy will change my mind.

Here is the obvious, and fuck everyone for doing your exhaustive internet and TV research, scrambling to redeem the man and his cabinet: you have been fooled.

You are wrong. There is no opinion on this. 

An old man came into the shop the other day. Said he had voted Trump. Said he made a big mistake. He was a self-proclaimed environmentalist, and said that the Trump administration are the worst thing to happen to our planet ever. Ever.

If this old white bastard can see the error of his ways, maybe yall should swallow that pride and admit that MAYBE these goons like Bannon, Sessions and Trump are not out for your best interests. 

It's right in front of you. It's obvious. Don't accuse me of bowing to CNN like someone was accused of earlier, as I haven't watched the news in years and usually stay away from Internet articles.

You are what is wrong with this country.

March 18, 2017
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Donald Trump is literally a fucking con man. His supporters have been conned. They don't want to ADMIT they have been conned because that makes them look stupid. So, instead of saying "I may have let my emotions affect my judgment and made a poor decision" they double down and try and justify the con. 

 

Trump said he would drain the swamp: 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-.....a-38168382

 

Trump said he would release his tax returns: 

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/amp/donald-trump-will-not-release-tax-returns-white-house-adviser-n710511

Trump said he wouldn't cut a single penny from Medicare: 

http://www.vox.com/2017/3/13/1.....icaid-cuts

(to be fair, he didn't write this bill, but he is still supporting it)

He has a huge background in getting other people to pay for his business ventures and then fucking them over: 

https://youtu.be/CTzBZuPx1lQ

I honestly don't understand how poor conservatives can identify with this man. He has never wanted for anything or had to struggle a day in his life. How can we even EXPECT him to understand our interests, let alone to have them at heart? He probably spit out the silver spoon because it wasn't gold. 

March 18, 2017
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I'm willing to admit I wrongly supported Hillary at the beginning. Then information came and the facts ruined that. Fairly early too. Like they should have with Trump. Oh well.

 

I said before Trump got elected that he would win because he reflects our country. America is fucking stupid. For all I know most the world is stupid, but I can definitely say with out a doubt that the USA is full of idiots.

 

But you know how people are, Pigg, people care more about not being wrong than they do about being right.

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