the_patriot_smack said
please moron try and explain to us how Ukraine is going to join NATO (they never will)

Well, they included a “path” for Ukraine to join NATO so that’s your “how.” Of course Ukraine can’t be in a conflict at the time, that’s the tricky part. I think we both know what it’s going to take to permanently end the conflict. It’s not rocket science. 

Putin did nothing but strengthen NATO alliances and resolve by invading Ukraine. Even if a full membership is never realized, it was a critical error from Putin and the final nail in the coffin for the former Soviet Republic. 

the_patriot_smack said
or even better yet try and explain how an ex and future president will be locked in a tiny cell with a cellmate while under the protection of the secret service

I never claimed Trump will be incarcerated. Chances seem slim, he’s too powerful. I predicted in my book (published 2019) that he will never be incarcerated, only convicted. I stand by that although I do concede incarceration is a possibility in the documents case. 

Admittedly, incarcerating a former president presents challenges but as for the security detail. The constitution uses the word “may” receive protection, not “must” receive. An important distinction to note. 

Our legal system is two tiered and very fucked. I’m not promising anyone justice. I do believe he will be convicted though. And I feel those convictions will have consequences. What those consequences are is anyone’s guess at this point. It’s irrelevant. You don’t prosecute someone based on the consequences, you prosecute someone based on the offence. 

Pretty simple shit Smak, and I whooped you on accident so don’t get too excited. 

Guest said
If you are so confident, how about a “loser leaves the forum forever” bet regarding the 2024 election? I’d love to say goodbye to a pair of idiots in one day.   

Trump expects to be indicted on Jan. 6 charges ‘any day now

Former President Trump predicted Monday that he would be indicted “any day now” as part of special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into his conduct after the 2020 election.

“I assume that an Indictment from Deranged Jack Smith and his highly partisan gang of Thugs, pertaining to my ‘PEACEFULLY & PATRIOTICALLY Speech, will be coming out any day now, as yet another attempt to cover up all of the bad news about bribes, payoffs, and extortion, coming from the Biden ‘camp,’” Trump posted on Truth Social. “This seems to be the way they do it. ELECTION INTERFERENCE! PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT!”

Smith is investigating Trump’s attempts to remain in power after losing the 2020 election, which culminated with Trump delivering a speech Jan. 6, 2021, in which he repeated false claims about the election being rigged. Trump supporters then violently stormed and ransacked the Capitol in a bid to halt the certification of the election results.

Anticipation over a potential indictment of Trump has been building for weeks after the former president shared that he had received a letter from the Justice Department notifying him he was a target of their investigation.

Target letters typically indicate prosecutors believe they have enough evidence to bring charges against an individual.

In addition, a handful of former Trump officials have reportedly testified in recent weeks as part of Smith’s investigation into the former president’s actions after the 2020 election. Prosecutors are said to have been interested in whether Trump acknowledged that he lost the election despite his public claims that it was fraudulent and could be overturned.

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Trump pursued a multi-pronged plan to remain in office following the 2020 election, turning to the DOJ, state officials and even his own supporters, who violently ransacked the Capitol after then-Vice President Mike Pence refused Trump’s request to overturn the results.

The former president’s attorneys met last week with officials from Smith’s office. Trump called it a “productive” meeting, and he indicated his representatives sought to make the case against bringing charges.

A federal grand jury hearing evidence in the case meets Tuesdays and Thursdays.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4128969-trump-expects-to-be-indicted-on-jan-6-charges-any-day-now/

Guest said
If you are so confident, how about a “loser leaves the forum forever” bet regarding the 2024 election? I’d love to say goodbye to a pair of idiots in one day.   

the_patriot_smack said
yelling at your TV

Sometimes I forget how basic you are. This was a good reminder. 

the_patriot_smack said
unhinged 9-11 was Trumps fault ramblings

I never said it was his fault, I pointed out who he does business with. You are smart enough to know that doing business with the Saudis is doing business with the people that contributed to 9/11. I wouldn’t do business with an entity that funded the 9/11 highjackers and I’m not even a politician. For a politician, it’s unforgivable. You’re saying “der Trump caused 9/11” but I never did. You’re just trying to undermine my credibility by attributing outrageous statements to me. Amateur night shit. 

the_patriot_smack said
now if you had any balls 

Again, a great reminder of how basic you are. Oh no! I guess I better comply. Tell me the truth, are you in high school? I’m not saying that’s bad I just didn’t know I was talking to someone on this maturity level. I know you are desperate to find out my identity but try not to look so desperate. It’s off-putting. 

I write advertising copy and fiction these days but I appreciate the pitches. Hard pass though. I didn’t stay anonymous on this board for over a decade just to dox myself now. Who I am, or what I’ve done isn’t relevant. You can talk about “guest” all you want but the Trump Train™ will not be derailed. This thread is all about fuck Donald Trump, yo. Wasn’t your vacation for two weeks? Who spends holiday on a message board? Yes, go spend some time with your long-suffering family and pretty please take an extra long time tomorrow when you come up for air. 

Shocker: Trump Is Chickening Out of the Republican Debate

Donald Trump has decided that he won’t participate in the first Republican presidential debate.

If Trump had decided to attend the debate, set for August 23, he would have faced off against Ron DeSantis, who is the closest behind Trump in the polls (although still by a big stretch). Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy, Chris Christie, and Doug Burgum have also qualified.

However, Trump announced Monday that he has no plans to take part. “Let them debate so I can see who I MIGHT consider for Vice President!” he wrote on Truth Social.

Trump has been threatening for a while not to participate in the debate. He even asked the crowd at a rally in Erie, Pennsylvania, on Saturday if he should take part in the debate and was met with a chorus of “No”s.

Trump probably knows that he’ll be the front-runner regardless of whether he debates. Other candidates have tried to goad him into participating, particularly Christie, who predicted Sunday that by the time the debate rolls around, “the front-runner will be out on bail in four different jurisdictions—Florida, Washington, Georgia and New York.”

But the former president seems unfazed. “Why would I give [the other candidates] time to make statements?” he told Reuters last week. “Why would I do that when I’m leading them by 50 points and 60 points?”

While his lead isn’t quite that much, a New York Times/Siena poll published Monday found Trump is leading DeSantis by 37 percentage points.

Trump has called Fox News, which is broadcasting the debate, a “hostile network.” He also previously criticized his former favorite network for not covering his campaign events.

Trump is far and away the front-runner among Republican candidates, despite all of the indictments either already issued or pending against him. Last week, Trump promised to run even if he is convicted and imprisoned. And if anything, the multiple indictments against him have only made him more popular.

Source: https://newrepublic.com/post/174745/shocker-trump-chickening-republican-debate

krunk said

YouTube Video How The Gods Kill  

(Holds envelope to head) 

Guest said

Name two human beings no taller than five foot three…

(Opens envelope) 

Trump’s campaign finances are strained as legal peril mounts

Donald Trump’s political operation entered the second half of the year in a strained financial position with its bank account drained by tens of millions of dollars that were directed toward defending the former president from mounting legal challenges as he seeks the White House again.

Trump took in over $53 million since the start of 2023, records show, a period in which his two criminal indictments in Florida and New York were turned into a rallying cry that made his fundraising soar. Yet the Republican presidential front-runner burned through at least $42.8 million this year, much of it used to cover costs related to the mounting legal peril faced by Trump, his aides and other allies, leaving him with $31.8 million cash on hand. And that was after receiving a lifeline from a pro-Trump super PAC that agreed to refund millions of dollars in contributions that Trump’s operation had previously donated to it.

New campaign finance disclosures made public ahead of Monday night’s filing deadline showed Trump’s network of political committees spent roughly $25 million on legal fees. But according to a person familiar with the situation who insisted on anonymity to discuss the matter, the number is considerably higher: $40 million this year alone.

It’s a familiar position for Trump, carrying an echo of the 2020 presidential contest when his massive cash advantage over Joe Biden evaporated amid profligate spending by his campaign. Though Trump currently dominates the Republican primary field, a lack of cash could force his campaign to make difficult spending decisions as he braces for the possibility of two additional indictments, which could come as soon as this week in Georgia and Washington and are related to his efforts to overturn the outcome of the 2020 election.

“I’ve never seen anything like it,” said Paul S. Ryan, a longtime campaign finance attorney in Washington, referring to the sum Trump’s operation spent on legal fees this year. “There’s no legal issue. It’s really just a question for his donors: Do they want to be funding lawyers?”

Trump is not alone in his money struggles. His top rival, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis raised over $20 million after launching his much-hyped candidacy in May. But DeSantis, who trails Trump in a distant second place, hemorrhaged cash in his first six weeks as a candidate, burning through $8 million in a spending spree that included more than 100 paid staffers, a large security detail and luxury travel.

Never Back Down, a super PAC supporting him that can raise and spend unlimited amounts, reported raising $130 million in a filings submitted before Monday’s midnight deadline. But it also spent roughly one-quarter of that money, much of it going to cover operations, like voter turnout, that are typically paid for by a candidate’s campaign, filings show.

The group was financed with $80 million left over from DeSantis’ successful 2022 gubernatorial reelection campaign. Most of the other cash was raised from several dozen corporations and donors, who gave over $100,000, including Robert Bigelow, a Las Vegas-based businessman, who gave Never Back Down $20 million, records show.

DeSantis has pledged to reset and trim expenses, laying off more than a third of his staff. Trump does not have the same luxury.

To help offset his growing legal bills, Trump’s allies are launching a new fundraising effort. The Patriot Legal Defense Fund, as it is called, is intended to defray costs for those “defending against legal actions arising from an individual or group’s participation in the political process,” according to a filing made last month with the IRS. The group will be run by Trump campaign senior advisers Susie Wiles and Michael Glassner.

“The weaponized Department of Justice and the deranged Jack Smith have targeted innocent Americans associated with President Trump,” said Trump spokesman Steven Cheung. “In order to combat these heinous actions by Joe Biden’s cronies and to protect these innocent people from financial ruin and prevent their lives from being completely destroyed, a new legal defense fund will help pay for their legal fees.” The fund was first reported by The New York Times.

Smith is the special counsel leading the federal investigations of Trump. His team has expressed interest in the payment of legal fees for Trump-aligned witnesses in the investigations and has sought information about it, according to a person familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to discuss ongoing criminal probes.

Trump’s PAC has also requested that his super PAC, MAGA Inc., return some of the money that it transferred to seed the group to help cover costs. Filings show Trump’s PAC, Save America, received $12.2 million in refunds from the group in May and June.

A spokesman for the super PAC did not respond to a request for comment.

Trump launched Save America, in the days after the 2020 election, which he lost to Biden. For weeks, the group bombarded supporters with a nonstop stream of text messages and emails that purported to raise money for an “election defense fund” that would be used to contest the election’s outcome.

But the $170 million that the effort raised in less than a month was not used to contest the election, records show. Instead, it was used to pay down campaign debt and replenish the coffers of the Republican National Committee, with Trump also stockpiling another large chunk for his future political endeavors. Last year, the Justice Department issued a round of grand jury subpoenas that sought information about the political action committee’s fundraising practices.

Since then, Save America has served as a different sort of “defense fund,” covering the legal expenses for Trump operatives, allies and employees who have been ensnared in the Justice Department’s ongoing investigation.

Some of Save America’s money has been used to boost other candidates, though it’s a pittance compared to how much Trump has spent on ballooning legal costs.

As the 2022 midterm elections approached, Trump pledged to back congressional candidates loyal to him. But of the roughly $65 million earmarked by Save America for political spending, less than a third — about $20 million — was used to back midterm candidates through campaign contributions or paid advertising.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/31/trump-legal-bills-pac-defense-fund-campaign-filing-2024/b5c936cc-2fd1-11ee-85dd-5c3c97d6acda_story.html