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January 6, 2020
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Pigg said

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Sorry, I don't listen to CNN propaganda.

I'd like you to explain why I, or anyone else really, should take the blogs and articles you posted any more seriously than the one I provided.  

I'd love to see proof Russians have done anything. Don't just say a CIA report found it and then walk away! LOL. The fact you'd rather chase phantom Russians instead of talking about Trump's links to the Israelis, and sickos like Epstein and his own closet full of masonry and likely pedophilia skeletons, shows you have your priorities mixed up. Just like CNN wants you to,.

Do you want to have a series discussion about how many politicians are perverts and linked to child abuse sex rings or not? I can give you specific articles with extended urls, instead of just blog addresses without telling you where to begin. Do you want to exchange evidence or not? Do you wanna talk about Putin or not? Do you want to be a hypocrite and expect me to read what you put up, but then refuse to read what others give you? Because I'm willing to trade sources on the presumption each person will read what the other gives them instead of making excuses to justify staying in a box.  Are you?

January 6, 2020
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I posted one link. And it was really just a joke.

 

Post one link and I'll read it 

 

But before I read it, answer my question.

January 6, 2020
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"Post one link and I’ll read it. But before I read it, answer my question."

Let's see what his previous question was.

I’d like you to explain why I, or anyone else really, should take the blogs and articles you posted any more seriously than the one I provided.

And what did he say afterwards when I challenged his link claiming Putin somehow got Trump elected (voter fraud, persuading Americans to change their votes, I dunno, nobody can fucking tell me) and called it CNN propaganda...when I challenged his link and demanded actual proof of Putin meddling, this is what he then said:

I posted one link. And it was really just a joke.

So what does that mean, he wasn't serious? I don't get it. Because thedailybeast is not a satire news site like the onion. If HE doesn't take that story seriously, THEN WHY DID HE PUT THE LINK UP AS IF HE DID BELIEVE IT? He even claimed this article POSSESSED AN ACTUAL ANSWER to a certain issue that HE raised:

Why do you think so many republicans have backpedalled after calling out Trump before the election?

So no, he didn't mean it as a joke. And now with him playing all of these games, flip flopping or whatever, I owe him an explanation as to why he should read this link?

https://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2020/01/trump-kills-top-iranian-general.html

Simple. The same reason he should watch the first 30 minutes of this video I already posted. Because it cuts through the mainstream media lies and it shows how there was NO ATTACK on an American embassy and that THIS WAR that Trump is trying to get with Iran is only continuing Israeli policy that has been outlined since the 80's. And Iran was NEVER a threat to America, and they never did 9-11. Iran (shia Islam) as well as Iraq were in fact causing problems for the Sunnis in ISIS that America and Israel were backing because America and Israel want to control all that land. Lebanon. Syria. Iraq. Iran. Iraqi intelligence has repeatedly busted Israel and America funneling money and supplies to ISIS and also to intermediaries that contact ISIS.

If Pigg keeps a closed mind and rejects the possibility of this kind of corruption happening in the physical world, rejects it outright with no rhyme or reason, then that reflects on him and not the validity of the article he refuses to read. He wants to keep his head in the sand and blame everyone else for what he chose to do. Very immature.

January 6, 2020
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In other words, the reason that Iran general was killed was because he was working with Iraq to expose the Israeli and American links to ISIS and he was working to de-escalate the situation. For screwing around with the Israeli and American puppets ISIS, THAT is why he was murdered. He signed his own death warrant for trying to avoid war. You NEVER get in the way of war that expands Israeli territory and lines American pockets with more money.

In case you don't know, war is a racket and exists only to enrich the rich and have the poor middle and lower class people die for it.

January 6, 2020
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According to this glorious metal ringmaster, Trump ate ice cream "...while offing this Iranian asshat..."

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January 6, 2020
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So I went to that link and this was the first image that popped up:

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And since your I know for sure that your sources are Nazi bullshit, I'm done engaging you on this bullshit. You can post all the links and walls of text you want. I'm not going to read them. 

January 6, 2020
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And since your I know for sure that your sources are Nazi bullshit, I'm done engaging you on this bullshit. You can post all the links and walls of text you want. I'm not going to read them.   

Pigg has been triggered. Apparently it never occurred to him that a person can be critical of Israel and the Israeli lobby in America, but can ALSO hate:

1. Nazis
2. fascism as a form of government.
3. white supremacists.

Proof? The Nation of Islam and Black Hebrew Israelites are a thing and they have harsh words for Jews, and yet they aren't Nazis.

Secondly, I will agree that this one picture is kind of in poor taste, but it doesn't refute EVERYTHING ELSE in the article. Namely that this Iran general was murdered because he was working with Iraq to contain and push back ISIS - which is nothing more than an American and Israeli proxy in the region.

Plus, Pigg, ever to be a person with on open mind (sarcasm) also ignored this from me:

The REAL connection between Putin and Trump is that they are both bumboys of old European satanic masonry and the Jewish/Israeli mafia.

In other words, what I mean by this is that in the conspiracy pyramid, someone sits WAAAAYYY above Israel and Jewish bankers like the Rothschilds. Pigg ONCE AGAIN makes assumptions about me and internet links based on either no evidence, or the smallest amount of evidence. Here is something Pigg also won't acknowledge.

https://mondoweiss.net/2020/01/israel-played-a-role-in-us-decision-to-assassinate-iranian-general/

srael figured in US decision to assassinate Iranian general

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Donald Trump’s justification for assassinating the Iranian military leader Qasim Suleimani on January 2 was Suleimani’s alleged threats to American diplomats and soldiers in Iraq. But even the New York Times cites his responsibility for “waves of militia attacks on Israel” and an attack on Saudi Arabia as reasons for the assassination.

Many reports suggest that Israeli interests were taken into account in Trump’s decision. Noga Tarnopolsky in the LA Times reports that Israeli officials got advance notice:

Israel had advance notice of the U.S. plan… Israeli military and diplomatic analysts reported Friday night while refraining from providing further details due to heavy military censorship.

“Our assessment is that the United States informed Israel about this operation in Iraq, apparently a few days ago,” Barak Ravid, a journalist and commentator with deep sources in the Israeli security establishment, said on Channel 13.

The Trump administration consulted with Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, and Israel ahead of the strike, but did not consult with European allies, says Negar Mortazavi of the Independent. “[Mike] Pompeo called Netanyahu, MBS [Mohammed bin Salman], and MBZ [Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed] more than once in the past few days to discuss Iran, per State Department.” Mortavazi notes that State Department releases yesterday show that Pompeo called the UK and German foreign ministers after the fact.

Sana Saeed of AJPlus observes:

Congress didn’t know about the decision to assassinate Soleimani – but guess who did? Israel.

Jeff Morley reports that Israeli security officials had recommended the assassination of Suleimani last year. “After Mossad targeted Soleimani, Trump pulled the trigger.” Morley reported last October that Israel appeared to be targeting Suleimani.

Last October Yossi Cohen, head of Israel’s Mossad, spoke openly about assassinating Iranian general Qassem Soleimani, the head of the elite Quds Force in Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

“He knows very well that his assassination is not impossible,” Cohen said in an interview. Soleimani had boasted that the Israel’s tried to assassinate him in 2006 and failed.

“Trump has now fulfilled the wishes of Mossad,” Morley concludes. “After proclaiming his intention to end America’s ‘stupid endless wars,’ the president has effectively declared war on the largest country in the region in solidarity with Israel, the most unpopular country in the Middle East.”

The New York Times reports that Israeli officials had previously pushed the idea of killing Suleimani but leaders in Israel and the U.S. resisted, lest the killing detonate a war with Iran.

At least once, though, Israeli officials ran the possibility of attacking him up their command structure. That was in February 2008, while Israeli and American intelligence operatives were tracking Mr. Mugniyah, the Hezbollah commander, in the hopes of killing him, according to senior American and Israeli intelligence officials. [Imad Mugniyah was assassinated by Israel in Syria in 2008.]

Jonathan Ofir writes on Facebook:

The notion that USA acted on its own, without connection to Israel, is a claim that only benefits Israeli Hasbara.

MJ Rosenberg tweets that Israel’s complicity in the attack will never be explored by Congress.

Congress will never investigate #Israel‘s role in #Iran attack & whatever happens next because both parties are owned by #AIPAC, which is owned by #Netanyahu.

Speaking of AIPAC, the leading Israel lobby group voiced its pleasure at Trump’s decision yesterday and likened Suleimani to Osama bin Laden:

The president’s decisive action brought to justice one of the world’s most dangerous terrorists, who was responsible for the deaths of over 600 U.S. servicemen.

As the commander of Iran’s IRGC-Quds Force, Qasem Soleimani ruthlessly carried out the regime’s revolutionary ambitions, causing death and destruction across the Middle East while endangering our allies and interests…

AIPAC seemed to echo Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who lavished praise on Trump yesterday: “President Trump deserves all the credit for acting swiftly, forcefully and decisively. Israel stands with the United States in its just struggle for peace, security and self-defense.”

Just as important as AIPAC is the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a pro-Israel thinktank that has supplied many policy analysts to the Trump administration.

One of those Trump hawks, Richard Goldberg, left his job as a senior national security advisor at the White House yesterday; but Bloomberg reports that Goldberg’s salary was paid by FDD. “Goldberg will return to FDD, which continued to pay his salary during his time on the National Security Council.”

Former Obama official Ned Price is disturbed by the report: “If true, it’s a reminder that corruption and conflicts of interest are always part of the equation – even when the stakes couldn’t be higher.”

Reporter Nick Wadhams explains FDD’s influence:

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton created Goldberg’s job — director for countering Iran’s weapons of mass destruction — explicitly for him. The goal was to counter what Bolton saw as a desire at the departments of State and Treasury to weaken the “maximum pressure” campaign against Iran…

That fight was only one of the administration’s internecine battles related to Iran and underscored the influence wielded by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, the think tank where Goldberg previously worked, in pushing for a tougher line against Iran.

In its coverage of the assassination, The New York Times gave prominent space to FDD’s ceo, Mark Dubowitz, to justify the assassination of Suleimani. Eli Clifton of the Quincy Institute points to the funding for FDD:

Perhaps relevant to disclose to NYT’s readers that FDD’s biggest donor is Trump mega donor Bernie Marcus who says “Iran is the devil”?

You’re literally quoting someone affirming Trump’s foreign policy decisions who is funded by one of Trump’s biggest donors.

Marcus is founder of Home Depot and Trump’s second biggest donor after Sheldon Adelson. Far and away Trump’s largest donor, Adelson has said he wished he had served in the Israeli army not the U.S. army. He once urged President Obama to nuke Iran.

Eli Clifton reported two years ago that Marcus and Adelson and a third pro-Israel billionaire donor paved the way for Trump to withdraw from the Iran deal.

Marcus called the Iran deal a “deadly deadly treaty,” Militarist Monitor reports. And Marcus has funded many rightwing pro-Israel groups:

According to tax filings, Marcus’ eponymous foundation has supported hawkish and neoconservative-linked groups like the American Enterprise InstituteChristians United for Israel, Friends of the IDF, the Hoover Institution, the Hudson Institutethe Israel Project, the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, the Manhattan Institute, and the Middle East Media Research Institute, as well as other conservative groups like Judicial Watch and the Philanthropy Roundtable.[2] He also sits on the board of directors for the Republican Jewish Coalition.[3]

Colin Powell once blamed the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs for the plan to invade Iraq, which he supported. The idea that Israel figured prominently in U.S. policy makers’ decision to invade Iraq is both widely accepted— and disputed. Often this idea is said to be bigoted; and that’s one reason the mainstream press avoids the Israel angle, then and now.

Thanks to Scott Roth and James North.

The idea that Israel would never want to attack or "disarm" Iran is stupid. Israeli warhawks have been demanding this since Amadinejad was in office years ago. Pigg doesn't know politics.

January 6, 2020
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January 6, 2020
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Maybe Pigg can relax because that site ALSO exposes Nazis, old and modern. Examples:

https://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2015/07/royal-nazis.html

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/.....nazis.html

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/.....rings.html

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/.....nazis.html

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/.....nazis.html

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/.....nists.html

Edit:
This is not about getting Pigg to admit his errors or thick headed ways. This is about putting information out there for others to see so that they can see how full of shit Pigg is.

January 6, 2020
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Modern Nazis are the worst.

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January 6, 2020
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One more for the road. Just to irritate Pigg.

 

January 6, 2020
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Do we even know who made the final decision to pull the trigger? There's an Ethan Hawke movie called good kill that focuses on a drone pilot and the decisions everyone around him makes. Seems like there are lots of hands in the cookie jar and Trump doesn't deserve all the love or hate he is getting for this. I'm not sure that one person makes this call.

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January 6, 2020
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Yeah it was Trump's decision. He was given option.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/given-multiple-options-aides-surprised-trump-ordered-soleimani-strike-report/

Aides to US President Donald Trump reportedly did not expect him to approve the killing of Iran’s top general, which was presented to him as one of a range of options as a response to the killing of an American contractor and the storming of the US embassy in Baghdad by pro-Iranian protesters.

The Pentagon said the US military killed Gen. Qassem Soleimani, the head of Iran’s elite Quds Force, in Baghdad Friday at the direction of Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/04/us/politics/trump-suleimani.html

 In the chaotic days leading to the death of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s most powerful commander, top American military officials put the option of killing him — which they viewed as the most extreme response to recent Iranian-led violence in Iraq — on the menu they presented to President Trump.

They didn’t think he would take it. In the wars waged since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Pentagon officials have often offered improbable options to presidents to make other possibilities appear more palatable.

The decision was Donald's.

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Pigg said

The decision was Donald's.  

that's President Trump to you

and yes it was his decision 100%

like if he wanted to declare martial law that would also be 100% his decision 

and if I was him I would decide that antifa are terrorists and destroy those pieces of shit

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I say again, we're probably on the eve of destruction. Stock markets crashing, coronavirus spreading, asteroid headed for earth, corrupt president already working on selling out the US yet again, violence everywhere, its in your fucking face all the time you can't escape it. 

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how bout now?

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Nah, just be smart and chill out.

Freaking out won't help anybody.

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@86

YouTube Video ★ Ignignokt - "I hope you can see this, because I am doing it as hard as I can."   

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YouTube Video ★ Ignignokt - "I hope you can see this, because I am doing it as hard as I can."   

And 4 real, dude:

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oh fuck me, right? i couldn't give a fuck less what you think of me krunk. put trumps dick back in your mouth because i'm tired of listening to your horseshit. enjoy the bed of hate you helped create.

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