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Biden puts more homosexuals at risk
January 24, 2021
7:44 pm
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https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/biden-reverses-travel-ban-muslim-majority-countries

 

The original order was first enacted in 2017.

By Alison Fox
January 22, 2021
 
 
President Joe Biden this week reversed a controversial travel ban on certain countries with majority Muslim populations in one of his first efforts to overturn actions taken by his predecessor, Donald Trump.
"The United States was built on a foundation of religious freedom and tolerance, a principle enshrined in the United States Constitution.  Nevertheless, the previous administration enacted a number of Executive Orders and Presidential Proclamations that prevented certain individuals from entering the United States — first from primarily Muslim countries, and later, from largely African countries," Biden wrote in his presidential action reversing the ban on Wednesday. "Those actions are a stain on our national conscience and are inconsistent with our long history of welcoming people of all faiths and no faith at all."
The executive order, criticized as a Muslim ban, was first enacted in 2017 and jeopardized the visas of people in several countries, including Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. The order was immediately challenged in court and went through several iterations with a more narrow version eventually upheld by the Supreme Court in a 5-4 vote.
In January 2020, Trump again considered widening the ban to include more countries like Myanmar, Sudan, and Tanzania. 
On Wednesday, Biden said while the U.S. will "apply a rigorous, individualized vetting system" for visa applications, "we will not turn our backs on our values with discriminatory bans on entry into the United States."
As part of his executive order, Biden said anyone who had their visa application denied because of the ban may have their application reconsidered. 
In addition to reversing the ban, Biden asked for a review of the U.S.' current screening and vetting procedures, including how social media is used, as well as a report on the efficacy of foreign government information-sharing practices.
 
The move to reverse the ban was one of several executive actions Biden took hours after being sworn in as the 46th president, including implementing new mask mandates in airports, on public transportation, and on federal lands, and requiring international travelers to quarantine upon arrival to the U.S.
Alison Fox is a contributing writer for Travel + Leisure. When she's not in New York City, she likes to spend her time at the beach or exploring new destinations and hopes to visit every country in the world. Follow her adventures on Instagram.
January 24, 2021
7:52 pm
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https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/islam-is-soooo-tolerant-of-gay-people-right/

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/politics/why-the-left-is-asleep-in-islam-and-sharia-law/

 

Now of course you're going to have liars like KLF who, because of the horrible history of a few things whites (that are long dead by the way, in case you were unaware), have done:

1. The Jewish holocaust
2. Slavery
3. Columbus and the subsequent ethnic cleansing of Aboriginal peoples

,etc etc etc

 

are desperate to ignore and downplay anything horrible that brown or black people have done for the SOLE REASON that to criticize any non-white SOUNDS LIKE a racist who criticizes all blacks or all browns unfairly. LOL.  So when it comes to Muslims murdering gays, abusing women, disproportionate rape stats in Europe, they ignore that. In the name of fighting anti-semitism also, because Jews are a minority and have often been picked on. Funny how they don't want to discuss how Muslim presence in Europe brings not only increased rape, but also increased attacks on Jews. Funny how the left, so desperate to weed out white anti-semitism, are struck deaf and dumb when brown anti-semitism rears its head. It doesn't exist to them. Then again, most modern leftists are hypocrites that lack a sense of irony and possess an apathy about double standards and hypocrisy.

So what do they do when it comes to how horrible Muslim majority countries treat gays? They simply ignore it, or they tell outright lies such as "Islam has no problem with gay people." Or "Muslim immigrants to the west are more tolerant of gays than their white, western counterparts." We all know this is fluff and the statistics and history prove the exact opposite. We know that guys like KLF don't actually believe this crap they say about Islam and gay rights. They do it for "higher, moral" reasons. They lie for a greater perceived good in their mind. The idea of truth simply for the sake of truth is repugnant to them.

January 24, 2021
11:17 pm
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People used to justify all of those horrible crimes white people did when they were doing them by twisting statistical information to paint the victims as a bunch of rapists just like you do.

Congrats.

Not only are you a bigot but you're probably putting more gay people in danger by denying them refuge than you would by letting muslims into a country where killing gays is unacceptable.

Idiot.

January 24, 2021
11:24 pm
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King Lucem Ferre said
People used to justify all of those horrible crimes white people did when they were doing them by twisting statistical information to paint the victims as a bunch of rapists just like you do.

Congrats.

Since he didn't give an example, I'm going to have to make one up. Let's see. Um...

Whites were lynching blacks in the 1800's because blacks were considered sex driven maniacs and innocent white women who were thought to never lie about anything had to be protected. Their predatory nature was "proven" by phrenology.

There we go. That's what he wanted to say but didn't.

I fail to see what lynching blacks in America centuries ago has to do with Muslims killing gays in the middle east right now. KLF has made some kind of retarded connection that only he can explain. But I don't think he can even do that. Probably because he knows deep down that blacks aren't arabs and also because the 1800's are not the 2000's.

 

Not only are you a bigot

Not wanting Europe in the 21st century to have to live with beheading and clit chopping of girls makes me a bigot. Hmmmm. Didn't I say earlier on the board that there are plenty of other NON WHITE candidates for immigration into France? Yep. So clearly I'm not a bigot. Quality control is not being a bigot. Wanting French speaking African Americans (black) as well as coptic Christians from Egypt (brown) to move to France instead of Muslim jihaids is not bigotry. That would make France multi cultural and a person like me who is fine with that kind of multi racial, multi culturalism is NOT a racist or a bigot! Lefties, you have to dispense with this false argument that has arisen in the 21st century that multi culturalism is ONLY DEPENDENT on how many or how few Muslims exist in a western country.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT, VINYL! I'M JUST SAYING WHY CLOSE THE BORDERS TO MUSLIMS AND NOT OTHER BLACKS AND BROWNS?

Because of what the stats show for beheading and clit chopping. Stats aren't racist. Sorry. Neither is wanting France to take in blacks or browns from different places that behave better. So you have no evidence to claim I'm a racist or bigot YET AGAIN!

but you’re probably putting more gay people in danger by denying them refuge than you would by letting muslims into a country where killing gays is unacceptable.

Muslims don't kill people. Whites with border control do.

*Eye roll*

I'd rather just have the CIA, NSA and Mossad who have very good spy networks and technology on the terrorists, partner up with Amnesty International and Bet Selem, to find out where all the gay Muslims are in hiding and let THEM into the west, as opposed to the straight men who have a DISPROPORTIONATE PROBLEM WITH RAPE AND HOMOPHOBIA AND JEWS! KLF says open the borders, don't have background checks, don't worry about head and clit choppers. Those are worth the risk to find the few gays. I'm not sure why KLF would be opposed to such a detailed spy network and background check to make sure the west was ONLY taking in the gays.

But for him to say that leaving gays in a Muslim part of the world would be dangerous

you’re probably putting more gay people in danger by denying them refuge

is to prove the very fucking point I've been making about Islam's anti gay practices in the middle east. Funny how he's now agreeing with me how dangerous Islam is to gay people. Yet when I said those very things weeks and months ago, he called me a bigot. KLF just can't make up his mind. He constantly flip flops and ends up exposing his own hypocrisy and double standards every time he tries to "own" me.

January 24, 2021
11:35 pm
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No vinyl, I don't think that leaving gays in Islamic countries is dangerous. That's what you think, I'm just trying to turn your argument around on you.

Well since I said I would welcome gay ex Muslims into the west, your accusation that I would let them die if I had the power to save them all is INCORRECT! Which means if you're DENYING the horrible treatment gays have received in Muslim countries, then you're not only a liar about me, but you're out of touch with reality. Then again, I already knew this about you.

January 24, 2021
11:36 pm
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I successfully own you, dude. Not only did I show how you're a bigot, but also an idiot who'd rather have gay people die in the middle east than risk homophobes coming to America where they are far far far less likely to hurt gay people.

 

I own you so much that you're constantly coming back to me like a little dog begging for a treat. "Please, please notice me Lucem! I swear I have good rebuttals this time! Please!!"

 

And now I give you some of that attention you're begging me for like a good dog owner.

January 24, 2021
11:39 pm
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but also an idiot who’d rather have gay people die in the middle east

KLF can't read. He just ignores what I write and then pretends I never said it. Because it contradicts his lies about me.

I’d rather just have the CIA, NSA and Mossad who have very good spy networks and technology on the terrorists, partner up with Amnesty International and Bet Selem, to find out where all the gay Muslims are in hiding and let THEM into the west, as opposed to the straight men who have a DISPROPORTIONATE PROBLEM WITH RAPE AND HOMOPHOBIA AND JEWS! KLF says open the borders, don’t have background checks, don’t worry about head and clit choppers. Those are worth the risk to find the few gays. I’m not sure why KLF would be opposed to such a detailed spy network and background check to make sure the west was ONLY taking in the gays.

January 24, 2021
11:51 pm
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That's not a choice because it's literally the most impossibly idiotic idea ever. That's fantasy bullshit. I'd rather our CIA use it's infiltration techniques it uses to instill dictators when ever a crumb of competent socialism rears it's head but I'm not living in fantasy land. On top of it, you probably can't fathom the fact that many would say no especially when it comes to leaving their family behind. It's either immigration or no immigration.

Between those two choices you'd rather gay people be denied refuge from a country that wants them dead or risk having homophobic people come to a place where they are far less likely to abuse gay people because it's unacceptable.

January 24, 2021
11:54 pm
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King Lucem Ferre said
Between those two choices you'd rather gay people be denied refuge from a country that wants them dead or risk having homophobic people come to a place where they are far less likely to abuse gay people because it's unacceptable.  

Beheading and clit chopping in the white liberal west is worth the risk to save a few homosexuals in the middle east. At least in KLF's mind. Not in my mind. He tries to trap me by his own fallacious excluding of the third middle. He wants us to believe that with all the groups and technology we have there are only TWO choices: No gay Muslims coming here, or gay Muslims coming here, but at the price of the beheading of whites and the clit chopping of little girls. Why does he lie that these are the only two alternatives? So he can "win" the debate. But again, he only "wins" by FALLACIOUSLY EXCLUDING THE THIRD MIDDLE.

I’d rather just have the CIA, NSA and Mossad who have very good spy networks and technology on the terrorists, partner up with Amnesty International and Bet Selem, to find out where all the gay Muslims are in hiding and let THEM into the west, as opposed to the straight men who have a DISPROPORTIONATE PROBLEM WITH RAPE AND HOMOPHOBIA AND JEWS! KLF says open the borders, don’t have background checks, don’t worry about head and clit choppers. Those are worth the risk to find the few gays. I’m not sure why KLF would be opposed to such a detailed spy network and background check to make sure the west was ONLY taking in the gays.

 

Since the CIA and the NSA can literally look into people's homes with their satellites and cameras now since lead paint is gone and that would be an obstacle, and also because smart devices like tvs and certain smoke detectors are spying and sending images back to NSA, they can use this in the middle east to find gay people. If they know where whites and blacks are walking in America, they know where arabs are walking in the middle east. Hell, with all the gay Muslims in hiding making comments on youtube saying thank you for exposing Islam's homophobia, they could easily be tracked via IP and smart device location if the NSA and CIA really wanted to help rescue them.

I know these facts are over KLF's head, but HIS IGNORANCE or INCREDULITY about how surveillance technology actually has worked and can work is not a refutation of my third option.

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