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WORST OF MNE RANKING
February 20, 2019
8:06 am
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ToledoTownWickedClown said
Pee Hole Skeet- flow sounds like a wannabe Eminem from the slim shady era but with a more annoying voice. His diss to J was just a bunch of gay jokes and how J is old even tho twiztid is like only 3-4 years younger but ok. 

Gorilla voltage- not a fan but what I heard, they sound pretty fresh. 

Lard- or Lars whatever they are...wack. Gordy is lyrical but I ain’t down with tracks about having sex with kids, I get it, shock value, but how can you truly bump that shit and be like “yea that’s my shit!” Bizarre same thing but just terrible, terrible! A “rapper” who just got lucky because he knew the right people at the right time. horrorcore? More like horrible. 

ROC- I got respect for, I dig his voice and flow and he does have some good tracks

Blaze- IMO, 1 less g will always be a classic in the juggalo world. I like blaze. 

AMB- this is not because of personal beef, I truly never liked their music, even while on PSY

Lex- never heard a track just features, reminds me of a battle rapper, not bad but there’s other underground unsigned rappers who are just as good. Nothing stands out. 

AXE- reminds me a group that razakel and her label would sign. Not unique, just some dudes who look like leatherface. 

Boondox- The harvest and krimson creek were good, after that I lost interest. 

UGA- Never really listened. I can’t base an opinion. 

Twiztid- I believe they have the right to an opinion 100% but the sneak disses since leaving PSY are pussy, then play victim when there called out. They keep at it in some way or another, and I agree with Jumpsteady to the fullest just do your thing and go do you, but they keep at the jabs whether it be subliminal lyrics or Twitter. Just shut up, icp has recently been responding in some way or another but twiztid has been taking shots for years now. Other than that mostatsless thru mans myth was straight up fresh albums.   

I agree with most all of this. Especially about Gordy. Dude is so talented. Fucking wastes it on shock rap.

Agree with your Boondox thoughts as well, however I think "Abaddon" was very good as well.

Twiztid do need to stop. It will show maturity and perseverance if they just fucking stop. The folks on here claiming they dont do subliminals are nuts. They even said some shit on Instagram not long back. I get it, too. I am also a spiteful, petty man at times. Twiztid, especially Monoxide... homies.... let's grow together and take that higher road. We can do this.

February 20, 2019
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Liquor, Lies and Legacy. This is the only reeeaaalllly bad release by MNE. Murder was ok but also had this awful pop garbage with bitches singing hooks.

AXE, Gorilla, YW, AMB, Avengers are mediocre or somethimes decent but not bad.

February 20, 2019
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Rap wise , fuck the roots or watever ur reasoning is for disliking someone ...g mo, axe, twiztid and Gordy are good at their art. Yes i i hate how Gordy wastes it on the shock shit also , i still bang the ghetto boys shit on occasion. Shit is hard af.  G mos mfsb was one of the best underground albumd ever , dudes so far ahead of most other rappers   Can't believe everyone hates on him so much just because he dissed the icp. Y'all can be so sensitive for some i don't give a fuck juggalos.

Blaze has his on and off shit, overall love the guy tho 

Gorilla voltage, amb, uga, lars, boondox....and whoever else isn't mentioned ...all fuckin garbage  . Filler acts

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February 21, 2019
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I wouldnt put Twiztid in the "Worst of MNE" category but they have definitely lost a bit of direction in the last few years.

Twiztid's albums used to sound like albums. Now they just feel like a collection of singles, padded out with forgettable tracks. I used to struggle to listen to their shit out of order. Like I cant even count how many times ive listened to The Green Book, Mostasteless, Mirror Mirror  from start to finish. Even Cryptic Collection 3 sounds like more of a polished project than anything they've put out recently.

 

Id say the weakest links on MNE are:

G-Mo - Same shit on every single song. Everyone is blinded by this guys charisma. He speaks to the angry 15 yr old inside you, who just wanted to tell your teachers to "get fucked" but you were too worried how your parents would react to your school suspension. Im really surprised more people haven't gotten bored of him yet.

UGA, Blaze, ROC, LARS - Old guys trying to sell music to teenagers, without being clever about it.

A.X.E. - What the fuck is that about?

 

Lex is a fucking beast though. Anyone who knows anything about east coast hip hop will appreciate Lex. I feel like they neglect him and dont see him as an asset but hes the only one really spitting on that whole label. Not saying they dont have other good rappers but Lex doesn't need a gimmick, doesn't need a stage set, doesnt need videos with cheap props. He can sell himself on his voice and bars. Hes a real Emcee.

Oh... and I used to hate AMB but I think Otis might be one of the better acts on the label.... controversial.

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February 21, 2019
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Noawareness said
I wouldnt put Twiztid in the "Worst of MNE" category but they have definitely lost a bit of direction in the last few years.

Twiztid's albums used to sound like albums. Now they just feel like a collection of singles, padded out with forgettable tracks. I used to struggle to listen to their shit out of order. Like I cant even count how many times ive listened to The Green Book, Mostasteless, Mirror Mirror  from start to finish. Even Cryptic Collection 3 sounds like more of a polished project than anything they've put out recently.

 

Id say the weakest links on MNE are:

G-Mo - Same shit on every single song. Everyone is blinded by this guys charisma. He speaks to the angry 15 yr old inside you, who just wanted to tell your teachers to "get fucked" but you were too worried how your parents would react to your school suspension. Im really surprised more people haven't gotten bored of him yet.

UGA, Blaze, ROC, LARS - Old guys trying to sell music to teenagers, without being clever about it.

A.X.E. - What the fuck is that about?

 

Lex is a fucking beast though. Anyone who knows anything about east coast hip hop will appreciate Lex. I feel like they neglect him and dont see him as an asset but hes the only one really spitting on that whole label. Not saying they dont have other good rappers but Lex doesn't need a gimmick, doesn't need a stage set, doesnt need videos with cheap props. He can sell himself on his voice and bars. Hes a real Emcee.

Oh... and I used to hate AMB but I think Otis might be one of the better acts on the label.... controversial.  

I'm a New Yorker with strong roots in East Coast hip hop... I guess I'll give Lex another chance but found him insanely bland upon the first tries.

Otis really isnt as good as yall are letting him on to be. Maybe if he branched out with his content, I dunno. Let us see that dude have the cojones to make a weird song about a left field subject... Otis rapping on yoga.. or hunting... or trigonometry.. vampires.. something fucking different.

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February 21, 2019
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Mkay.  I have been drinking, so now I will give my opinion on the entire roster instead of just responding to stuff.  Here we go:

Twiztid:  Still good.  I agree that the sneak dissing is annoying at times.  But musically, they haven't been better.

AMB: Pre-MNE, I love em.  Muerte is still decent, but I want Bonez to open up his mouth and spit like he did on God's Hand.  I don't mind his laid back style, but I know that mofo can spit if he wanted to.  And the Young Wicked solo stuff is fine.

Lex: When he's good, he's fuckin great.  But a lot of it is pretty meh to me.

LARS:  Only 2 projects.  Good novelty rap.  A lot of people like to rag on Bizarre's style.  To me, he's one of those ODB kind of motherfuckers.  Weird ass delivery that barely sounds coherent half the time, but I can appreciate it when I really pay attention.

ROC: He's fine.  It's pretty much just rap.

Gorilla Voltage: I fuckin love these guys.  There's the critique that a lot of it sounds the same, yea, but that doesn't matter to me as long as their default is solid.  Which it is.  And they can and have done other styles, and it still sounds good to me.

G-mo Skee:  Love this guy as well.  Same thing as GV.  It's one style done very well to me.

AXE:  Well, I liked Head of Horns, Sci Co, and Necronomichron beforehand.  And "Massacre Mask" by Knoxx aka Lee Carver was in my collection in regular rotation before he was even in AXE.  So yea, I like them.

UGA:  Hit or miss.  Bukshot's rapping is my problem with it.  He doesn't suck, but it just really isn't my thing.  And he's the front man, so yea.

Boondox: Krimson Creek is my favorite non-ICP Psychopathic Release ever (judge me, I don't care).  Murder was alright, but LLL didn't resonate with me.  Overall, his MNE solo work has been meh.  But he's the best part of UGA.

Blaze: Good, but I don't want them to keep doing the dark "casket maker" persona for him.  He's supposed to be a dead gang member doing hard gangsta rap.  That's not what he's been up to IMO.

Year of the Sword:  Ok, that was great.  It's cool hearing people with wildly different styles try to gel together on a track.  Like Gordy and Boondox, for example.

I miss anybody?  I don't think I did.

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February 21, 2019
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said
Blaze: Good, but I don't want them to keep doing the dark "casket maker" persona for him.  He's supposed to be a dead gang member doing hard gangsta rap.  That's not what he's been up to IMO.

I gotta give a HARD disagree on this one.

 

Not what you said; but the reason for it. I think the "casket maker" thing was fine for an album, maybe two and they should change it up. But I disagree with this mentality of "He's supposed to be this ONE THING". You can't just keep an artist in a box like that. You need to let people evolve, and grow, and change over time musically. Otherwise they just run out of ideas or stop feeling the music and you end up getting shitty records.

 

The best music is made when it's whatever the artist is feeling at the time. Not because it's "what they're supposed to do"

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February 22, 2019
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Old Mr Dangerous said

I'm a New Yorker with strong roots in East Coast hip hop... I guess I'll give Lex another chance but found him insanely bland upon the first tries.

Otis really isnt as good as yall are letting him on to be. Maybe if he branched out with his content, I dunno. Let us see that dude have the cojones to make a weird song about a left field subject... Otis rapping on yoga.. or hunting... or trigonometry.. vampires.. something fucking different.  

Yeah i feel you with Otis needing to branch out. I see a lot of potential in him but he does tend to stick to the "everyone hates me" shit a bit too much.

Honestly, if you appreciate real, east coast spitters. Lex is your man. I agree that he can seem a little bland but its more what he had to work with in the beginning, I think. As he has moved away from Twiztids help and become more independent with the producers hes working with and the types of beats hes using, hes a lot more accessible. 

February 22, 2019
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said
A lot of people like to rag on Bizarre's style.  To me, he's one of those ODB kind of motherfuckers.  Weird ass delivery that barely sounds coherent half the time, but I can appreciate it when I really pay attention.

Yeah you're entitled to your opinion or whatever but... nah. Just nah to this. How you gonna liken one of the most innovative and original individuals in the history of hip hop, to Bizarre?

Im not hating or anything but I cant fuck with this.

February 22, 2019
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said
A lot of people like to rag on Bizarre's style.  To me, he's one of those ODB kind of motherfuckers.  Weird ass delivery that barely sounds coherent half the time, but I can appreciate it when I really pay attention.

Yeah you're entitled to your opinion or whatever but... nah. Just nah to this. How you gonna liken one of the most innovative and original individuals in the history of hip hop, to Bizarre?

Im not hating or anything but I cant fuck with this.  

It's all good.  I wasn't saying that he sounds anything like ODB.  I was saying that both of them have a really weird sound that takes a bit to get adjusted to.  ODB is clearly the better rapper between those 2, lol.  Don't get me wrong here

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February 22, 2019
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Nah man ODB was a lyrical genius in his prime. Bizarre is more comparable to rappers like crunchy black. 

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February 22, 2019
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Yeah there is no comparison skill wise with the two, but I get what Bonesaw is saying. Just that they have unique styles. Bizarre's style, however, is wack as fuck.

This is the only song of his that I like. Mainly because it was a nice closing track for Harold and Kumar.

And Crunchy Black is even more lyrically stunted than Bizarre, but still for some reason isnt as bad to me lol. Bizarre just renders himself unlikable at times with his strange flows and disgusting themes.

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February 22, 2019
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I kinda like this one for whatever reason.  Non-existent lyricism as you've mentioned, but I just like how it looks and sounds.  And you could set a wine bottle on his neck rolls.

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Nah man ODB was a lyrical genius in his prime. Bizarre is more comparable to rappers like crunchy black.   

I'm with ya.  The comparison I was making is strictly on really unusual sound that nobody else does.  Both Bizarre and ODB have that going for them in my opinion.  That's all I meant.

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Bonesaw Wizardstick said
Blaze: Good, but I don't want them to keep doing the dark "casket maker" persona for him.  He's supposed to be a dead gang member doing hard gangsta rap.  That's not what he's been up to IMO.

 

Isn't there Blaze lore behind this? I think it was in the Colton Grundy booklet that tells of 3 personas. I think it was the father(the casket maker), the son(The dead gangster), the brother(Colton Grundy the undying). Blaze was probably just finishing up that story with casket factory and maker. Maybe the next Blaze LP will feature a new persona or every track he'll rap under a different persona?

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