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Triple Threat Album
August 28, 2017
10:46 pm
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wicket_juan said
Definitely ain't no Rydas! fuck!  

I'm sayin though...it's the same shtick minus the Rydas being in on the joke of being fake gangsters and the production being stolen industry beats rather than whatever you wanna call this style of production)...the EP they released earlier was boring enough at 4-5 tracks but I was hoping they'd at least mix it up a bit on the actual album and not stick to the same tired thug gimmick on the whole thing...but they did lol...like I said there's some good verse here and there but still disappointing 

August 28, 2017
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I don't have a problem with it.  The song structure is basically the same throughout, but that's pretty consistent across the board for rap albums outside of the juggalo world.  I don't mind if they just do a normal rap album here and there even though the gimmicks are what I initially fell in love with.

August 29, 2017
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wicket_juan said
Definitely ain't no Rydas! fuck!  

I feel like that's what it was supposed to be. A gangsta gimmick Rydas album on MNE. They even did a medley of Rydas songs during their set at Attack of The Ninjas.

August 29, 2017
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Good album, but pretty boring imo. Beats were meh to me, concept has been beaten into the ground, but they did go pretty hard on the delivery. Probably won't bump it often, it def isn't a classic to me. No real songs stick out either. 

August 29, 2017
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said
I don't have a problem with it.  The song structure is basically the same throughout, but that's pretty consistent across the board for rap albums outside of the juggalo world.  I don't mind if they just do a normal rap album here and there even though the gimmicks are what I initially fell in love with.  

Triple Threat is a gimmick though lol this is by no means a "normal rap album"...its three 30-40 yr old white stoners rapping about fake gangsters while also doing a fake thug gimmick...a normal rap album would be something along the lines of a Chainsmoker

at least when it was Blaze it went along with his character...this is basically just Blaze with Twiztid...I can't call it a MNE Rydas album because there's no self-aware humor in there...like they're in on the joke...just 14 tracks of "I'm gonna shoot you cuz I'm a thug reppin Eastside" over and over again lol

another example of songs that would probably work pretty well live but don't work as well just listening to the album on its own

like I said earlier I would have just preferred a Blaze/Twiztid project without the specific gangster concept for the entire thing...a few of those songs I expect but a whole album gets stale quick 

August 29, 2017
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mentalcaseproject said

Triple Threat is a gimmick though lol this is by no means a "normal rap album"...its three 30-40 yr old white stoners rapping about fake gangsters while also doing a fake thug gimmick...a normal rap album would be something along the lines of a Chainsmoker

at least when it was Blaze it went along with his character...this is basically just Blaze with Twiztid...I can't call it a MNE Rydas album because there's no self-aware humor in there...like they're in on the joke...just 14 tracks of "I'm gonna shoot you cuz I'm a thug reppin Eastside" over and over again lol

another example of songs that would probably work pretty well live but don't work as well just listening to the album on its own

like I said earlier I would have just preferred a Blaze/Twiztid project without the specific gangster concept for the entire thing...a few of those songs I expect but a whole album gets stale quick   

Rap itself is a gimmick if you want to spin it like that.  I can't think of too many artists who rap exclusively about what they actually do in their real lives.  It's all exaggerated to a certain degree.

With the "I'm gonna shoot you cuz I'm a thug reppin Eastside" thing, I can probably find you a thousand examples of rappers who have never shot somebody, but still use gun bars, and they are not considered gimmick rappers.

And for the 30-40 thing, all 3 of them are over 40.

August 29, 2017
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said

Rap itself is a gimmick if you want to spin it like that.  I can't think of too many artists who rap exclusively about what they actually do in their real lives.  It's all exaggerated to a certain degree.

With the "I'm gonna shoot you cuz I'm a thug reppin Eastside" thing, I can probably find you a thousand examples of rappers who have never shot somebody, but still use gun bars, and they are not considered gimmick rappers.

And for the 30-40 thing, all 3 of them are over 40.  

than you for clarifying their ages lol

you make a valid point about a good amount of hip hop out there but there's also plenty of others who aren't just a gimmick

hell I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having a gimmick but when the gimmick is "let's be gangsters...but in a serious way not like Rydas" I lose interest...it's 2017 and even gangsta rap isn't even that poppin anymore so really this album also feels dated

btw...in case anyone thinks I'm just biased against MNE I sorta felt the same way about the Killjoy Club although that album had a few more interesting things to offer than Triple Threat did for me 

August 29, 2017
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mentalcaseproject said

Bonesaw Wizardstick said

Rap itself is a gimmick if you want to spin it like that.  I can't think of too many artists who rap exclusively about what they actually do in their real lives.  It's all exaggerated to a certain degree.

With the "I'm gonna shoot you cuz I'm a thug reppin Eastside" thing, I can probably find you a thousand examples of rappers who have never shot somebody, but still use gun bars, and they are not considered gimmick rappers.

And for the 30-40 thing, all 3 of them are over 40.  

than you for clarifying their ages lol

you make a valid point about a good amount of hip hop out there but there's also plenty of others who aren't just a gimmick

hell I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having a gimmick but when the gimmick is "let's be gangsters...but in a serious way not like Rydas" I lose interest...it's 2017 and even gangsta rap isn't even that poppin anymore so really this album also feels dated

btw...in case anyone thinks I'm just biased against MNE I sorta felt the same way about the Killjoy Club although that album had a few more interesting things to offer than Triple Threat did for me   

Well it isn't entire fictitious when you consider that they all grew up as hood rats in the suburbs of Detroit, but I get what you're saying.  I just didn't have a problem with it because I like to see Twiztid do something a little different.  It's been a long time since they have released something where they aren't rapping about horror movies and adding in all sorts of weird skits and stuff.  Like I said before, that's what hooked me initially.  But I don't mind hearing what I consider to be a normal gangsta rap album from them.

The alternative would have been Blaze doing Twiztid's style, and I can't say I've ever heard Blaze do anything like that before.  He's always been gangsta rap, and Twiztid probably decided to go along with it because they rarely do what it intended as serious gangsta rap.  Which as you said ends up sounding a little goofy because we know they're nerds at heard.  But whatever.  To each his own.  I liked it, haha. 

August 29, 2017
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said

Well it isn't entire fictitious when you consider that they all grew up as hood rats in the suburbs of Detroit, but I get what you're saying.  I just didn't have a problem with it because I like to see Twiztid do something a little different.  It's been a long time since they have released something where they aren't rapping about horror movies and adding in all sorts of weird skits and stuff.  Like I said before, that's what hooked me initially.  But I don't mind hearing what I consider to be a normal gangsta rap album from them.

The alternative would have been Blaze doing Twiztid's style, and I can't say I've ever heard Blaze do anything like that before.  He's always been gangsta rap, and Twiztid probably decided to go along with it because they rarely do what it intended as serious gangsta rap.  Which as you said ends up sounding a little goofy because we know they're nerds at heard.  But whatever.  To each his own.  I liked it, haha.   

A Place in the Woods is a nice example of Blaze doing Twiztid's style...or even Necromancy (though it's technically a Blaze track)...Triple Threat just feels like them regressing as opposed to progressing as artists...some of my favorite music from them is when they step outside the norm and try different shit...I feel like this is more of the same but strictly on that gangsta shit...I could see it appealing to some folks and I'm sure it's worth bumpin in the whip a few times but I expect more from Twiztid and Blaze individually so them joining forces on a project that comes out kinda lackluster is a disappointment...not knocking anyone who fucks with it though...hopefully if they do another one they switch it up more (or maybe do SWK or whatever the other group they had planned was)

August 29, 2017
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I'd be down for some SWK.  Based on what I've read (keep in mind that I was a child in the 90s), it was supposed to basically be HOK, meaning Jamie, Paul and R.O.C. rather than Skrapz and Sol, featuring Blaze.  I could get behind that.

August 31, 2017
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tough crowd in here, I think the album is dope and have been bumping it since sunday.

 

I didn't even notice the over the top thug content, to me its just twiztid and blaze rapping.

Whoop Whoop Jason Caffey :

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August 31, 2017
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I haven't heard shit from it yet cuz I wanna hear its entirety. I preordered last night finally and I'm hyped. I am a little annoyed that when I went to get the physical copy @ twiz shop it just kept returning errors for some reason. So I got it thru google play music and now it looks like twiz shop is totally working to process my order. Ugh. Too late now. Guess thats what I get for being a procrastinator.

And yea, tough crowd here.. but would anyone really expect that to be different? :)

 

On a total side note, if anyone could point out where I can setup a signature to my forum posts here I would greatly appreciate that. PM me if you can help.

August 31, 2017
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Jason Caffey said
tough crowd in here, I think the album is dope and have been bumping it since sunday.

 

I didn't even notice the over the top thug content, to me its just twiztid and blaze rapping.  

I just prefer when artists mix it up a little more rather than just rapping about the same thing for 14 tracks straight...even the production for the most part all sounds the same...as I've said it's not just me tryna knock MNE to knock em...I liked the Killjoy Club album but that also got a bit boring after awhile (at least they switched it up more in the production though and made it a little fun)...just didn't really interest me and I didn't even think their verses were all that great (a few dope ones here and there though I won't front)

September 1, 2017
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Damn.....this is super stale news.  I just downloaded it this morning on the way to work and was gonna bump it this weekend.  I already know what you guys mean......fuck man.

To me, that was The Casket Factory.  Talk about a subject and concept that was beat straight into the fuckin ground!  That album got boring SUPER fast......

September 1, 2017
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said
I'd be down for some SWK.  Based on what I've read (keep in mind that I was a child in the 90s), it was supposed to basically be HOK, meaning Jamie, Paul and R.O.C. rather than Skrapz and Sol, featuring Blaze.  I could get behind that.  

Im confused about this, HOK was Jamie, Paul, and R.O.C..... Jamie and Paul left, then Skrapz joined and R.O.C. changed his name to Sol.

September 1, 2017
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I feel like that album is verses and material that was initially gonna be on the next Rydas album before the falling out between the 2 camps. I think after mud water air blood there was a Rydas album in the works that I heard about but that shit got scrapped.

As far as a concept run into the ground, i dont get that. Like Rydas? Or Lotus? I never felt those were straight run into the ground and I would have to put this album in the same category.

IDK, to each his own.

 

-my 2 cents

September 1, 2017
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Somebody said there from Detroit burbs.....hell naw man.....Jamie and Paul are Detroit City limits all day Gratiot and 7 Mile.  Only one is from the burbs....my burb Mt. Clemens.

September 1, 2017
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djscrubb said
Damn.....this is super stale news.  I just downloaded it this morning on the way to work and was gonna bump it this weekend.  I already know what you guys mean......fuck man.

To me, that was The Casket Factory.  Talk about a subject and concept that was beat straight into the fuckin ground!  That album got boring SUPER fast......  

yeah at the end of the day to each's own...I didn't like this Triple Threat album (or Casket Factory really) but I can't knock those who do...it just doesn't do anything for me personally...there's no features to mix things up, as I mentioned before the production all sounds the same aside from maybe one that has that rock sound Twiztid's been messing with and another that sounds like Death in a Jar kinda...and even those don't really stand out because they're still rapping about the same shit as the last 12 songs lol...it just feels kinda uninspired to me...a few decent verses wasn't enough for me...still a fan and I'd be down to see Triple Threat live as I'm sure a lot of these tracks would work better in a live performance but idk 

September 1, 2017
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yeah at the end of the day to each's own...I didn't like this Triple Threat album (or Casket Factory really) but I can't knock those who do...it just doesn't do anything for me personally...there's no features to mix things up, as I mentioned before the production all sounds the same aside from maybe one that has that rock sound Twiztid's been messing with and another that sounds like Death in a Jar kinda...and even those don't really stand out because they're still rapping about the same shit as the last 12 songs lol...it just feels kinda uninspired to me...a few decent verses wasn't enough for me...still a fan and I'd be down to see Triple Threat live as I'm sure a lot of these tracks would work better in a live performance but idk   

Haha. I reckon you definitely need to make at least one more post about how this albums tracks all sound alike. Plus reiterate how they need to rap about different things. Then add that it's just your opinion and it's cool if others like it. 

I just feel you haven't been clear enough about it.

September 1, 2017
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croatjuggalo said

Haha. I reckon you definitely need to make at least one more post about how this albums tracks all sound alike. Plus reiterate how they need to rap about different things. Then add that it's just your opinion and it's cool if others like it. 

I just feel you haven't been clear enough about it.  

you're right...my 2 cents has been said lol would like to hear some feedback from others who have heard though 

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