StonedRaider said

I assume you're being sarcastic about KFV paying them to do collabs, thats insanity, they pay him to tour why would he pay them to collab. from what iv'e seen, Kung Fu Vampire is a super intelligent and genuine guy who would do better with his money than pay for MNE collabs.

He paid for the collabs. MNE is not going to do anything for free. (Ask Psychopathic)

He's got brotha Lynch hung, ces cru, mayday, locksmith and a bunch of other amazing MC's that he's know to roll with. Nothing towrd you directly but It amazes me what peoples percetion of who's bigger than who in the underground.

What does it matter who he rolls with? More people know MNE artists than KFV.

I bet Kungfu makes more money than all the artists on that label except for Twiztid.

Making so much money he had to ask fans to fund his Canadian tour with Twiztid.

those are his homies, and they feature him on their albums so i garauntee he got those features 100% for free.  

Homies don't mean shit when it comes to business. Ask ICP how much they had to give Twiztid for DL, Gatherings, and Juggalo Day.

As for signing, i hope he doesn't,

agreed

He's headlining canada right now.

A lot of artists (even lesser known artists) headline Canada (see Adlib), so this is kind of a meh statement.

StonedRaider said
I don't think either of us know the truth

exactly. All of us are just assuming.

but I've literally heard KFV say he doesn't pay for collabs in an interview (which is why he doesn't have even bigger collabs than these)

Just because someone says something does not make it true.

I follopw KFV religiously

Let's be honest....no matter what anyone says it won't change your mind. No that I'm trying to, because honestly, whether he pays for shit or not means shit to me.

and all of your theories don't explain why KFV is on Blaze's single Ghost or twiztids album, if they don't consider him a homie why would they feature him like that?

Never said they were not homies. All I said is he paid for collabs. MNE probably paid him to be on those songs.

also, KFV didn't ask for money for canada he was asking for money to pay legal fees to help him get over which was a smart move to earn a little extra cash, he had some background stuff needing cleared (video on youtube i beleive)

Still asking for money. If we was making tons of cash he wouldn't need the help. it's a good racket to run...have other people pay for shit like this. (see Patreon) He is not the only artist to do this.

Also, KFV was main support for both of twiztids last tours, had a wall full of merch selling like crazy, put on an insane performance and had a sick wrapped vehicle.

ok, and ?

If indeed Twiztid and MNE are trying to "court" KFV into signing you god damn right they would hook the homie up with a verse, that aint that big of a deal.

maybe.... but who knows if they are trying to court him.

As for bringing psych into the conversation, MNE is trying NOT to follow in those greedy foot steps.

LOL, yeah, I'm not even going to get into this. I'd be here all week. I'll just leave it at all businesses try to make money...that's how they stay in business.

I know for a fact KFV didn't pay to be on those MNE tours nor be featured on their records SOOO

proof? If it's a fact, there is proof somewhere.

my theory is MNE respect KFV especially since KFV's drummer is now twiztids sound engineer becuase Kung Fu is actually good at what he does and they gave him verses because he gave them verses.

They probably do respect him, doesn't mean they are going to work for free. Verse for a Verse happens all the time.

Chris (KFV's drummer) is now twiztids sound engineer because he (Chris) is good at what he does.....that has nothing to do with how good KFV is.

I believe in my heart from what i've seen from twiztid that they respect people who are talented and they have always fucked with Kung Fu Vampire.

No one is telling you what to believe. We all believe what we believe.

I say we just ask Kung Fu himself, he would probably say it.

Just cause he says something doesn't mean it's true. Artists are not always truthful.

and as for Lynch, they are close friends as well as ces cru. Wrekonize of Mayday and Kung Fu vampire did a CO HEADLINE together making them equals atleast in their eyes.

How do you know what they feel or think. This is what you think.

I've made some strong valid points.

agreed, kind of.

Lets show respect to KungFu for being on his own and not signing with people

I see no disrespect being posted about KFV

because word is he also turned down a Psychoathic deal and Subnoize deal,

record deals are not needed in this day and age of the music business.

ICP also brought KFV on as a support act,

I know, i caught one of the tour stops on the Mighty Death Pop tour

I think both those labels see the greatness in Kungfu,

it's all about opinions. greatness or not...unless the label says so we truly do not know what they think.

the new album will tell us more though im sure.

indeed, I'm looking forward to hearing it.