SwollenThumb said
Go back and listen to Freek Show.  Arguably the most “emo” album they’ve ever done.

Elaborate on that please. 

SwollenThumb said
Freek Show appears to be marketed as a teenage angst album, whereas Heartbroken & Homicidal was more towards adults going through breakups, which are what the opening and closing tracks are about, specifically mentioning going to bars and such.

On Freek Show, you have songs such as “Leave Me Alone” and “Empty”.  And dont forget that the album ends with a suicide note.  These entire songs offer no redemption, just pure sadness and isolation.

Then there’s other songs that venture into emo territory.

“I’m falling to pieces and I don’t know why, it’s all because we’re all afraid to die”

“It’s Twiztid, no love, no hugs, no death, no friends, no light, pitch black.  All I ever see is the ground beneath me”

“You made me how I am, now you hate who I am, good god man”

“All I ever wanted was a noose to hang from, and then I’ll show all of you bitches where I came from”

And while I don’t consider the song “People Are Strange” to be emo per se, it was certainly a hook for angsty teens to give Twiztid a shot back in the day.  This was my experience.  A lot of non juggalos I knew loved Freek Show, and it was that song that got their attention.

Dont get me wrong, I love Freek Show.  I think it’s a classic album, but out of all of the Juggalo albums I’ve ever heard, it’s at the top of the list for albums that would appeal to an angsty wrist-cutting teenager.  

It’s hard to remove Freek Show from the nostalgia block of my brain and listen to it for what it is. Tried listening to it a few years ago and didn’t like it at all. Maybe I need to relisten as an emo album. All of your reasons are valid and my argument is weak but here ya go lol

The reason H&H seems to be the epitome of Twiztid Burton to me is mostly because of the marketing. Everything about it screamed emo. For fucks sake it came with a pencil to write your heartbreaks down with. Add that to the fact that almost every song on it was about their emotions and their inability to cope with them. Which, I would consider to be the definition of emo. It was an emo album that happened to have some non-emo aspects. Whereas Freek Show was a Juggalo rapper album that *dipped its toes* into emo territory. 

*Your response makes me think that they didn’t just dip their toes in it, they fuckin cannon balled from the high dive into it and I was distracted by the something something that this metaphor requires to make sense. 

Interesting take on Freekshow. I personally viewed it more as Twiztids angry album. I personally can’t say it’s emo but just angry like Mirror Mirror. After I dropped my comment towards H&H I revisited the album and re-listened to the LP front to back. I’ll admit it has its moments. Heard Enough, It don’t matter, and Keys to my mind were tracks I simply forget about that I can listen to. But by the end of the album it just doesn’t leave that feeling I get from every Twiztid album

On the subject of Abaddon. That album would have been better off without tracks like Kikdoe and My Night. I actually like My Night but those damn tracks were out of place and took away from the darkness of the album. It just feels like Violent J obligated Boondox into having a comical hoedown track on each of Boondox albums. To me South Of Hell was darker then Abaddon. I’m curious to see how dark The Murder will be.

Tim Burton is goth… not emo…

You guys really are uncultured.

sketchez said
it can’t even be compared to any other album  ..it’s an incomplete project

since they forgot to mix and master it

amazing that anyone on here hasn’t listened to it yet, but has time to post about it  

I’m not listening to it anytime soon. They don’t wanna support juggalos at the march I’m not supporting them. Cancelled my orders on twiztid shop. Eventually I will calm down just not for a while.

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mentalcaseproject said
another thing about the mainstream accusations…Monoxide made Chainsmoker lol that album is waay more of a ‘crossover’ project than this new album…just adding to the point that they’ve always experimented with different shit…I love Chainsmoker personally…hope they get the masters to that joint so they can re-release it on vinyl someday   

Lol they probably aren’t getting masters or jack shit from Psychopathic after everything. Blaze Ya Dead Homie EP is probably the last Psychopathic album they got the masters to release on vinyl. That probably was the EP Violent J reffered to.

What’s everyone mean by ‘masters’?   ..the pro tools files? the exported mixed tracks? the rights to albums?

sketchez said
What’s everyone mean by ‘masters’?   ..the pro tools files? the exported mixed tracks? the rights to albums?  

@sketchez 

https://wendyday.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/own-your-masters/

“While songwriters and producers (provided they own their publishing/copyrights) in urban music have always been compensated when songs are played on radio on streaming services, those who own their own masters have additional revenue opportunities available because they can decide quickly whether or not to license their songs. That being said, if you are signed to a record label, it is VERY difficult (and rare!) to retain the right to own your own masters.“

If you ever have the urge to bitch about anything that’s been released by Psychopathic or Majik Ninja…. Please feel free to either produce a more enjoyable album OR stfu