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Eminem has always been a Juggalo without the clown makeup.
November 8, 2013
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"You make my pee pee go da-doing doing doing."

That line comes from "Ass Like That," a song recorded by Eminem, a grown man, nearly a decade ago. Encore, the rapper's fourth major release and origin of that single, was certainly not his most acclaimed, but esteemed critics like Robert Christgau were still able to hear a grown man say "You make my pee pee go da-doing doing doing" and grant the album four stars (in Rolling Stone) and an A (in his own Record Guide).

To be fair, it wasn't just Christgau and Rolling Stone blowing so much smoke up the MC's poo poo. In 2005, VH1 ranked Eminem one of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time (two years after Rolling Stone did the same). Vibe named him the greatest rapper alive in 2008. For the life of me, in the 14 years since Slim Shady burst on to the scene, I have never understood this. Eminem has forever been a one-tool player with deep character flaws. To put it another way, Eminem has always been a Juggalo without the clown makeup.

In his verses, Marshall Mathers has cut up people with chainsaws, stuffed women into car trunks and choked them, and stabbed "fags" in the head (in case you have forgotten or forgiven "Criminal"). The delineation between Eminem and, say, Blaze Ya Dead Homie or Twiztid often come down to black and white paint. To be clear, my displeasure at these lyrics does not stem from some genteel prudishness. As a teenager, after bombing steep suburban Atlanta hills on a skateboard, building acid–aluminum foil explosives in Gatorade bottles behind the movie theater, or shooting a sawed-off BB gun in the woods, I'd listen to N.W.A., Gravediggaz, Da Lench Mob, Ice Cube. Violent rap, for the most part. Like I said, I was a teenager. Yet even then, the anger and violence of Ice Cube or RZA seemed to be either the result of injustice or clearly fantastical and wrapped in the trappings of comic book horror. Eminem, on the other hand, has awkwardly skated the line between confession and cartoon. He wants us to believe his hatred flows from a well of instilled abuse and pain—and that it's all just a character. It's just a joke, guys! He has no problems with homosexuals in real life. In other words, Eminem is some sort of inverse Orson Scott Card.  

I will admit that I, like other critics, am willing to don blinders if the backing music is on point. Thing is, I never found the music on Eminem records to be of interest. The token triumphant songs ("Not Afraid," "Survival," et al.) rely on platitudes and bland backing vocalists. They're cheesy. The comedic songs rely on dated cultural references (has anyone tried to squeeze as much milk from Kevin Federline?) and locker room jokes Adam Carolla would deem lazy. His beats have always struck my ear as tinny, cheaply inorganic and carnival-like (even the Dre ones), the product of someone without great taste. The samples have always pulled from trite and obvious sources, from Dido and "Dream On" early on to the Zombies and Joe Walsh on the just-released The Marshall Mathers LP 2. The Eminem output around the turn of the millennium sounds like child's play next to contemporaries such as Dungeon Family, J. Dilla, DJ Premier, Dan the Automator, Madlib, Kanye West, the Neptunes, et al. Who would ever listen to Eminem instrumentals? At best, the beats have been a soapbox, a foundational afterthought under the overwhelming spume of verbiage.  

Which brings me to the mic skills of Mathers., the supposed reason to stomach the homophobia, misogyny and general juvenilia. At his essence, Eminem is a battle rapper. For the vast majority that were not able to attend Motor City club battles or Los Angeles Rap Olympics events in the 1990s, the only glimpse of this skill set we have is his biopic, 8 Mile. The MC wars pump the audience's adrenaline as much as a David vs. Goliath boxing match in this Rocky analogue. Eminem dazzles in these scenes of one-upmanship. His quick wit and improvisational skills evince a rare talent. If Eminem concerts were unscripted round-robin tournaments, I'd watch them all.

Thing is, these improvisational skills do not translate into a more scripted arena in which he stands alone. Yes, many, many words course out of Eminem's mouth at great speed. His technical ability and linguistic agility measure with those of the best. So? They're nasally, rigid and graceless. I don't care to hear a full album by Rahzel or John "Motormouth" Moschitta, Jr., a.k.a. the Micro Machines Man. Yngwie Malmsteen will not be held as one of the great songwriters of our era. Rich Little is not held as master thespian. No basketball analyst mentions the names Rafer Alston, Steve Novak and Jeremy Evans in the same breath as LeBron James or Kobe Bryant. The works of Constantin Brâncuși would not fill museums if all he sculpted were truck nuts. 

And that's what The Marshall Mathers LP 2, like The Marshall Mathers LP before it, is—exquisitely rendered truck nuts. Having interviewed Eminem, I found him to be charming, sharp and vivacious. His appeal is certainly not lost on me. As a massive fan of hip-hop, I have tried to like him so many times, only be be repeatedly repulsed by his character and lyrical matter, or left cold by his rigidly loquacious and nasally flow. Marshall Mathers has a truly great album in him. But what hope is left for a 41-year-old doing Yoda impressions and spitting shit like "I hate all bitches the same?"

November 8, 2013
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What about "Stan"? The underlying message of that song is diametrically opposed to a Juggalo mentality. For reference, compare it lyrically to "Juggalo Family" or even "Down with the Clown". The mindset could not be any more different.

November 8, 2013
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I think you might of missed the point Guest.

 

I've tried to like Eminem and it's just not for me. I don't relate to him and I think overall that is a good thing.

November 8, 2013
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Radam said
I think you might of missed the point Guest.

 

I've tried to like Eminem and it's just not for me. I don't relate to him and I think overall that is a good thing.

Well put. I respect him but I feel he was merely "right time, right place". His skills are grand, almost phenomenal. But I don't care to listen to the guy. 

November 9, 2013
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You don't need face paint to be a juggalo! !

November 9, 2013
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fine article, there.  

 

uninteresting side note:  i met john moschitta at some little puddle-jumper airport in iowa.  i asked him to talk fast, of course.  he started in on a rant about, 'whydoeseverybodythinkihavetotalkfastforthem?whereverigotheresalwaystwodozenguyslikeyoubeggingmetosayitsnottherealthing'.  et cetera.  hes a funny guy.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

November 9, 2013
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"Somewhere theres a Waffle House thats severely understaffed right now" -OCJ to Scruffy watching a second stage act at the Gathering.

November 9, 2013
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Old Mr Dangerous said

Radam said
I think you might of missed the point Guest.

 

I've tried to like Eminem and it's just not for me. I don't relate to him and I think overall that is a good thing.

Well put. I respect him but I feel he was merely "right time, right place". His skills are grand, almost phenomenal. But I don't care to listen to the guy. 

agree

 

August 6, 2014
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Face paint does wonders to the looks, you might use the clown makeup to start with but in the end is your choice, and I think Eminem doesn't really care of how people think he does it!

August 6, 2014
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I like the Yngwie Malmsteen comparison. That dude can fuckin murk a guitar, but write a song? Not too much.

August 6, 2014
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i admit when Em came out I was a fan, but was like, fuck him when the whole ICP beef came out. but quickly got over it.  I would agree the Em has ICP influences in his music. I think Relapse was underrated.  His personal life if you listen, is a lot like ICPs personal life when they were younger aswell. Im an Eminem fan.  have you seen his daughter lately?  imma get that

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August 6, 2014
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Eminem wouldn't let weird al make a video/single out if couch potato citing fear that t would damage his image. That's a bitch move.

August 6, 2014
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Couch Potato?

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August 6, 2014
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Sean Law said
Couch Potato?

http://youtu.be/HaoL43teHAg

August 6, 2014
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but he did it anyway?

I'll fuck you till you love me, Faggot!

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August 6, 2014
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wasent he gonna do a song called "Hoagies"  a mock of ICPs "Homies" ?

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August 6, 2014
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Sean Law said
but he did it anyway?

He made the song, performed it live I couple times for shows, but he wasn't allowed to make it a single, or to make a video of it. He doesn't make songs without the artist's permission. Sometimes they get mad after the fact, like coolio.

August 6, 2014
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4:40ish

 

I'll fuck you till you love me, Faggot!

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August 6, 2014
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Poodle Hat is the eleventh studio album by "Weird Al" Yankovic, released on May 20, 2003 on Volcano Records. It debuted at #17 on the Billboard 200. The album was released on an Enhanced CD. The bonus content includes some of Yankovic's real home videos and his commentary on them, as well as synchronized lyrics and instrumental or acoustic versions of some songs. An Easter egg depicts him with his then-pregnant wife, Suzanne, who also appears on the CD cover wearing a hat and glasses. The album's only single, "eBay", would not be released until January 2007. The album's only song to have a music video is "Bob". As of 2012, it remains one of the only three Yankovic albums to have not achieved gold status, along with Polka Party! and UHF – Original Motion Picture Soundtrack and Other Stuff.

 

Track listing

Track Title Length Description
1 "Couch Potato" (Jeffrey Bass, Marshall Mathers, Luis Edgardo Resto) 4:18 Parody of "Lose Yourself" by Eminem. The singer describes his obsession with watching TV and the channels and TV shows that he gets.
2 "Hardware Store" (Yankovic) 3:45 Original.[6] About a new neighborhood hardware store and the things that can be purchased there.
3 "Trash Day" (Chuck Brown, Cornell Haynes, Pharrell) 3:12 Parody of "Hot in Herre" by Nelly. The narrative focuses on the filthiness of the singer's house.
4 "Party at the Leper Colony" (Yankovic) 3:38 Style parody of Bo Diddley, most notably "Hey Bo Diddley" and "Mona" but with Bruce Springsteen-esque instrumentation and vocals plus a saxophone solo a la Clarence Clemons. The song describes a party at a leper colony during which people's body parts keep falling off.
5 "Angry White Boy Polka" 5:04 Polka medley, containing:
6 "Wanna B Ur Lovr" (Yankovic) 6:14 Style parody of Midnite Vultures-era Beck, specifically "Peaches & Cream".[7] The song consists of pick-up lines which become steadily more ridiculous and suggestive.
7 "A Complicated Song" (Yankovic, Avril Lavigne) 3:39 Parody of "Complicated" by Avril Lavigne. The singer laments some mishaps resulting from everyday circumstances, including eating too much pizza and getting constipated, discovering your girlfriend is secretly your cousin, and standing up on a roller coaster ride and getting decapitated.
8 "Why Does This Always Happen to Me?" (Yankovic) 4:52 Style parody of Ben Folds, who also plays the piano in the song. The protagonist describes some particularly horrific tragedies, then complains about the (minor) inconveniences that they have caused him.
9 "Ode to a Superhero" (Yankovic, Billy Joel) 4:53 Parody of "Piano Man" by Billy Joel. Tells the story of Peter Parker/Spider-Man and the basic plot of the first Spider-Man film.
10 "Bob" (Yankovic) 2:29 Style parody of Bob Dylan,[8] most notably "Tombstone Blues", Bob Dylan's 115th Dream and "Subterranean Homesick Blues". Lyrics and title consist entirely of palindromes.
11 "eBay" (Yankovic, Andreas Carlsson, Max Martin) 3:36 Parody of "I Want It That Way" by Backstreet Boys. Describes every manner of obscure items that the singer has purchased on eBay.
12 "Genius in France" (Yankovic) 8:58 Style parody of Frank Zappa.[8][9] Frank's son Dweezil Zappa plays the intro guitar solo. The lyrics describe a person who, although rejected elsewhere, finds acceptance in France.

Music videos

A music video for "Couch Potato" was to be shot shortly after the album's release, but Eminem denied Yankovic permission to shoot it. Yankovic told the Chicago Sun-Times in 2003:

We were already in pre-production. We believed that it was just a formality, that Eminem just wanted to hear the final mix of the song... And then we got a phone call saying he was not going to give permission for a video. We were devastated...I certainly don't have any bad feelings toward Eminem. He was gracious enough to let us use the song on the album—and we use "The Real Slim Shady" in the "Angry White Boy Polka" medley, too. But this is the first album I've ever released without an accompanying video.[10]

A quick video for "Bob" was shot instead and used on the tour and the 2003 edition of Al TV. The video for "Bob" can now be found on the "Weird Al" Yankovic: The Ultimate Video Collection DVD. The video for "Bob" appears to be based on the promo video that was shot for D.A. Pennebaker's Dont Look Back, detailing Dylan's second tour of England, including Bob Dylan's song, "Subterranean Homesick Blues", which was included on Pennebaker's film. The song "Bob" also has very many similarities in rhythm and movement of Dylan's song, "Subterranean Homesick Blues".

As the original short film featured famous beat poet Allen Ginsberg, the video shows a rabbi in the background (played by Al's drummer Jon "Bermuda" Schwartz) speaking with a man in a black suit (played by Yankovic's long-time manager and UHF director Jay Levey).

August 6, 2014
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Release

"Couch Potato" was originally going to be the lead single of Poodle Hat, but due to Eminem's concern that it might hurt his career, its commercial release was postponed indefinitely. Couch Potato has never been released as a promo, nor a commercial single. It is only available on the Poodle Hat CD, or as a digital download on the internet.

Music video

Yankovic intended to make a music video for the song, but the plan was scrapped at the last minute when Eminem expressed concerns that it might disparage his image.[1] According to Yankovic, the video would have included a "patchwork quilt" pastiche of scenes from other Eminem videos.[2]

Yankovic told the Chicago Sun-Times in 2004, "Last year, Eminem forced me to halt production on the video for my 'Lose Yourself' parody because he somehow thought that it would be harmful to his image or career."

Yankovic mocked the situation on his Al TV special where he staged a mock interview with the rapper using footage from a real Eminem interview on MTV News. Eminem said "I believe in...artistic expression." Al countered with "So you think, for example if somebody wanted to do, oh, I don't know, a parody of somebody else's video, they should be able to... artistically express themselves and just do it?" Eminem was shown at a loss for words.

Also in the mock interview, Al simply played the first verse on a boombox while sitting in a chair, reading a newspaper until Eminem eventually turned it off.

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