Bizaar Bizzar had a "similar" sound but at the time it was obvious where they were going and the internet blew up at it. I remember how many people just left after B/B came out. I've never seen such a fall off before. They did a few things they said they'd never do. 1) Diss Eminem on their album(s). 2) Make an emotional song crying about themselves, Behind the Paint. 3) Make a video for one of their more emotional songs, Let's Go All the Way. They started making more serious songs when they spent years saying they wouldn't do that except for a closer. They went out of their way to be taken more seriously after spending years saying fuck all that. There was a lot of lazy filler shit on the albums too. Then the MTV thing happened and it was like what the hell is even going on anymore. They saw Eminem and Kid Rock blowing up huge and they got jealous. But the funny thing is, it was all an illusion. They were already platinum artists. They were already selling out small arenas and even played a couple big ones around the country. Their merch and posters were everywhere. They didn't need to change for anybody. They had more juggalos and "fans" than they ever had and or have had since while still being ICP. They played Woodstock. How much more mainstream could they get? All they ended up doing was losing most of the juggalos and the casual fans. To this day they're still trying to be accepted by the mainstream by being lame and giving in to it's desires. You'd think they'd learn by now but I guess not. Greed is a mother fucker and makes people retarded and stuck on stupid.

B/B was still on a major label backing along with videos. They went from platinum to not gold in a year's time. You can't blame downloads on that. It was a mix of Eminem dissing them and they started falling off musically. But the Eminem beef started it all.

Who the fuck would've thunk that one little lone MC would be able to take the whole culture and re-upholstery it
And boy they did flock
Can't believe this little hick locked
This hip hop shit in his pocket and still the shit got
That white trash traffic and gridlock
Shit happened like a six blocks from a Kid Rock
Insane Clown Posse Concert in mid Oc-tober
And got forbid I see a wizard and get a brain in my titanium cranium dog
Cause I turn into the unabomber mama always said

i wanna hear icp's reaction to all of these references..

I remember on one of their Stern appearances Shaggy said if he had one wish in the world it wouldn't be for peace, but for Eminem to be in front of him so he could beat the hell out of him. Then later challenged him to a boxing match. I'm not giving Eminem the entire credit for their fate. But people REALLY hated ICP during that beef and it got to them to the point where they tried changing their shit up to make the people who hated them happy. Big mistake. I don't want to say they got trolled, but they got trolled. 

Also

"Shaggy will start drinking and be great on Jokers Cards but wack on Dark Lotus albums"

lol

there's no beef though anymore lol...these references obviously make Em sound like more of a fan of theirs than anything and like he's paying them a little respect in a way...its 2013 and Eminem is still talking about ICP?...now if he came out and said fuck those guys all over again that's another story but IMO he was giving them props and I remember even seeing an article where he said he was a fan of Miracles and thought it was awesome lol

I haven't had the time to read this whole forum but Incase it's not posted he mentions ice 3 times on 3 different so he on this album. The magnet one is sort of a jab but I wouldn't say these where disses. Let's face it he is a huge icp fan and has used their style all over most of his albums

adamjboss said
I haven't had the time to read this whole forum but Incase it's not posted he mentions ice 3 times on 3 different so he on this album. The magnet one is sort of a jab but I wouldn't say these where disses. Let's face it he is a huge icp fan and has used their style all over most of his albums

idk.. i think it can be argued eminem was influenced to do the animated "out there" raps by esham just like icp were.. i think esham wouldve gotten some shout outs if he hadnt went in on Em for so many years.. hell he got a shitload back in the day..

rivera13anthony said
i feel stupid asking this but did it leak

yes it did