Four people say answers two and three. Miklo and Jonah voted for me, Mr. Popo. Seems like I have two people crushing on me. How queer of them.

Nah. See Twiztid and Icp beefing didn't kill the forum. They had no impact on this forum aside from being a place for Juggalos and the like minded to shoot the shit about various topics. When an npc shows up and does nothing but spew nonsense and goes unchecked because people confuse free speech and stupidity on flawed morals of righteousness. You'll see a max exodus of members without proper moderation. You'll see people going else where to congregate and eventually get news. This site is on its last legs and even after a site revamp if everything stays the same it will sink.

If everything looks different but nothing changes is it better? Is it worse? Is a revamp worth it without some form of proper moderation or rule changes to keep up with the times? A revamp needs a full-scale reworking not just a cosmetic change.

So, yeah, the mods not doing their job and people who clearly come off more as trolls than anything killed the forum. Should've been policed better here Guest. Simple and understandable. Even with the the forum not being able to ban people permanently just deleting comments is sufficient enough. It's not even about censorship it's about being logical. Logical.