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Then and now
May 31, 2017
9:24 am
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In the early spring of 1994 my life was changed forever. I was only 9 at the time.raised in the small town of sturgis in southwest michigan.i was a straight A student ,i played sports,i was  popular ,i was defender of the weak n helpless and I would torment  the bullies.ide pull Thier ho cards and show em how sick we can get wit it. Not just punk em out , I mean physically and mentally break Thier will to be. Then I heard Beverly kills 50187.tha stalker . I was in love instantly. Who is this? I gotta have more. About 1 week later the ringmaster dropped. It was the first item I had ever plucked from a store. The forks up and down And the badass ringmaster all black and gold said aloud to me “I am yours take me” and I did too, to the extent that I picked the album up and just walked out with it in my hand with the big plastic anti theft shit still attached alarms going g off and store worker saying “stop , hold it right Thier kid”I stopped dead in my tracks,turned around d and looked the man (prolly 30 years my elder) in his eye and said “I will fucking kill you here today for this cd” turned back around and walked out.dude didn’t say shit again. I played the ringmaster in my walk man untill the laser burned holes through it.rewind. before there was holes in it i turned my posse onto it. I didn’t know you could be a ghetto hard street thug at 10 years old but that’s just what we where. Knifes, log chains, clubs, homemade maces , tazers ,pepper spray.we where strapped. At this age (9-12 was the age range of our crew then)we only had bicycles (all gts and dynos maybe a diamond back or two) that we had no doubt stole off some punk ass Ritchie’s.no my town.Sturgis is small but we are stategically located 2n half hours from Detroit,Indianapolis,Chicago and grand rapids. Excellent place to meet up. If you know about Michigan in the 90s we coined the phrase “gangsters paradise” we go to adult prisons at 16 in the mitt. They had the fucking gram to life law in effect at the time and coca was erywhere. I said fuck school in the 6th grade and dropped out as did most of the real mafuckers. I could no longer stand people happy people especially. Murder was on my mind all the time so was suicide. By now riddlebox has dropped tunnel of love , the terror wheel and milenko is right around the corner.96-97 era . Now erybody in our community knows who we are , we tagging shit up erywhere. Crew has dropped to about 4 down ass ninjas ride or die. Guess everybody else was faking the funk or didn’t like the beating received from their parents…idk didn’t care fuck em .now we jacking four wheelers and dirt bikes , lifted a few cars just to drive close to home and crash that bitch lol lost the chains and clubs and started packing real heat . Our first was a .22 Cal rifle we sawed the stock off and made pistol grip, then a 9mm bereta and a Benelli 12 gauge tactical compliments of the local police force. Homade pipebombs and molotovs and guns was our tools now. We had motorized transportation and an arsenal what’s next? Drugs a fucking lot of drugs.coke,meth,acid,weed, and i don’t mean a fucking lil 8th. We was kids rolling around d with backpacks full.50lbs of smoke quarter key blow and ice and 100 hits blotter at a time usually resupply weekly. My father who was the king of s.w. mi and north Indiana was still in prison(he was raided in 93 before this all began) but me having his same name and the notiriety of who pops was even the old heads stayed out our way. Arsens ,explosions,car bombs, mayhem city wide .still icp was life. And back then it was WOoT woot not this fucking whoop shit.at 13 I took some kids my age hostage for some shit I heard they’d been talking on one of my homies.well 1 escaped and got free so the law comes ends up juvi won’t be no good cause I am apparently crazy . I spend the next year in mental hospitals.i get out and reunite with my posse. All’s good they couldn’t break me . My ol Man comes home from his 7 year stay in the big house.erybody tells him what’s been happening.my sister who is 15 now with a 1 year old baby..the daddy is one of my suppliers he’s 19. He sitting in jail on some theft and drug charges.1 by 1 everybody starts dying. Being murdered rather. Even ron in county got put down.every adult we fucked with disappeared. Pops called in a order from the West coast.in a month time pops had him a 250k bank roll. (My daddy had a million cash at 17. ) The 250k set the tables back in line .paid off murder debts,greased pockets, u know? Shorlty before this Sami the bull rolled on big John gotti 96-97. And alot of others.no my pops was a power lifter since his teens I’ve seen him punch people eyes out of Thier heads on more than one occasion. (He would say I don’t work out to look big,I work out so when I hit people I break their bones) :) part of the price for him calling in these favors and touching so many lives at once was the relinquishment of his position as drug lord ofs.w. mi and further more was asked to leave state cause you k ow everyone knows someone and people talk and want revenge took. So under the advice of the Israeli millionaire mobsters pops left mi for Tenn I came with him. A new life no more drugs and violence. My dad got a job for the first time in his life he was 37 years old. Me I set about creating another crew, based off the hatchet. And I did .I schooled these Southerners on some northern wicked shit. Turned em on the the drugs. Dad tried his best to save me then but I was gone. I was judicated at 16 a legal adult left home started trapping . Selling crack out the jects fucking single dope whore mom’s . Everywhere I went and go ide spread the message of the hatchet. I berthed a generation of ninjas. I’ve ripped shirts off people In malls and schools. I’ve put life sentences over my head in the name of psychopathic. Now I am almost 33 years old .of all the 50+ people I’ve put on since 94 one of the original kids from mi. And 3 down killas in TN is all that remains. The rest are serving life sentences and the majority are dead murdered, suicide or overdosed. I still stand by psychopathic .I am a product of Icps mental warp. Ivestood tall back to the wall ready to take on the world for the hatchet. Then something changed. The 6 didn’t end in an explosion that killed us all. They fake lamed me a funk I waited 20 years for.i cried during the unveiling,tricked betrayed lied too. But I picked it up and stood strong. I can’t anymore. 2 dope is still the fresh ass mafucking too dope ass dude he always was but j has changed. Family and love softened his wicked heart. Money maybe. Wiz of hood dope. Classic j story telling. His new shit wtf? I will come find you Mr .Bruce . Remember the past .remember where u came from. Don’t bitch at Otis for fucking ya niece , if that ain’t a juggalo move on young wicked part I don’t know ow what one is.and hatchet gear has flopped mafuckers have got me 3-4 times now. Fucked my shit up.back in the day they’d send ya free shit with your order .diff shit for diff amounts. Greedy ass mafucking money killed the dream. I will always love icp and psychopathic but we must correct those we love. Ramblings of a mad man I guess. I love u too rob.ery ody else on the label now can eat a big fat bag full of dicks. 

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Miklo Velka
May 31, 2017
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I understand where you’re coming from, but if your story is true… (The only thing that honestly makes me question it, is the million dollars thing, cuz if he had that money, then you wouldn’t be able to call anyone a “ritchie”.) But, my brothers dad sold shit too, and he didn’t even pay child support, and we found a bag of like 14g’s in the backseat one day, so I suppose it’s really not THAT unbelievable. (especially cuz back then you could get the anarchists cookbook online, I knew a few non juggalos that had it) The problem is, ICP wasn’t doing shit anymore. They left their little crime bullshit, and started rapping. There are more than enough gangs that you could’ve joined, which sounds like you were emulating your father, we all do in one way or another.  But the fact is, ICP was complaining about the state of society. Beverly kills was my first cassette as well, but had you picked up a Tupac/ Biggie album, you would be reppin that as your influence for your lifestyle and would be claimin blood or crip. You were too young to be influenced by such fucked up things. Your mind wasn’t able to see the nuances between sarcasm, complaining, acting, all kinds of stuff that only comes with life experience, hence the movie and music ratings, G- PG- R etc…. Like when kids do wrestling moves, and hurt or kill their friends, or siblings, not knowing that the shit is fake, nobody is TRYING to hurt each other, or there’d be no more wrestling, everyone would be dead or injured. It’s the same thing with certain movies, they create this mirror effect on the people in the public that kind of hypnotizes you into believing something about life, or yourself. Like, there was this book back in the 1600s or some shit like that, where a ton of people killed themselves after reading it. Or when there was that radio reading of “War of the worlds” and people flipped the fuck out, not knowing that it was being acted out for radio, cuz they missed the intro, and thought it was real a news broadcast. The point is, the truest point that I think ICP has attempted to portray, is that they wouldn’t be fucked up people, if they didn’t come from fucked up situations. We are products of our environment, even if that product is one of rebellion. One can rebel from bad, just as similarly as one can rebel from good.  If you do not feel sadness when thinking about all of your dead homies, and homies in jail, then you don’t understand that while you sought destruction, people were simply playin a gimmick no different than any other rappers of the time. But they were trying to be slick, and mix the insanity of Macho Man, and other wrestling gimmicks to create their own theme. These kids, Joe and Rob Bruce, played dungeons and dragons, they were little nerds, and their “gang” sucked. Their story, in it’s BEST light, is one of perseverance and believing in themselves to create a career, and take care of their actual family, like J bought his mom a house, what kinda evil clown does that? They aren’t running around killing people and destroying shit, cuz for real, they just aren’t smart enough to get a way with it. To me, since I have schizophrenia, cuz the music actually talks to me, like, literally, check the name….. I thought I was getting messages from them as well, but then I realized that other people do it, too. Like, people who do music, and art and stuff like that, tap into their subconscious, and these things that come up, people can relate to it, but if done properly, it’s more for self discovery, and personal growth. IF you don’t believe that, do your own music, and allow yourself to analyze WHY you feel the way you do. I bet a lot of it stems from not having any hope or faith in God or humanity, two things that in a weird way, ICP actually helped me see. I would have felt the same way you and many other people do after the Wraith Shangri La, had I not MET GOD, a few months before the album came out….. so to me, THAT blew my fucking mind. Now, if you’re cool, and realize that yes, I am a schizophrenic, then I will let you hear my new album, that I haven’t posted on faygoluvers yet, I was trying to see if I should or not, and your comment here is kind of swaying me to go ahead and share it. Cuz no offense, but your life doesn’t sound fun. And when you hear The Crazed Haven, the self titled “song” on the album, play it order for fun, but if you don’t like the rest of the music, at least listen to that, and give me you honest opinion. Because I knew a lot of people like you that didn’t listen to ICP, they couldn’t blame music for their actions, they knew where the shit came from, it came from their environment. And mental illness is now over 40 million people in America…… that’s more of a clue to the pathogen that is American community decay, than gangster, or trippy music… I will pray for your health and happiness. For real, I’ll pay you 10 bucks to review my album if you give me a paypal account email that works . I’m for real. Post A full review, right here in the comment section, and on my name, I will pay you for your interpretation of MY music. Just post the review, and your paypal info, and I’ll respond. Listen to it all, in order, for the full effect, if any, then I can gauge how other people that see things the way you do, will react….. The Raven.      https://www.mediafire.com/?78434ug055i3et0

May 31, 2017
1:16 pm
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If you know the dope game it’s easy come easy go. There’s more to the story as with all stories… I didn’t actually meet my dad as I can remember untill I was 5 years old. when I was 7 he went to prison till I was 14-15. But yea them 2 years he was Thier I wouldn’t say I was a Ritchie, my dad’s money stayed tied up in drugs. I mean pops had a house on a private lake with a helicopter pad on the dock n shit but it was all business. By the time I realized what the fuck money was he was rotting in a cell. Ma was a whore. There was 5 of us kids. 3 fr my dad and 2 from another. But from the age of 10 my older sister and me took care of our younger siblings, I wouldn’t see ma for months at a time. Or she’d show up freshly beat by some dude.its not in my being to play a victim . I’ve done what I thought was necessary at times in my life. And as a minor and even a young adult I just figured fuck it , I’ma get mine. Ma is Italian immigrant came here from Italy when she was 16 couldn’t even speak English when she met my dad. Dad’s side is German. Lol I domt need your money homie. I changed my life at 28. I make solid funds now working at power plants. I’ll listen and review.for ya.i use to rap. Small town clown’s. Under name murdacide. I too have met god. Not the one that was forced on us either. The true God .it was fun tho. I wish I wouldn’t have hurt somany along my path,but like you said it was the nature of my environment and the lifestyle in which I chose didn’t leave room for weakness. I too read behind the paint and played dnd as a kid. But no I worshipped the music like it was made for me, Twiztid still be dropping songs like the plucked the lyrics straight from my mind. When someone speaks the exact way you feel you can’t help but relate.

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May 31, 2017
1:29 pm
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Illrickdaclown said
  hatchet gear has flopped mafuckers have got me 3-4 times now. Fucked my shit up.back in the day they’d send ya free shit with your order .diff shit for diff amounts. Greedy ass mafucking money killed the dream.

Yup, I used to love discovering free shit with my Hatchetgear, even got a free shirt with a cd once. Those were dem days…..

I think things went south when USPS stopped handling their shipping. Even with a sale now the shipping rates make it a ripoff.

 

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May 31, 2017
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without the copter pad and shit, my life was pretty similar, except I actually lived in Detroit, my father was murdered at Hart Plaza… so Bizarre/ Bizaar is when things started getting weird on me. But yeah, without people understanding these kinds of things, it’s easy to go all evil and be like, fuck everything and everyone, so after I met God, talked to Him for 3 hours, walked through heaven, shit was mind boggling…. after all that, is when Shangri La came out. And it changed my perception of everything. Years later, I met Jesus. like, clouds appeared and he straight popped out and spoke. So, with your story, as I have been sitting here praying on whether or not to release the album on faygoluvers…. it kinda sparked in my mind, the point of the album, which is, essentially, remembering how it all started, and ICP didn’t start the wicked shit… that shit’s been around for thousands of years. I mean, listen to nursery rhymes, some of that shit is wicked as fuck. I’m glad that you’re doing good now. I hate seeing people succumb to shit, and I think that’s where this Juggalo music reaches, like a net before you drop too low…. If you’re good on the money tip, then absolutely I’d love to hear your thoughts, cuz I don’t want to put out wack shit, or things that don’t mean anything…. let me know.

May 31, 2017
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Miklo Velka said

Illrickdaclown said
  hatchet gear has flopped mafuckers have got me 3-4 times now. Fucked my shit up.back in the day they’d send ya free shit with your order .diff shit for diff amounts. Greedy ass mafucking money killed the dream.

Yup, I used to love discovering free shit with my Hatchetgear, even got a free shirt with a cd once. Those were dem days…..

I think things went south when USPS stopped handling their shipping. Even with a sale now the shipping rates make it a ripoff.

 

cig  

Dude I recently ordered a gang of shit…couple shirts, 20th anniversary riddlebox 20 years of hallowicked new 2 dope. Ordered this shit like 2 months ago. Only fucking option for shipping is like 16.99 3 day priority. The 2 dope album wouldn’t drop for nother month n half. Straight robbing people. I call up to Livonia cause when I ordered it gives me no confirmation shit all I got is the statement from my bank where they charged me 90 odd bucks dick head on the line says cause the 2 dope is preorder it’ll all ship together so y the fuck they charging 3 day shipping rates on shit won’t ship for 2 months. Then I get my shit and the only shit that right is the CDs. The new 2 dope shirt some cock sucker in the warehouse spilt bleach on looks like and the xxx tunnel of love shirt is Xtra Xtra large when on my shit clearly says large. I know if I go up there I’ll be on the news tho. I got problems with japping out in public on people. Some form of anxiety disorder I guess , when I become upset I hurt whatever’s upsetting me,basic human instinct I presume.so fuck it I’ll rock the big ass shirt and the bleach splattered one. Thanks again hatchet gear your shittyness and poor service will never see another dime of mine. 

May 31, 2017
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this is some deep shit fam. i appreciate the honesty from you guys. life aint easy but at least we got the FAMILY!  its only reason i got through many hard times myself. i do agree tho that MOST real ass ninjas are gone or at least completely cut themselves off from all other juggalos. which i can understand to certain point especially if you’re trying to raise a family of your own and shit. but Juggalos are such a rare breed of humans that could not have existed in any other time in history. i feel like we would still be here without the hatchet BUT its the only way we have been able to recognize and cope with our curse. we are the worlds unwanted shit, but i wouldn’t have it any other way. Couldnt be more proud of how many of us have made it through the circumstances of what made us this way and how many of us have God in our lives. beautiful. just had to add my 2 cents and my 2 whoops.

 

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May 31, 2017
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In case you didn’t know about private messages, like I didn’t I will post the youtube version of the album here…. any thoughts (besides sound quality) lol, will be appreciated.

1           manipulatin me
2           real schizophrenic
3            myself
3a skit t=43s
4            birth from the dirt
5            anomonopeia
            takers
            focus
7a skit
             make me
             the crazed haven

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