juggalos4life said
Ok fam, I am going to get serious and comment about the Juggalo March. I really want you to read this. Regardless of your support for it or not, it will make an impact regardless. I have some issues with it though and it is something that can’t be helped, it is what it is. I am going to outline my points in a numbered format, so people can browse through the points and see what they think.
1. People don’t know what a Juggalo is:

More than you think do. Either way, it would be your job to inform them. They’ll probably not care or think it’s stupid.

2. People hate clowns:

This is fucking stupid. They don’t panic at concerts. They don’t panic when the fucking KKK marches.

3. That brings me to the face paint:

You really think clown paint is the most radical thing people have seen marching down that street? You’re completely doing the exact opposite of giving the middle finger in J’s self indulgent middle finger freedom of speech parade by bowing down to social norms with the act of not painting your face like a juggalo.

4. Juggalos are unpredictable:

They are pretty predictable. I don’t think juggalos are going to act like lunatics. If juggalos are this bad then perhaps they should be on some kind of list. Ever think of that? If juggalos are so bad that other juggalos fear their unpredictability that should be a red flag to a lot of people. But this is a farce. The only time juggalos really act all crazy is at the gathering. This is not the gathering. And I call bullshit on your “whoop whoop” story.

5. People will think we are marching against Trump:

First, that’s not a bad thing. People would be much more likely to rally behind juggalos if they think it’ll help on the war on Trump. Second, no they won’t. Not if you make the intent clear.

6. This isn’t the Gathering:

No shit? Is this even a seprate point from number 4? You could lump this point with the un predictable point and you could lump the face paint point with the clown point. It’s like you actively worked to fluff your story up and pretend you have more points. Either way, I’m sure every juggalo going knows this and will treat it as such.

7. Which leads me to this: There will be riots and arrests:

So you are just fluffing it up. No. Juggalos will not act silly and riot. And cops are not going to harass juggalos. How do I know? Because cops hardly harass juggalos at the gathering where they do act crazy.

8. This could possibly make Juggalos more of a threat and this March could cause more damage to our name:

This could also be lumped with unpredictable, riots and this isn’t the gathering.

9. The media will be there so it will be ok:

I’ve failed to see a media piece on ICP vs FBI that attempts to make juggalos look like a gang. Especially since the ACLU would be involved. If they spin it to be anything, it’d be spun for political reasons rather than demonizing juggalos.

11. Which leads me to us being greeted by Washington’s finest:
Ok, so since this March has been publicized greatly and for sure D.C. knows about it, all Juggalos will be greeted by a wall of police on the day of the actual March. If you think a sea of Juggalos would just show up to an empty capital then you are sooooooo wrong. As soon as we get there, there will be a whole squad waiting for us and greeting us coldly.  

No. Cops are not going to do that. The only places that garner this much fear are more backwoods conservative areas. Washington is fairly liberal and has dealt with marches from much more radical groups with out incident before. Why hasn’t there been a riot squad at a gathering?

The worst that could happen is that the fuck you to the FBI parade will further a resentment between law and juggalos rather than start an actual dialogue. ICP says it’s a middle finger because they are victims but failed to analyze the situation and acknowledge how juggalos got there in the first place. They are not doing it to pick on juggalos, that’s delusional and they didn’t do it to censor people’s individuality because let’s face it, juggalos are just as sheepishly cultured as goths, punk rockers and any other anti culture out there. It’s a reaction to a culture that harbors a lot of violent gang like activity in the name of the culture.

The best that could happen is that the media takes notice and public perceptions give a small push towards the right direction.

What will probably happen is there will be a march, a free concert, media coverage, everybody will pat themselves on the back, pull off a cool freeze frame 80s teamwork high five, and it’ll all be forgotten by the rest of the world in a month or two and nothing will change to take us off any list. Then a bunch of elitist memes about “Where were you when we marched?” shit and you know.

No one is gonna get maced. There are protests and marches in dc all the time. The police there are used to it. Unless juggalos act like asses, nothing will go down. 

The last thing the police want is a riot and there would be a riot if they provoke one. It is in their best interest for the match to go beyond peacefully. 

The media probably won’t actually be there. Its going to be small compared to other marches. No one cares about small protests. 

No one is scared of face paint. Watch any nfl game. 

Stop being paranoid.

They do that almost everywhere. Not many people want to risk their liquor licence by selling to someone they can’t properly identify. A driver licence plus a painted face is not exactly foolproof. Many states and municipalities have laws on the books about this. More places than not it is illegal to be in a liquor store with a mask or facepaint on. It’s common sense. 

scruffy said

King Lucem Ferre said
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Why hasn’t there been a riot squad at a gathering?    

uh, to be fair, there has.  

it was fun.  for me.  for others, a lot less fun.    

Lol Peoria, Peoria.

My wife and brother and I left to find the local place to take our first and only shower, since we were sleeping in our car and had no hotel. We come back and the riot squad is there.

I rememebr feeling like a parent.. “I leave you fuckers alone for ONE HOUR!”

The show went on, but the riot squad was in the parking lot at the end of the last night. I was tripping hard on DXM and was joking a bit too much with one guy. After my final joke didn’t fly well, about 3 of them advanced on me slowly, so I backed away, got in the car and my wife drove us home.