iLLtheClown said
GREED! It makes the world go round. Without it there's no driving force or competition.

holy butt fucking porcupines batman! something i agree with you about!

but i would say money makes the world go around adn greed is the driving force.

LTB said
i'd say greed, money wasnt always around. We just want more and more. Money just gave us a standard to get more by other than beating up everyone else.

Id prolli go insofar as to say currency in general, yes money hasnt always existed but currency in some form has (Salt, food, water, gold, cocoa etc) through the ages.

LTB said
Well played sir

Well think about it. without a currency (something to hoarde so you have more of it the the guy next to you) how can there be greed?

Slumerican502 said
I disagree with all of you. Power/control is the driving force behind all the evil in the world. We all yearn for significance. Some of us want to be respected and others just want to be feared

How machiavilian of you.   Im sure youve read "the prince" but this is my favorite part from it.  ripped from sparknotes to be easier to truncate...

Machiavelli acknowledges that a prince who honors his word is generally praised by others. But historical experience demonstrates that princes achieve the most success when they are crafty, cunning, and able to trick others. There are two ways of fighting: by law or by force. Laws come naturally to men, force comes naturally to beasts. In order to succeed, the prince must learn how to fight both with laws and with force—he must become half man and half beast.

When a prince uses force, he acts like a beast. He must learn to act like two types of beasts: lions and foxes. A fox is defenseless against wolves; a lion is defenseless against traps. A prince must learn to act like both the fox and the lion: he must learn, like the fox, how to frighten off wolves and, like the lion, how to recognize the traps. In dealing with people, a prince must break his promises when they put him at a disadvantage and when the reasons for which he made the promises no longer exist. In any case, promises are never something on which a prince can rely, since men are by nature wretched and deceitful. A prince should be a master of deception.

However, a prince must be careful to exude a virtuous aura that belies his deceitful mind. Pope Alexander VI was one ruler who excelled at this art. A prince should present the appearance of being a compassionate, trustworthy, kind, guileless, and pious ruler. Of course, actually possessing all these virtues is neither possible nor desirable. But so long as a prince appears to act virtuously, most men will believe in his virtue. If the populace believes the prince to be virtuous, it will be easier for him to maintain his state. Moreover, men will judge their prince solely on appearance and results. Thus, it doesn’t matter to the people that a prince may occasionally employ evil to achieve his goal. So long as a prince appears virtuous and is successful in running the state, he will be regarded as virtuous.

The conversations we've been having these days....suck it everyone who calls all juggalos ignorant! I've had an exceptional vocabulary my whole lie and im picking shit up on here.